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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:51 AM
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BBC: Amy Winehouse found dead, aged 27 (LINK)
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 11:54 AM by Poll_Blind
Source: BBC

Singer Amy Winehouse, 27, has been found dead at her home, the Press Association has reported.

Last month, the north Londoner pulled out of her European tour after she was jeered at her comeback gig in Serbia for appearing too drunk to perform.

For 90 minutes, she mumbled through parts of songs and at times left the stage - leaving her band to fill in.

The troubled singer had a long battle with drink and drugs which overshadowed her musical career in recent years.

Read more: www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-14262237



Haven't seen a linked story yet- found this on the Beeb.

:(

She didn't learn anything from Mr. Hathaway. What a tragic waste. Look at this before and after picture, before the drugs- she was beautiful. And her voice...



What a waste.

PB
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cantbeserious Donating Member (270 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:52 AM
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1. One Troubled Soul - RIP
eom
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:06 PM
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7. .
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:52 AM
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2. I guess I'm not surprised.....it was obvious this was going to happen if she didn't get help.

....... very sad.


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RebelOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:08 PM
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10. I am not surprised either. She was on a road to self-destruction. n/t
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Xithras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:13 PM
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13. She did get help. It's not yet confirmed if she went the way of Anna Nicole Smith or Cobain.
Winehouse has supposedly been clean and drug (though not alcohol) free for a couple of years now. She did NOT say no to rehab, and spent quite a bit of time cleaning herself up.

That said, she has also been diagnosed with some serious mental issues that go well beyond her drug use, and lots of people have theorized that ehr drug use was actually a way to self-medicate away her mental problems. Those mental problems aren't so easily cured, and she was put into a mental health facility for a short stay just a few months ago.

Maybe she got back on the drugs and OD'd, maybe she offed herself, maybe she got drunk and fell down a flight of stairs. Whatever the cause, its clear that her family and friends did what they could to help, but they were fighting some serious demons.
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:45 PM
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76. Also physical health problems...
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:56 PM
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94. Sounds like she had some complex issues. Drug issues are bad enough, but combined with mental
health issues, I imagine it was overwhelming.
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:59 AM
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3. This is so sad.
She had such a great voice. What a loss. A foolish, stupid loss.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:03 PM
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5. I didn't realize she was so incredibly young, too.
I feel for her family. Her father and mother have been trying to do everything possible to keep her off drugs, keep her away from drugs. While she's famous, this story is played out hundreds if not thousands of times or more all over the world. Very, very sad.

PB
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 04:38 PM
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100. I'd never seen the before photo or anything like it
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 04:40 PM by trud
Just the terrifying current photos.

Really, I think there should be a law that people are committed to rehab for a long time, until they are really free of drugs. f personal liberty when dealing with addiction.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:39 PM
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60. not familiar
I'm not familiar with this artist, though I heard about the Belgrade debacle' on the news. I checked youtube and there are some videos of her there. Do you have a recommend for what you consider to be representative of her talent?

Amy Winehouse - Tears Dry on Their Own
Amy Winehouse - Back to Black
Amy Winehouse - Rehab
Amy Winehouse - You Know I'm No Good
Amy Winehouse - Stronger Than Me
Amy Winehouse - Pumps
Amy Winehouse - In My Bed
Amy Winehouse - Just Friends


Cher

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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:46 PM
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61. That's a fine list you already have
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Kurmudgeon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:18 PM
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71. I like her cover of "Will you still love me tomorrow" very well, it's on youtube.
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beac Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:10 PM
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83. Her cover of the Zuton's "Valerie" has always been a favorite of mine.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4HLY1NTe04M&ob=av3n (Note that it opens with a quick rap, unrelated to the actual song. Winhouse herself isn't in the video, look-alikes lip-synch the words.)

Her acoustic version of it is haunting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pAz9UpnRKw
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girl gone mad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:25 PM
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87. I like the title track on 'Back to Black'.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 03:20 PM by girl gone mad
A beautifully arranged sad song from a girl with a broken heart.

Actually, start to finish I think that album was her masterwork. A friend mailed me an early press because I wanted some new music for a road trip. It was playing when I had my car valeted at my destination hotel. The next morning, as I was leaving, there was an entire team of valets begging to know who 'that band' was. They had been listening to it all night.

