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RhodaA Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:38 AM
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Republicans do not have the power to block an Elizabeth Warren recess appointment
Source: Public Citizen

(or any other recess appointment)

"Media outlets have reported that the Republicans, despite being the minority party in the Senate, can block not only Senate confirmation by the Democratic majority (using the standard filibuster), but also a recess appointment—by stopping the Senate from adjourning. How can the minority party stop the Senate from taking a break? Press accounts haven’t explained or elaborated on the point, except to report that apparently it’s the House—meaning Speaker Boehner—that can hold the Senate open. That doesn’t explain much.
Here’s the rule:

Neither House, during the Session of Congress, shall, without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days, nor to any other Place than that in which the two Houses shall be sitting.

That’s Article I, section 5, clause 4 of the U.S. Constitution. You have to hand it to the House Republicans. They read the Constitution.

But they may not have read the whole thing. A little bit later—in the very same Constitution—is this passage on presidential powers:

(The President) shall from time to time give to the Congress Information of the State of the Union, and recommend to their Consideration such Measures as he shall judge necessary and expedient; he may, on extraordinary Occasions, convene both Houses, or either of them, and in Case of Disagreement between them, with Respect to the Time of Adjournment, he may adjourn them to such Time as he shall think proper; he shall receive Ambassadors and other public Ministers; he shall take Care that the Laws be faithfully executed, and shall Commission all the Officers of the United States.

That’s Article II, section 3, clause 3 ... If the Senate wants to adjourn and the House won’t permit it, the President can adjourn both houses of Congress. That would be a fitting end to the House meddling in nominations — a power the Constitution expressly assigns to the President and the Senate, not the House."



Read more: http://www.citizenvox.org/2011/06/21/republicans-cannot-block-elizabeth-warren-recess-appointment-cfpb/
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:41 AM
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1. Im sure they can trick Obama into compromising it away...
...somehow
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:27 PM
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3. Ya know...I've got to agree with you.
I hate to say it...but I think Avant Guardian is right.

While he is not the worst Prez for Dems, there are some disappointments. I just want him
to Man-Up against these ConservaTurds, GOBPers, RushThugs and T.HATEbaggers. Getting Ms. Warren
into position is GOOD for the American CITIZENS.
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liberalmike27 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:14 AM
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46. Yep
In my view Obama should lay down a few hundred apointments. But he's demonstrated he's an amazing wimp. Like I say, Republicans have no qualms about obstructing democrats in every way, large and small, as demonstrated by them not appointing new leaders to those who resign in departments they simply don't believe in, and want to get rid of. By the same token, Obama needs to do the same.
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bitchkitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:22 PM
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12. Trick him? They don't have to trick him.
All they have to do is ask.
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Loge23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 09:50 AM
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45. He wouldn't want to upset anyone, you know.
Other than his base.
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Avant Guardian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:32 AM
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51. Perhaps he could use that as a slogan idea for 2012
'All things to all people'
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:59 AM
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32. Because they are sooo very clever
in their trickery. :hi:
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:26 PM
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2. I am no Constitutional scholar, but...
...why did the Republicans not do this when we kept the Senate from adjourning over Christmas under the Bush regime?
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:37 PM
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5. They only wave the constitution & read some parts they like.
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EC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:44 PM
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6. Because it was the Senate not the House. n/t
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joeglow3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:29 PM
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13. So the argument is the president can adjourn BOTH, but not just one?
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 04:17 PM
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52. It was probably impossible to get the House to DISagree.
Edited on Fri Jun-24-11 04:17 PM by sofa king
Nancy Pelosi was Speaker of the House during the Christmas holidays, 2007, so she and Senator Reid probably concurred on the plan. With no dissent, the President cannot intervene.

The issue at hand was preventing Steven Bradbury, a Republican lawyer whose criminal credentials date back to his days as a clerk for Clarence Thomas, from being recess-appointed to the Office of Legal Counsel.

As it happened, just as I alluded to in another post below, the Bush Administration simply failed to renew the nomination and kept Bradbury as "acting" head of the Office until President Obama came in. Bradbury's role, quite obviously, was to prevent the entire lot of them from going to jail for the attorney firings scandal and Karl Rove's attempt to install political hacks as US Attorneys in every swing state in the nation prior to the election of 2008.

I have a feeling his name will begin to appear prominently again in the news this time next year, as that scandal slowly works its way toward Senate hearings and potential criminal prosecution. But, he had a solid four years to hide the bodies, so we shall see.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 09:37 PM
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22. And more importantly, how did John Bolton get in?
He was a recess appointment during a Dem majority.
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:37 AM
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39. Congress was in recess when he was appointed.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:27 PM
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4. REALLY? They have blocked her just fine so far.......
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PassingFair Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:45 PM
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7. Only because DEMS are "blocking" her, too.
She might spill too many beans.
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TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 12:51 PM
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8. That's why the Dems are blocking it. n/t
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ej510 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:10 PM
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9. The fear of Elizabeth Warren is another reason why we need
publicly financed elections.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:00 AM
Response to Reply #9
33. Like we need another reason. nt
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:15 PM
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10. It's so good to see this information. Did NOT know about it.
Welcome to D.U., RhodaA. :hi:
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RhodaA Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 05:25 AM
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27. Hi, TU. I've been here a while - Just want to add a note:
While my post explains the powers, it may not be likely that Obama would use it during this upcoming July 4th recess because of the ongoing budget and debt ceiling negotiations.
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placton Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:17 PM
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11. Guess what?
Obama still won't do it - she is not corporate enough
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:32 PM
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14. This is the nut of the issue
Does Obama really want her to make sweeping changes or is he playing both sides of the fence on this issue as he does many issues?
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Iliyah Donating Member (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:47 PM
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15. All I got to say is
gopers aka tea brats are insecured about smart "reality" based women. Look how they drugged Nancy Pelosi throught the gutter, and she remained strong and determined. Same with Elizabeth Warren. Look at the unbelievable bashing the gopers did at the hearing and all the bashing with the media about her. She's "reality" smart and strong, and gopers aka tea brats HATES that in a women.

