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highplainsdem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:46 AM
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Oil exploration under Arctic ice could cause 'uncontrollable' natural disaster
Source: The Independent

Oil from an undersea leak will not only be very hard to deal with in Arctic conditions, it will interact with the surface sea ice and become absorbed in it, and will be transported by it for as much as 1,000 miles across the ocean, according to Peter Wadhams, Professor of ocean physics at the University of Cambridge.

The interaction, discovered in large-scale experiments 30 years ago, means that the Arctic oil rush, which was given a huge boost last week with a $3.2 billion (£1.9bn) investment from Exxon Mobil, is likely to be the riskiest form of oil exploration ever undertaken, said Professor Wadhams, who is a former director of Cambridge's Scott Polar Research Institute.

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"The oil is caught underneath the ice, so you can't get at immediately to clean it up or burn it off. You don't know exactly where it is, and then it gets encapsulated in the new ice which grows underneath, so you then have a kind of oil sandwich inside the pack ice.

"And that's being transported around the Arctic and isn't released until spring, when it may be several hundred or even a thousand miles from the source of the spill, so you can have a huge area of the Arctic becoming polluted by oil without initially it being clear where that oil is."

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Read more: http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/oil-exploration-under-arctic-ice-could-cause-uncontrollable-natural-disaster-2349788.html



The article mentions the other risks of going after the oil in the Arctic -- "ice encroachment, the remoteness of the Arctic, darkness, extreme weather, deep water, high seas, freezing conditions and icebergs" -- but the most worrisome information here is about how the oil will interact with ice, and this information is based on a study done off the coast of Canada in the 1970s.

Not only would spilled oil be trapped in the ice and transported vast distances by it, but when it thaws it will be still be fresh oil because the ice will have kept it from weathering. And Professor Wadhams points out it will be released on the edges of pack ice, where migratory birds feed.
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:54 AM
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1. President Carter tried to avert things like this. They call him one of the
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 12:56 AM by No Elephants
worst Presidents ever.

Reagan, who dismantled everything Carter tried to do as soon as the price of oil went down, makes almost everyone's list of best Presidents ever, including Obama's and Hillary's.

Go figure.
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Lorien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:33 AM
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5. Reagan is on the "worst" list of nearly everyone worth listening to
and Carter was pretty decent compared to what we've had since then. But this issue is WAY bigger than partisan politics.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 04:28 AM
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12. Carter is the ONLY decent president since JFK,
in my opinion.
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slay Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:55 AM
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2. Humans are an uncontrollable natural disaster
these days.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:00 AM
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3. Yes.
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LAGC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 02:24 AM
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8. Amen to that.
We're our own worst enemy, and will likely do ourselves in long before nature decides to finally wipe us out.
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ixion Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 04:29 AM
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13. As Agent Smith said: We're a virus.
:(
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 04:23 PM
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21. It's my absolute favorite scene from "The Matrix"
:-)
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Delphinus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:58 PM
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23. Boy,
isn't *that* the truth!
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 06:48 AM
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25. Very true ...
... a frighteningly powerful & destructive one at that ...

:-(
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 05:45 PM
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22. Greed is an uncontrollable disaster to nature, these days.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 01:10 AM
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4. They'll do it anyway.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 02:09 AM
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6. Something about capitalism that makes people and politicians do really stupid things -- !!
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 02:11 AM
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7. Greed.
nt
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Golden Raisin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 02:39 AM
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9. Unfettered capitalism
plus Military/Industrial Complex with a big dash of Ayn Rand Republicanism thrown in will ultimately destroy this planet.
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BeHereNow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 03:31 AM
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10. What ever... no?
Edited on Tue Sep-06-11 03:37 AM by BeHereNow
As I have said before:
We are the only species on the planet that shits
in our own nest.
To our own detriment.
BHN:popcorn: :popcorn:
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 04:23 AM
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11. Well, if we need uncontrollable disasters to finally put the neaderthal rethugs' collective noses in
the corner, permanently, so be it. I've always said, and have never been quoted, but you can start if you want... we should have killed the neanderthals off when it was still legal. Look. We're smart enough to clean up the mess they create no matter how bad it is. Just let them loose and carefully steer them around until they wreck every avenue of exploitation that's left, and we'll use the prescribed burns to serotinously trigger our fellow Dems into action.
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DetlefK Donating Member (449 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 06:28 AM
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14. Ain't see a problem with that.
It is very easy:
If you want to drill in the Arctic, then you have to sign the following clauses:
1. The 20 top-ranking members of the company are fully responsible for any damages that might occur in case of an oil-spill, regardless of fault.
2. If any oil-spill-related damages have to be paid, the money has to be deduced from the private assets of the 20 top-ranking members of the company first. As soon as each of those natural persons possesses less than $100,000, the rest of the payments may be deduced from company assets.
3. In case of an oil-spill, the company will be liable for 100% of any related industrial and economic damages.
4. In case of an oil-spill, the company will be liable for 100% of the costs of the cleanup of any related environmental damages.
5. In case of an oil-spill, the company will be liable for 100% of the healthcare costs of any related health problems.
6. The company hereby agrees, that the US government is in no way bound to assist, directly or indirectly, the company or any of its members (natural or corporational) financially in case of an oil-spill.
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durablend Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 06:30 AM
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15. Forget it
A Republican president would just void and nullify that (that's assuming SCOTUS didn't kill it first)
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digitaln3rd Donating Member (533 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 07:06 AM
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16. Thank goodness we have a president that stands by the EPA though.
Oh, wait....
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:04 AM
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17. Not to worry
They are planning to melt it all first.
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certainot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 08:11 AM
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18. one of the 'advantages' of global warming denial is the melting will allow accessibility and
the emergencies will 'necessitate' centralized 'solutions' to divert trillions for nukes, etc, to the plutocrats.
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 12:19 PM
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19. Kicked and recommended.
Thanks for the thread, highplainsdem.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 04:21 PM
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20. Nobody could have foreseen this environmental catastrophy....
:argh:
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Sep-06-11 09:58 PM
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24. There needs to be a global BAN on oil exploration
I know it won't happen, but it's still something that would be nice to see. I don't care if there are a zillion barrels of oil under the Arctic and other sensitive places, enough to last another 1000 years. The damage we're doing to the planet is irreparable. We have the technology and the means to move beyond fossil fuels. Yet as long as we keep sucking oil from the ground, there will never be any incentive to do so.
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Spacemom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Sep-07-11 07:23 AM
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26. Why does this remind me of
a junkie willing to do absolutely anything to get their next fix?

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