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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:28 AM Original message |
London riots: 'People are fighting back. It's their neighbourhoods at stake' |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:32 AM Response to Original message |
1. I adore the British. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:56 AM Response to Original message |
2. The courts are keeping those arrested off the streets too |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:59 AM Response to Reply #2 |
17. You can be held 28 days in the UK without being charged. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:42 AM Response to Reply #17 |
21. The ones at the Magistrates |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:56 AM Response to Reply #21 |
51. Are you in London Dipsey? I can't believe it's already 800 people |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
25. Only two days in the USA? |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
3. Getting the police to support these community leaders is essential. |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:18 AM Response to Reply #3 |
85. You are missing the point |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:22 AM Response to Original message |
4. Just seen the Eltham clip on BBC |
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Turborama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:49 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. I saw that. The locals outside the bus wanted a piece of them. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:56 AM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Quite amazing |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:00 AM Response to Reply #4 |
18. I know it's kinda ironic, but it's serious, this is race war shit here. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:34 AM Response to Reply #18 |
19. I've seen no signs of that Josh |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:00 AM Response to Reply #19 |
27. Respectfully, the bit about a white community in this OP alone sounds like a racial element. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:19 AM Response to Reply #27 |
34. most of the arrests have been white. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:41 AM Response to Reply #34 |
37. I will take your word for that, but that does not prove race played no part in these riots. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:18 AM Response to Reply #18 |
33. look at the people in the streets & the arrests. mostly white. i wonder why you say that. |
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BooScout (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 02:27 AM Response to Reply #18 |
84. No actually it's not.... |
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Ex Lurker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:41 AM Response to Original message |
5. The Londoners organizing to defend themselves |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:57 AM Response to Reply #5 |
8. Yes - odd that |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:38 AM Response to Reply #5 |
20. Unbelievable that. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:26 AM Response to Reply #20 |
29. DUers have been condoning violence? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:45 AM Response to Reply #29 |
46. I am shocked, shocked to find out.... |
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parkia00 (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #20 |
41. There are always some twats! |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:03 PM Response to Reply #5 |
66. Yes, "Londoners" like the fascist English Defense League. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:06 AM Response to Original message |
9. YouGov poll |
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MrDiaz (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:33 AM Response to Reply #9 |
10. i thought guns were illegal |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:38 AM Response to Reply #10 |
11. They are illegal in UK |
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MrDiaz (365 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:51 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. So you mean |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:58 AM Response to Reply #12 |
14. Does however severely decrease the number in circulation |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:39 AM Response to Reply #12 |
30. BS is bad enough, but bs that is both dead tired and lame should really be saved for another board. |
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left on green only (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
67. Thank You For Being Such A Patient And Tollerant Contributor To |
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parkia00 (401 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:10 AM Response to Reply #12 |
40. WTF! |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:33 AM Response to Reply #40 |
44. Thank you. |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #40 |
47. Yes, that seems to be working out well for the criminals... |
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hack89 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:01 AM Response to Reply #10 |
28. Because criminals ignore gun laws? nt |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 05:57 AM Response to Original message |
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joshcryer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 06:57 AM Response to Original message |
16. And the riots are tetering on a race war, now. Fun times. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:20 AM Response to Reply #16 |
35. boy, you're really pushing that line. interesting. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:53 AM Response to Original message |
22. ""This is a white working-class area and we are here to protect our community," said one man." |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:55 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. Which community was that ? |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:48 PM Response to Reply #23 |
64. Eltham. Here's the rest of that story: Nazis. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:50 PM Response to Reply #64 |
70. You may find they were just claiming that to getting in on the act |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #70 |
71. The English Defense League isn't a football club. |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:18 PM Response to Reply #71 |
72. Don't be ridiculous - I didn't say it was. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #72 |
73. i don't see your point, then. As the EDL's own website talks about how it's |
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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:28 PM Response to Reply #73 |
76. They are capitalising on a situation |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:10 PM Response to Reply #76 |
82. of course they're capitalizing on a situation. that's my point. i'm |
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robcon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:56 AM Response to Original message |
24. It's hooligans, not social grievances, driving the riots. |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 08:59 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. Yep. It's the point people are trying to make to the defenders. |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #24 |
60. Well, glad that's settled! |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
31. The hate-on here for marginalized youth is disturbing |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:25 AM Response to Reply #31 |
36. Does your bright London blogger have any evidence for his claims? |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
38. You want "facts"? |
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PavePusher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:52 AM Response to Reply #38 |
49. If the targets were government buildings and offices, then there would be an arguable point. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
54. These youth are not political strategists |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:27 PM Response to Reply #54 |
62. Your argument is that they are mindless automatons? |
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tama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 03:29 AM Response to Reply #36 |
86. Feelings are facts |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:14 AM Response to Reply #31 |
42. The lust to defend thieves & vandals around here is disturbing |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:38 AM Response to Reply #42 |
45. You've got it exactly right. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #45 |
52. Peaceful marches are easily ignored |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:54 AM Response to Reply #42 |
50. The status quo thanks you for your support |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:21 PM Response to Reply #50 |
55. It must be nice to live in a binary world like yours ... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:31 PM Response to Reply #55 |
58. You are incorrect |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:35 PM Response to Reply #58 |
63. Yeah right maybe those American youth will get off mom and dads couch |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:59 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. U shld know U have a bad case of "get off my lawn" syndrome /nt /nt |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 03:40 PM Response to Reply #65 |
74. That's an assumption. It doesn't hold any water. |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:29 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. There is sometimes a time to fight and there are somethings |
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chrisa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:20 PM Response to Reply #42 |
69. Finally someone from England came in to set the record straight. |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Aug-11-11 07:07 AM Response to Reply #69 |
87. You've got that right! |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:25 PM Original message |
+1 |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
32. Hyannisport Broadcaster: |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:52 AM Response to Original message |
39. How long with this MSM/DU hate campaign last? |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:49 AM Response to Reply #39 |
48. As long as people like yourself defend the actions of hoodlums. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:01 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Trying to understand someone is different than "defending" them |
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Nihil (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:25 PM Response to Reply #53 |
56. Sometimes a criminal really is just a criminal ... |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #56 |
59. Sometimes, yes, but these riots have context and meaning |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 04:23 PM Response to Reply #53 |
75. Believe me I'm far from right wing. Hell I wanted Kucinich for prez. |
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Bragi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #75 |
77. I didn't mean to imply you are right wing |
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go west young man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:18 PM Response to Reply #77 |
83. Thanks for the clarification. |
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Scurrilous (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
43. K & R |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 01:26 PM Response to Original message |
61. Personalities, players and profiles aside -- it's civil unrest |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 02:19 PM Response to Original message |
68. "This is a WHITE working-class area and we are here to protect our community," |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 09:59 PM Response to Reply #68 |
78. Ummmm, I live in a white working class neighborhood and I can say |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:40 PM Response to Reply #78 |
79. The original catalyst for the riots was black people feeling like they were being mistreated by |
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kelly1mm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:52 PM Response to Reply #79 |
80. So what? If the same thing happens in the US with the same catalyst, |
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ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Aug-10-11 10:59 PM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Defend your stuff all you want; that is not my concern. |
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