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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:46 AM Original message |
Scare at State Fair: witnesses describe mobs, some people claim racially-charged attacks |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:53 AM Response to Original message |
1. If true, I see it as a symptom of what's going on generally. |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:57 AM Response to Reply #1 |
2. also I wonder if the number of police is down |
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oldbanjo (223 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
24. Crime got too bad and they had to hire them back. |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
70. Newark layed off 167 policemen. Gang members passed out t-shirts with the date |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 03:59 AM Response to Reply #70 |
77. dubious. |
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Chimichurri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 08:13 AM Response to Reply #77 |
82. A 71 percent increase in killings from a year prior when there were 167 more cops. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #82 |
87. i.e. 12 more murders. there is no reason to attribute it to lack of policing without |
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Lance_Boyle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:00 AM Response to Reply #1 |
4. Milwaukee has Juneteenth mob violence nearly every year, |
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no_hypocrisy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:11 AM Response to Reply #4 |
5. Not blame entirely, just a factor to be calculated. |
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pennylane100 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:21 AM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Agreed. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:57 AM Response to Original message |
3. Limbaugh is going to love this. |
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Rozlee (821 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:26 AM Response to Reply #3 |
7. FAUX will be lapping it up, too. |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:41 AM Response to Reply #3 |
13. My thoughts exactly. He must be beaming. nt |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:00 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. Yeah, but this actually happened. It's not as if this story's made up. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #19 |
78. i wouldn't be so sure it happened as reported. |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:05 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Yes he probably will use the story to promote his own agenda. But that doesn't make |
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Brother Buzz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:02 PM Response to Reply #3 |
44. Just wait for the Watts riot - Reagan connection |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
8. My first thought - the Koch brothers hired some thugs. |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:35 AM Response to Reply #8 |
10. Yep. If it's true. These stories always turn out to be bs of some kind. n/t |
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Patiod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:39 PM Response to Reply #10 |
41. Well, it's not bs here in Philly. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #41 |
51. what's causing it is psyops. |
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grasswire (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:36 AM Response to Reply #8 |
11. yeah, I always figured starting a race war would be their trump card. |
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oldhippydude (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #11 |
29. yep |
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valerief (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:42 AM Response to Reply #8 |
14. Sounds plausible, cuz that's what the mafia does. nt |
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Proletariatprincess (527 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:35 PM Response to Reply #8 |
26. Exactly... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:13 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Yes. This is really strange timing. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 04:05 AM Response to Reply #26 |
79. isn't there a recall election next week or something? |
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a simple pattern (426 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:39 PM Response to Reply #8 |
28. I agree 100% |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:08 PM Response to Reply #8 |
45. At some point blaming everything on the Koch brothers makes you look simple minded. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:59 PM Response to Reply #45 |
55. Well Chris - you clearly weren't involved in the Anti-War Movement or |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:38 PM Response to Reply #55 |
59. The tinfoil burns also. You really think the Koch bros paid black youths |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:45 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. All I said was it was the first thing that came to mind. |
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ChrisBorg (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:52 PM Response to Reply #63 |
65. That's more than a little cynical. It is approaching delusional, that's all I am saying. |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:54 PM Response to Reply #65 |
66. How old are you? |
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Kingofalldems (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:13 PM Response to Reply #59 |
68. Big fan of the Kochs? |
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Hassin Bin Sober (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 06:09 PM Response to Reply #68 |
71. Yep. Do a posts search. |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 04:14 AM Response to Reply #59 |
80. it means that the possibility is always worthy of consideration, however. |
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musette_sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 09:25 PM Response to Reply #55 |
73. + 1 |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #8 |
53. Provocateurs. Certainly wouldn't be the first time, would it? Who benefits? n/t |
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Evasporque (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:33 AM Response to Original message |
9. Creampuffs and Fisticuffs! |
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cheapdate (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
12. Obviously racial attacks by a bunch of teenage thugs. |
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Mojorabbit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:48 AM Response to Reply #12 |
15. When I was a young woman 30-40 years ago |
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cheapdate (197 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:07 PM Response to Reply #15 |
23. Don't get too cynical. |
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Stardust (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:26 PM Response to Reply #23 |
92. I'm so ready for that drum circle, etc. right now. |
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bitchkitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:23 PM Response to Reply #12 |
90. +1 |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:52 AM Response to Original message |
16. There's no defense for this. Sorry. |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:04 PM Response to Reply #16 |
21. Rage against oppressional and rationality usually do not go hand in hand |
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snipervictim (18 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:40 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. I think you might try being poor and oppressed first |