:(

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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:43 PM
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131. Her Back to Black album is truly incredible.
From your list above, Tears Dry on Their Own, Back to Black, Rehab, You Know I'm No Good and Just Friends are all on the album. The others, I believe, are on the album Frank.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:46 PM
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92. You watch the videos of her singing. You hear the music coming out of her mouth
You see that she is singing it

But it sounds like someone else's voice

She was one of a kind

RIP Amy
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:02 PM
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4. I'm very sorry to hear that . My heart goes out to her and her family and friends.
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Ghost of Tom Joad Donating Member (651 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:05 PM
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6. so sad
she was such a good singer, better than most of the crap we hear. RIP Amy.
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IamK Donating Member (514 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:06 PM
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8. not a surprise but sad....
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:07 PM
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9. I never saw a picture of her before the alcohol and drugs. What a beauty.
she had a beautiful voice. What a tragedy. What a shame.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:54 AM
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137. yeah, that 'before' picture is stunning -- i'd marry it...
such a waste...
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:11 PM
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11. So sad :(
27 is sooo young.
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:11 PM
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12. I was looking forward to more music from her... RIP Amy
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:16 PM
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14. Did she die of cancer, ignored? She is so thin.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:21 PM
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16. Drugs. Lots and lots of drugs.
Lots and lots and lots of drugs.

PB
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:03 PM
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67. "They said I had to go to Rehab, but I said NO, NO, NO!!!"
:cry:
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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:33 PM
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19. I think her huge voice escaped and crushed her to death...
That's my bet
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glinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:46 PM
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77. Interesting and poetic.
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RyanPsych Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:18 PM
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15. Newest member of the 27 Club
Guess I'll have a few shots to her tonight
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Cherchez la Femme Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:26 PM
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18. That's one Fortean number...
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:38 PM
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58. isn't that weird
that so many of the talented musicians die at that age? I always thought that if you do drugs/alcohol and make it past 27 (and you're a musician), you'll be alright. I'm sorry she joined that club. :(
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:01 PM
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65. I know enough musicians who made it past 27 to know that's not true.
You can die of drugs and alcohol abuse in your 40s and 50s too.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:39 PM
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88. Townes Van Zandt
is all I gotta say
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:32 AM
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118. Many died of other causes
Dboon of the Minutemen died in a car crash, unrelated to alcohol or drugs
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:22 AM
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123. I was shocked when that happened
as I had just seen them play a a couple weeks before in Berkley.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:49 AM
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120. artists in general...
seem to be tortured. Why did Van Gogh cut his ear off?
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me b zola Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:24 PM
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17. I was pulling for Amy
I loved her voice and hated how she was treated by the media and others who find it so easy to comment on the struggles of others.

Rest in peace Amy.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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20. Singer Amy Winehouse has been found dead in her home, per MSNBC
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 11:42 AM by Ilsa
Source: MSNBC alert

No excerpt to copy yet.

No link yet.



I don't have details yet.
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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21. BREAKING NEWS: Amy Winehouse, 27, found dead at her London flat
BREAKING NEWS: Amy Winehouse, 27, found dead at her London flat
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-2018020/Amy-Winehouse-confirmed-dead.html
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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22. Yeah, I just found that link. Thanks for updating me. nt
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jakeXT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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23. Already in the 27 club
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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26. I just finished reading a book about Pete Ham of Badfinger, author of "Without You,"
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 12:02 PM by Hissyspit
"No Matter What," "Baby Blue," etc. He hanged himself at 27. Sad.

This is a better list: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_27s:_The_Greatest_Myth_of_Rock_%26_Roll

Robert Johnson apparently the inaugural member?
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enuegii Donating Member (624 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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24. They're staying classy on Wikipedia:
Under "Claim to Notability" in the chart there, they have:
English Choked on hairball. Advised by manager to get haircut. Tried going into rehab for a hair addiction but she said no no no


See "27 Club" link posted above.

Wonder how long it'll stay up that way...
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T_i_B Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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25. Already on Facebook that line from "Rehab" is getting used a lot
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Ian David Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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28. Wikipedia gives her cause of death as, "Waking the Dragon." WTF? n/t
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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32. "The dragon" is a reference to heroin.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:41 PM
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89. Did she in fact die from a heroin OD?
Or was it alcohol?

