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Bosonic Donating Member (774 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:11 AM
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Bullet train 'derails in eastern China'
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 09:59 AM by Bosonic
Source: AFP

BEIJING — A bullet train derailed in eastern China on Saturday, the official Xinhua news agency said in a short report, stating that casualties were unknown.

It was not immediately clear which train was involved, but on June 30 Chinese Premier Wen Jiabao formally opened a flagship $33 billion high-speed rail line from Beijing to Shanghai.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/afp/article/ALeqM5i7DGrd6CDo5-fy1BIEwALk5yL93w?docId=CNG.fe768764ef7d83a788e89cdd526cf0de.a61



Update:

WENZHOU, July 23 (Xinhua) -- Two coaches of a bullet train fell off a bridge after derailing in east China's Zhejiang Province late Saturday, local fire fighting sources said.

The details of casualties are unknown at the moment.

The train numbered D3115 from the provincial capital Hangzhou to the city of Wenzhou derailed at the section of Shuangyu Town in Wenzhou at 8:34 p.m., said fire fighters from Wenzhou.

Rescue personnel were rushing to the scene.

http://news.xinhuanet.com/english2010/china/2011-07/23/c_131004846.htm



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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:13 AM
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1. OMG, how awful. nt
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:14 AM
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2. Maybe they can import some American "quality control"
It certainly did a lot for Japan when Deming imported it there.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:29 AM
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3. Wouldn't be surprised if low-wage workers and poorly made parts were involved in construction.
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 09:29 AM by Crowman1979
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:40 AM
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4. Or, sabotage.
Bad news, anyway. :(
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BNJMN Donating Member (461 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:37 AM
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9. Hate to pee in the tea, but aren't we getting a bunch of high speed rails
Edited on Sat Jul-23-11 10:37 AM by BNJMN
put up all over the place here?
Seems like it's be awfully hard to guard miles and miles of unmanned rails.
:Image of b/w cartoon bad guy blowing up train trestle:

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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:21 AM
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12. True, but trains don't fall 40,000 ft out of the sky.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 09:47 AM
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5. There are always bugs to be worked out of state-of-the-art.
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backtomn Donating Member (424 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:09 AM
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6. Some of these trains were already deemed unsafe
I read that a number of them were operating at lower speeds, because they were unsure of the safety at the highest speeds. I am not sure of all the quality control in China, but I know that it is common for U.S. companies to closely monitor things made there, because they have a tendancy to get a bit loose on procedures over time.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:23 AM
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7. Those Chinese do SUCH high quality work. No one could have forseen this.
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Downwinder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:38 AM
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10. Who will be first over the new Bay Bridge?
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 02:23 PM
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17. Not me. I won't go over it as long as I live.
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Devil_Fish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:34 PM
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19. I will not even sail my boat under it.NT
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reformist2 Donating Member (998 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:33 AM
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8. Speed, speed, addicted to speed.

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Suji to Seoul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 10:56 AM
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11. I've ridden the D and G trains all the time
This is the first accident ever mentioned in the past three years I've lived here. The D train is actually slower than the new G trains that go from my new city of Nanjing to Shanghai.

D trains are the long distance bullet trains. One goes from here to Chengdu, one goes to Chongqing. . .eight to ten hours on the train.

The new G trains are the ones from Shanghai/Nanjing to Beijing, Shanghai to Nanjing, Hangzhou to Shanghai and Beijing to Tianjin. I can go from Nanjing to Beijing in just under five hours.

I am sure there will be bugs in it. . .I hope this isn't something normal. I doubt it is, but still. . .I hope no one died or was seriously injured.
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krispos42 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:39 AM
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13. Yikes!
That's very bad. :-(
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muriel_volestrangler Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 11:58 AM
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14. 11 dead, 89 in hospital; 1st train stopped by lightning, 2nd crashed into it
At least 11 people have died after two high-speed trains crashed into each other in China's eastern province of Zhejiang on Saturday, causing two carriages to fall off a bridge, the state news agency Xinhua reported.

Another 89 people have been sent to hospital, it added. Each carriage could carry about 100 people, Xinhua said.

The accident occurred after the first train was hit by lightning and lost power, and was then rear-ended by another bullet train, Xinhua added, citing provincial television.

Pictures on state television's main news channel showed one carriage on the ground under the bridge, with another hanging above it.

http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2011/jul/23/china-bullet-trains-collision
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Demonaut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 12:17 PM
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15. I thought that looked like a collision, they must have slowed down
a lot to have such few dead
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Baclava Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 07:16 PM
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18. At least 32 dead now - First train lost power due to lightning strike
(Reuters) - At least 32 people died when a high-speed train smashed into a stalled train in China's eastern Zhejiang province Saturday, state media said, raising new questions about the safety of the fast-growing rail network.

The accident occurred on a bridge near the city of Wenzhou after the first train lost power due to a lightning strike and a bullet train following behind crashed into it, state television said.



The total power failure rendered useless an electronic safety system designed to warn following trains of stalled trains on the tracks up ahead, and automatically halt them before a collision can occur, the report added.


http://www.reuters.com/article/2011/07/23/us-china-train-idUSTRE76M26T20110723
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JusticeForAll Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-23-11 01:48 PM
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16. New Chinese Highway Collapses after Two Days - July 14
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-24-11 02:44 PM
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20. As usual, snide anti-China remarks.
Terrible...
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