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RandomKoolzip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #30 |
40. You have no idea who you're talking to, "snipervictim." |
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mojowork_n (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Whatever really happened, it couldn't have been for "No Reason" |
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Supersedeas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:25 PM Response to Reply #36 |
52. that does provide some context |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
17. The source makes me doubt the validity of it. TMJ is a super right wing network. |
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joeglow3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Reporting seems pretty widespread |
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totodeinhere (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:02 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. The same thing is being reported by several news organizations, not just TMJ. |
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MessiahRp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 02:54 AM Response to Reply #17 |
76. Pretty good read pointing out TMJ's fear mongering on this story... |
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EC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:36 PM Response to Original message |
27. Things like this used to happen during Bush I years |
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Enrique (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #27 |
38. Clinton put a ton more cops on the streets |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:41 PM Response to Original message |
31. This explains why they had to put sandbags around Fox News today... |
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bobthedrummer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
32. K&R I was born and grewup in Milwaukee, the most physically racially segregated midwest city still |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:44 PM Response to Original message |
33. ...were not there for the MC Hammer concert," said the woman. |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:49 PM Response to Original message |
34. This "flash mob" of violence is happening all over the country. |
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4dsc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
35. Same thing happened at the Iowa state fair last year |
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BNJMN (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:07 PM Response to Original message |
37. Defending these thugs (because of the recession?) is disgusting. Google Dover Melee or ... |
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marasinghe (754 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
39. no excuse for picking on innocent passers-by. |
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jsamuel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
42. according to the cheif of state fair police, not racially motivated |
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bainz (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:15 PM Response to Reply #42 |
88. those fights were not racially motivated |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 02:24 PM Response to Original message |
43. Someone is trying to divert attention from what other right-wingers called a "throng" (60 people) |
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midnight (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 10:07 PM Response to Reply #43 |
74. I strongly suspected that too. |
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BeliQueen (433 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:09 PM Response to Original message |
46. There is no double standard |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:11 PM Response to Original message |
47. Looks to me like this was arranged to trigger a backlash |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:24 PM Response to Reply #47 |
50. Absolutely. It's not a fact-based story. It's crap. Exactly like the filth which caused a race riot |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:27 PM Response to Reply #50 |
54. +1 |
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DURHAM D (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:06 PM Response to Reply #50 |
56. OKC or Tulsa? nt |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:09 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. Thank you, that's right. People need to know about it. |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 11:48 PM Response to Reply #50 |
75. Thank you, Judi Lynn. It sounds either false or highly exaggerated. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:50 PM Response to Reply #47 |
64. The real story seems to be that a group of out-of-control juveniles engaged in petty |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 03:22 PM Response to Original message |
49. psy-ops. |
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mitsu (5 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:20 PM Response to Original message |
57. i am going to say hell with it and |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 09:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
72. So glad you took the time to write this. It does stick with the reader! |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:12 AM Response to Reply #57 |
85. Welcome to DU. Too few people recognize this long-established policy. |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:37 PM Response to Original message |
58. Wisconsin State Fair in West Allis tightens security after 24 arrested, 11 hurt on 1st day |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:39 PM Response to Original message |
60. Changes Announced After Wisconsin State Fair Fights |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:41 PM Response to Original message |
61. State Patrol called in, youth policy imposed after violence at State Fair |
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struggle4progress (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 04:44 PM Response to Original message |
62. State Fair Police Say Fights Inside Park Not Racially Motivated |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Aug-05-11 05:17 PM Response to Reply #62 |
69. There are some you just can't take anywhere! |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 04:31 AM Response to Reply #62 |
81. "huge groups" of 16 to 18 kids? throwing m&m's? urinating on cars? horrors. |
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Fastcars (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:08 AM Response to Reply #81 |
84. Sounds like..... |
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bainz (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:19 PM Response to Reply #62 |
89. inside his jurisdiction |
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indurancevile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:44 AM Response to Reply #89 |
94. the reports were of kids rampaging through the midway attacking people. inside his jurisdiction. |
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miyazaki (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 08:47 AM Response to Original message |
83. So its not the Kroch Bros.? Ha, some people. n/t |
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Hugabear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 11:24 AM Response to Original message |
86. Oh no, it's Scary Black People |
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bainz (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Aug-06-11 01:25 PM Response to Reply #86 |
91. Exactly |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Aug-07-11 12:03 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. I thought the same thing. |
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