Both are equally toxic...
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nomorenomore08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:11 PM
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113. Probably a combo of the two.
Most heroin OD's, AFAIK, involve alcohol as well. Double dose of downers = respiratory depression, etc.
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inwiththenew Donating Member (163 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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27. Sad, but honestly I am not surprised at all.
n/t
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tammywammy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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29. Yeah, me either. n/t
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Amerigo Vespucci Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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30. Sad end to a sad life.
Easily one of the least shocking headlines of 2011.

It was never a matter of "if," it was a matter of "when," and now we know.

R.I.P., Amy. I hope you now have the peace you didn't have while you were among us.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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31. BBC link here
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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33. Amy Winehouse has been found dead
Source: KNX News Radio Los Angeles

Just broke the news

No link yet.



No details yet.
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Faygo Kid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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34. RIP.
An air of inevitability about this one. So sad.
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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41. link
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CaptRandom Donating Member (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:36 PM
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35. Noooooooooooooooo!!!!
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hlthe2b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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36. I hate that this is not that unexpected......
the woman was very troubled and drugs were her demon.... even without yet knowing the cause of death, it was not unexpected.

sigh....
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tishaLA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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38. true. i actually started tearing up when i heard though
She was a talented, tormented woman.
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calimary Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:21 PM
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115. Sucks, doesn't it? I wasn't surprised either. And that made me sad, too.
Another waste of talent. You wear your heart out there in the big wide open if you're an artist. That's you on the canvas or vibrating from the guitar strings or leaping from the lips of a vocalist. That's you out there, and you and your psyche are both bare naked to the world. One can be excruciatingly vulnerable in that position, I think.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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37. WHAAA?
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BumRushDaShow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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39. Wow. How sad.
:(
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Maine-ah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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40. ah...fuck.
love her voice.
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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42. So sad, she was a gifted artist.
Not surprising, but very sad.
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RandySF Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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43. I cannot say that I did not see it coming.
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comtec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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44. *jaw drops!!!* so young
Damn those around her for not insisting she get the help she needed!
in the cold light of logic, no im not surprised either... but it's still a pity.

Damn Hollywood, damn the riaa, damn the entire fucking industry for making this kind of thing common and expected!
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cbdo2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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48. Um, no....
damn Amy Winehouse for throwing away all of her talent and her life with drugs.

Please don't blame a drug addicts family on that person doing drugs. She was an adult. Her friends and families have their own lives and can only do so much to help her.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:20 PM
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85. unless those around her had the legal authority to make her get help
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 03:00 PM by SemperEadem
there's not much, legally, they could do to make a grown woman do what they wanted her to do, even if it was for her own good.

In the end, no one but Winehouse could make Winehouse open a can of "act right"--or WANT to open a can of "act right". She never, ever displayed
an interest or an intent to do it. You can flail in the wilderness all day damning everything that comes to mind, but you're eventually going
to have to assign a damn to Winehouse for not caring enough about herself to do right by herself.

I think that it's a shame that her struggles got the best of her. I never followed her or her music, but still, it's a life that is now extinguished... she and my own child are the same age and I for one can't begin to imagine the pain her mother is in today over this. What horrible and horrifying news to receive that your dear child is dead. I only hope that Winehouse has now found the peace that's been eluding her for so long. My prayers go out to her mother that she may be able to one day find comfort in knowing that her daughter's music touched the lives of so many people.
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trud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:32 PM
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112. comtec
Obviously you have never known an addict. You can insist your head off, and it does nothing.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 07:00 AM
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126. You have never lived with an alcoholic, evidently. n/t
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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45. 27 Club
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Psephos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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49. Wow, chilling and prophetic. n/t

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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:50 PM
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62. oh my...
that makes it even more tragic.
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gauguin57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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46. On CNN's breaking news ...
Singer Amy Winehouse was found dead at her apartment in London on Saturday, the UK Press Association reported. She was 27.

Last month, Winehouse canceled the remainder of her 12-city European concert tour.

The singer had a history of battling drugs and alcohol. Winehouse recently left a British rehab program that a representative said was intended to prepare her for the European concerts.
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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47. No, no, no!
:argh:
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watercolors Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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50. And why do we care??!!!
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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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52. Yeah!
It's really stupid to care when someone you like dies, isn't it?