If Dems that to a female goper she would cry foul, look at dumbass Palin, the first thing that comes out of her mouth is "because I'm a female" crap. Goper aka tea brats women are like their counter part males can't take what they dish out.
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pnorman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:20 PM
Response to Reply #11
17. In obedience to his Corporate Overlords!
Haven't seen that on DU in quite a while, and I was beginning to wonder!
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 01:49 PM
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16. without the Consent of the other, adjourn for more than three days,
So adjourn the Senate for 2 days and JUST APPOINT HER! It can't be done in 2 days?
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:38 AM
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40. No. It is not considered a recess unless it is 3 days.
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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 02:42 PM
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18. Has anyone ever considered that maybe President Obama doesn't want to appoint her
Presidents usually use recess appointments for nominees that the Senate has refused to act on. But here is no nomination to act on, as the President has not nominated anyone.
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MessiahRp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 11:56 PM
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24. You're probably right.
The last thing Obama wants to do is to upset his corporate apple cart before the election no matter how good the appointment would be for the regular American people. I suspect Obama is going to raise far, far less money from small contributions this time around now that people have tasted his ability to compromise so many things away so easily, so he's going to need all the corporate contributions he can get.
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RhodaA Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:51 AM
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30. Here are some important nominations that are being blocked:
I, personally, am not emphasizing the Warren appointment; it was in the title of the news release, so I could not alter it. Just as important are these - all being blocked:


Commerce Secretary - John Bryson
Deputy Attorney General - James Cole
SEC Commissioner - Daniel Gallagher
Head of Fish and Wildlife Agency - Joseph A. Smith Jr.
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24601 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:06 PM
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19. They don't need the House to disagree - they could filibuster any
motion to adjourn.
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BadgerKid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 05:07 PM
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20. +1, Interesting game of chicken. n/t
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FreeBillClinton Donating Member (222 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 08:33 PM
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21. It wouldn't really be Obama's nature to do something like that.
but, hey, maybe he'll surprise us.
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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-23-11 10:25 PM
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23. K&R for Elizabeth... Get it done....
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gtar100 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 01:58 AM
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25. Shhh!! You'll spoil it for the Democrats by exposing their excuse.
They were all happily following President-In-Fact Mitch McConnell when you opened the lid on this. Prepare for obfuscation and a great deal of hesitating until it's too late!!


P.S.: I hope I'm wrong.
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bowens43 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 04:54 AM
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26. That would require a president with a spine
we have to make do with what we have.
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skyounkin Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:23 AM
Response to Reply #26
28. Congress goes to recess with the president we have...
not the president we wish we had.

I'll be blunt- Obama doesn't have the stones to do this.
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sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:28 AM
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29. There's a more reasonable explanation than that.
The Bush Administration routinely practiced a technique where they identified like-minded criminals within the ranks of the department in question and simply elevated that person to "acting" head of the department, while they simultaneously nominated an unqualified political hack for the job so that confirmation would stall in the Senate until they recessed.

A non-evil President could perform a similar practice and achieve good results without losing political points by using recess appointments.
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RhodaA Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 06:56 AM
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31. Other Just as Important Nominations Being Blocked
I had to use Warren's name in the title of this post because the title of a news release cannot be changed. But at least as important are these nominations - all being blocked (and many more):


Commerce Secretary - John Bryson
Deputy Attorney General - James Cole
SEC Commissioner - Daniel Gallagher
Head of Fish and Wildlife Agency - Joseph A. Smith Jr.
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Marblehead Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:10 AM
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34. Elizabeth Warren
would actually do a good job for the American people, that is why she won't be appointed.Corporations-10 citizens-zip
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:21 AM
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35. As long as Democrats cower in the corner
when Republicans raise their voices, Republicans can do anything they like.
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:25 AM
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36. We could use some good news.
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wordpix Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 07:52 AM
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37. Pres should take this advice---it is DANGEROUS that the minority party can hold up nominations
We need these people in the positions and only if the person is incompetent, unethical or criminal should the appt. be held up.
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Better Believe It Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:24 AM
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38. Obama doesn't want a recess appointment of Warren.
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intaglio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:44 AM
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41. Now imagine if Dubya had done this
The screams from the Obama haters critics would still be echoing, and rightly so.

But would be OK if Obama rapes the constitution in this manner
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former9thward Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 08:44 AM
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42. Recess is not considered adjournment. The OP is totally off.
But of course the OP knows more about the Constitution than the White House.
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progressoid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 09:34 AM
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43. Starting to think she is just window dressing.
The administration nominates her to throw us a bone but doesn't expect her to get approved. All the while it's business as usual in DC and on Wall Street.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 09:47 AM
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44. Don't worry, Obama can block it - BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:31 AM
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47. Here's the actual rule as Dems understand it:
When the Repigs are in the majority, they run things.

When the Dems are in the majority, the Repigs STILL run things.

Rinse and repeat.
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SoapBox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:36 AM
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48. But will Obama have the SPINE to do it?
...I'm not holding my breath.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 10:48 AM
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49. Good! And throw some liberal judges onto the bench while we're at it! As many as possible!
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-24-11 11:30 AM
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50. But where is the bipartisanship in that?
:sarcasm:
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