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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:22 PM Original message |
Albany Leaders Reach Consensus on Religious Exemptions for Marriage Measure |
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MineralMan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. My fingers are still crossed. I wish they'd |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
2. seems more like |
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brooklynite (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
5. The countervailing theory is... |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:26 PM Response to Original message |
3. Good, and I want MY religious exemptions as a straight married |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:27 PM Response to Original message |
4. In a way it's being made into a bigger issue than it needs to be |
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Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-24-11 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
6. Doesn't the constitution already do that? |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Original message |
7. Consensus Reached on Religious Exemptions in Gay Marriage Bill |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
8. one more reason to remove their tax exempt status |
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grantcart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
9. CNN also confirming the report |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Isn't that already implied? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
13. You're not missing anything. It's stupid and redundant and stupidly redundant. |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #13 |
14. Thanks for the reassurance. |
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Beartracks (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #10 |
15. I would not expect a Church to recognize a gay marriage. However... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
17. Good question. I haven't read the full amendment, but would such hospitals be |
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Kerrytravelers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Hmmm... good point. Wasn't there Federal Legislation passed that said same-sex partners have legal |
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trud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
11. It never occurred to me |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
12. It is part of the gay agenda... |
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NYC Liberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #11 |
16. Exactly. If this is all that's required -- a superfluous amendment |
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ingac70 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
19. Churches/ preachers regularly refuse to marry people all the time.... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
20. Ah, the bigotry exclsions. So important |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:04 AM Response to Reply #7 |
21. Why do extremists of all religious and political stripes hate the Constitution of the United States? |
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RyanPsych (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:05 AM Response to Original message |
22. Deal reached in NY marriage equality, MSNBC reports |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
23. skelos still isn't allowing it |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. How do you know he isn't allowing it? |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #28 |
31. because according to WNBC |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #31 |
33. I saw something about an "all nighter." |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #33 |
34. well if it is an all nighter again |
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Renew Deal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #34 |
45. Doesn't that mean the assembly can pass it as soon as they get back? |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #23 |
46. Not true. The Lieutenant Governor cannot cast a tie-breaking vote on legislation. 32 are needed. nt |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #46 |
50. wrong! |
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TheWraith (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #50 |
52. Not wrong. His ability to break ties is strictly on procedural issues, NOT legislative. |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
24. I only hope |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
26. I'm willing to bet that they do. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
27. If so HRC or GLAAD should offer to post a list online so we all know who |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #27 |
30. This bill will be wonderful stimulus package for wedding related businesses |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #30 |
55. Oh, they'll undoubtedly decline the money, given how strongly they feel about |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
29. I doubt it. But we'll have to wait for the text. n/t |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #26 |
32. It doesn't, actually. |
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Ian David (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #32 |
37. That's not bad. It's pretty much what they would have had anyway under the first amendment. n/t |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Exactly. But they can still campaign on how they protected religion from government. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
35. In New YorK? |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yesterday this issue |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #39 |
43. They can have the fits if we can have the weddings. |
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Abq_Sarah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. Heck, just about anywhere |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #35 |
47. Maybe caterers and florists will do well. Not sure about gifts. |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #47 |
51. Your decision. And nothing for your anniversary? |
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nichomachus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Nope |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
36. Let 'm |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #24 |
41. IMHO, religious exemptions don't matter, since they would likely be overturned as Commerce Clause co |
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sabbat hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 06:23 AM Response to Reply #41 |
56. However |
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Chan790 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 03:15 PM Response to Reply #24 |
57. Why? |
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Mz Pip (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 03:54 PM Response to Reply #57 |
58. I have a big problem |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
25. I am ready to RIP UP my sacred, holy, NYS CIVIL Marriage License |
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aquart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #25 |
38. Legal MARRIAGE is the goal. |
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HockeyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
40. Although I no longer live in NY, both my children do |
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Lucinda (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #38 |
54. :) |
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msongs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
48. Great! this means gays CAN discriminate against others on religious grounds :-) nice nt |
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ImNotTed (250 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-25-11 04:06 AM Response to Reply #22 |
49. K&R |
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