:sarcasm:
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:07 AM
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117. You liked her?
Did you even know her?

You may have liked her persona on TV or in concert, or liked the way she sang, but you don't like her because you never knew her.

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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 07:02 AM
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127. ...and we love you for your charming personality.
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buckrogers1965 Donating Member (515 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 01:34 AM
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134. Thanks!

Many people love my personality, thanks for complementing me!

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FlaGranny Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 05:05 AM
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135. Heck, I don't even know
who she is. Just seems wrong to say "who cares?" Somebody always cares.
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Kahuna Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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57. "We?" Is that a royal "we," or are you trying to speak for everyone?
:eyes:
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SpartanDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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53. Stevie Wonder could have seen this coming
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BigDemVoter Donating Member (169 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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54. Poor thing. . .
She was obviously a very troubled soul & needed help she either couldn't or wouldn't accept. I hope she's at peace now.
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mvd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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55. I thought it might come, but you still hope it doesn't
She was very talented, and it's a very sad story. In this case, people tried to help her.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:37 PM
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56. BBC link for you
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Melinda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:38 PM
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59. Amy was obviously troubled; artists often are. I will miss her voice.
be at peace now, little one.

One of my favorite's:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ludxpkyrab0&feature=feedwll&list=WL
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:00 PM
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63. RIP Amy Winehouse
Hopefully she'll find the peace now that eluded her so much in life.
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pasto76 Donating Member (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:01 PM
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64. tragic life and death. Keep it in perspective though
thousands of my soldiers have died trying to make this world a better place. Children die in droves every day in this country, and only one or so every few years merits media attention.

sgt p
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Gregorian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:02 PM
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66. Aw. A brilliant singer. So sad.
Sometimes you wonder if being bright is a curse.

I didn't follow her music. But I listened, and I knew she was super special.

Damn. Life sucks.
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thesquanderer Donating Member (647 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:07 PM
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68. When asked, Condaleeza Rice said "No one could have predicted that." (n/t)
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:15 PM
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69. "The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long & you have burned so very, very brightly"
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SKKY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:15 PM
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70. I guess she really, really didn't want to go back to rehab...
...such a sad, sad day. Stunning voice.
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bunny planet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:21 PM
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72. R.I.P. Amy
the world just lost an amazing talent - so sad.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6pAz9UpnRKw&feature=share
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Lucky Luciano Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:29 PM
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73. Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, Janis Joplin all died at 27 I think. RIP. nt
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:38 PM
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74. Sad. what a waste. She was so talented. Somehow I thought she would get through it.
very very sad.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:42 PM
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75. K&R n/t
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:46 PM
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78. sad but she threw her life away
I really don't care. She had it all including resources to best of rehab. She chose her reckless path.
I feel for the 90+ in Norway. I can't feel for a reckless pop star.




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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:50 PM
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80. Perhaps you could summon a bit of feeling for the family and friends
who obviously grieve her loss.

If you had such a lack of caring for Ms. Winehouse, why did you bother commenting in the first place?
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:07 PM
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101. some of those friends may have helped enable her disease
To those who truly tried to held her my sympathy.
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AngryAmish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:13 PM
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130. Because her family and friends all hang out on DU...
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:21 PM
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86. She had a disease!
All the money in the world may not be able to get the monkey off your back no matter what you do. I have the smartest cousin with a PhD and he can't quit meth. He's tried, but it has him. Probably for good.

People all respond in different ways to addiction depending on nurture and nature and Gawd knows what else. I am not going to judge her. You seem to be doing a fine job of that.

I just hope she finds some peace at last.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:22 PM
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102. and I have a real disease
Depending on the Diagnosis which I still have 6 weeks to wait to see specialist it could be something that could kill me or make my life miserable in next 2 or so years. I want to live a good life. So yeah I admit to lacking sympathy to celebrities who drug and booze their way to an early death and all the news coverage that garners.

I'm sick of MSM covering every antic, jail, & rehab they go through & the rest of us even give a Damn.
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Missy Vixen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:57 PM
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109. Recovery
>I'm sick of MSM covering every antic, jail, & rehab they go through & the rest of us even give a Damn.<

Maybe Craig Ferguson can enlighten you. He's been there.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJ-kW0bgPHY

I am the daughter and granddaughter of alcoholics. I respect those who have the courage to face their demons and come out on the other side. Maybe Amy Winehouse would have done so, if she'd had a little more time.

I'd rather hope the best for people like her, and for those in my family, than point the finger. It's a disease. It's not a moral failing or a weakness. It takes everything most people have to recover.
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 08:50 PM
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114. My point is celebrities like Winehouse have all the damn resources
to get help and still keep going back to the old lifestyle. And the damn MSM almost glorifies their "antics".

Bet it would've been a helluva different reaction here if Limbaugh had died of an overdose of Oxycontin.

Yeah it's a disease but some take no damn heed of trying to recover. Especially some of these celebrities. I can't feel sorry for them when there are truly many in this world who lack even basic medical care.

Bet if I had Winehouse's money I could see the finest Dr's to help me out instead of waiting 6 more weeks. And I even have decent health insurance. Without I'd be SOL.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:35 PM
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RamboLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:04 PM
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129. nice liberal values cause I have little sympathy for a celebrity's passing
Who drugged and boozed her way to an early grave.

She picked her road.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:43 PM
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91. The problem with substance addiction is you have no idea how "reckless" you are being
Show a little empathy...

You know it doesn't have to be "either/or"
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BadtotheboneBob Donating Member (219 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 03:32 PM
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97. Very True. One has to want it...
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 03:32 PM by BadtotheboneBob
There's a saying in AA/NA that may sound cynical, but is the absolute truth, "Some must die, that others might live". i.e. We in the fellowship use examples such as Amy to remind us what is waiting for us if we chose to return to 'using'. I'm positive that Amy will be discussed at length tonight at a great many 'meetings' around the world. It is sad. It is tragic. But, recovery from addiction is serious business and as I've said, one must want it and go to any length to stay clean and sober. Otherwise, it's "Less than Zero"...
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 11:18 AM
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138. orldly possessions, quite possibly...
"She had it all..."

Worldly possessions, quite possibly. But I don't think she possessed an internal peace, or the strength to either recognize or deal with an addiction. Maybe there are some people who believe that's part and parcel of "having it all...", but I imagine there are other people who feel she was quite poor in the relevant possessions (ephemeral or physical) an individual may require.

Regardless, I imagine we all illustrate and advertise our compassion and our tolerance for others in one way or another. :shrug:

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texshelters Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:47 PM
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79. Why Winehouse and not say,
Robert Smith of The Cure? Drugs and Alcohol are cunning, baffling and powerful.

Perhaps this is a reminder to us all.

R.I.Peace,
Tex Shelters
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harmonicon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:07 PM
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82. I don't think he's taken drugs much since the 80's.
He has said though that there was an entire American tour in the early 80's that he can't remember. Why not him? Fuck if I know. I don't think he was taking much heroin, and he's never smoked.... just booze, uppers, and psychedelics, I think.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:42 PM
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90. Amy was like me: No volume knobs, just "on" and "off"
:cry:
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astral Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:54 AM
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121. +1
I was like that too. Different but the same. I am grateful that I get to live sober now, and it is so true that those who don't know what it feels like will never understand.

I never paid attention to who Amy Winehouse was and listened to her for the first time tonite. I am in awe, and very sad to know her time ran out.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:01 PM
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81. Very very sad, RIP.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:16 PM
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84. It wasn't unexpected. Just the when.
Back to Black is great. A pity.
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avaistheone1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:53 PM
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93. Shocking. She threw her incredible talent and young life away.
Sad. RIP
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 03:05 PM
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95. RIP...add her name to the list of stars who died at 27
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1monster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 03:08 PM
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96. This end had been predicted for several years. I'm sorry she couldn't turn herself around
even to save her life.
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Ruby the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 03:44 PM
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98. She feared in 2008 that she was going to be one of the 27 Club.
Eerie.

Mon Dec 29 2008

Washington, Dec 29 (ANI): Troubled singer Amy Winehouse reportedly has a fear that she will join the 27 Club - the tragic group of rock stars who died at a very young age.

(snip)

Now, Alex Haines, a former aide to the 25-year-old has lifted the lid on her fears.

Haines is adamant Winehouse has a fear she will die at the age of 27, joining other legendary rock stars including The Doors frontman Jim Morrison, the Rolling Stones star Brian Jones, and Nirvana rocker Kurt Cobain.

“She reckoned she would join the 27 Club of rock stars who died at that age. She told me, ”I have a feeling I”m gonna die young”,” News of the World quoted Haines, as saying. (ANI)


http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal/entertainment/amy-winehouse-fears-shell-die-young_100136033.html
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DeeJay Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:25 PM
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103. She would have been 28 in September
sounds to me like she had a self-imposed deadline to make, and made it
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NuttyFluffers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 04:33 PM
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99. sad, love her music.
i guess she gave all she could. it now is her time to rest.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:29 PM
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104. Damn
Damn.Damn.Damn.Damn.

:(
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FLPanhandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 05:40 PM
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105. Never saw any talent in her but 27 is too young to die.
It's too bad when someone so young dies by their own actions.
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RSillsbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:06 PM
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106. They wanted her to go to rehab
but she said no, no no.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-25-11 10:22 AM
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136. She should have been forced..watch this video from a concert a month ago
Absolutely fucked out of her mind, can't remember the words to her own songs...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G43DnaU9qPM

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:36 PM
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107. rip
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Thegonagle Donating Member (548 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 06:53 PM
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108. I enjoyed her music. It's so sad that the alcohol and drugs got her, and took her away.
I was hoping and praying (to the extent that I do) that she could get better.
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NJCher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:15 PM
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110. Amy Winehouse photo galleries at Life
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 11:03 PM
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133. She was a very attractive girl in 2004
Then she lost a lot of weight and added those tattoos that didn't add anything to her at all. A shame. :(
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liberalmuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:26 PM
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111. G*d D*mmit!
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 07:26 PM by liberalmuse
I just found out and I'm so devastated. It's not really a shock, but yet it is. I thought there was a chance she might get through her addiction. Another obscenely talented musician dead at 27. What a f*cking waste. I hope her family and friends are getting the support they need. :cry: :cry: :cry:
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 12:41 AM
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119. she had a hell of a voice. nt.
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loyalsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:46 PM
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132. Her style wasn't my personal favorite but
Her voice and singing were some of the very best in terms of skill and ability that the music industry has ever seen.
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Adenoid_Hynkel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 01:24 AM
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122. Sadly, I think Amy Winehouse the musician died in 2006
Edited on Sun Jul-24-11 01:34 AM by Adenoid_Hynkel
shortly after the release of her breakthrough album. Her musical output more or less stopped after 'Rehab."
She spent her remaining 5 years on earth existing as internet tabloid fodder.
In our 24/7 Twitter/reality TV world, the decline of celebrities is documented day-by-day, hour-by-hour.
I suppose Hendrix and Joplin got off slightly easier and didn't get stalked by digital camera-wielding paparazzi in their final weeks.
It would be nice if the media (especially the music press) would drop the Train Wreck Chic coverage and quit romanticizing and enabling self-destruction.
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eilen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:31 AM
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124. Maybe a tour was the last thing she should have tried
Maybe she should have gone somewhere, maybe in the country with some good security to work on new stuff, do healthy stuff and take care of herself and not stay in London.

So many have died the last few days. I too mourn for the young innocents brutally mowed down by that evil asshole in Norway, the people dying slowly of starvation in Somalia and those in the middle east, wondering each day if today is the day they lose family or their own lives to a flying killer robot sent from the US.
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 06:37 AM
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125. It's a disease, not a choice. I'm sure she didn't willfully 'throw away' her talents...
...they were taken from her.

In my opinion, the last thing someone suffering from addiction needs is a morality trip about how weak and thoughtless and wasteful they are/were with their talents. Many suicides occur while imbibing by people wracked with guilt and feelings of worthlessness.

:(

It's a disease, and there are prescriptions that help.
Also, therapy. These are scientifically proven methods.

But, she lives in a different world than 99/100th of the people on these boards, I imagine so, I'm sure pressure, and changing a lifestyle would be different. Who knows.

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chelsea0011 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 10:13 AM
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128. Very sad. This person was very talented.
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