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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:49 PM
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Casey Anthony Trial Update: Casey Anthony ill as Caylee skull pictures shown
Source: CBS News

(CBS/WKMG/AP) ORLANDO, Fla. - Casey Anthony was removed from an Orlando courtroom Thursday afternoon after appearing very fragile as photos of her 2-year-old daughter Caylee's skull were shown.

Anthony began to rock back and forth, breathe deeply and hold her head in the palm of her hand as Dr. Gary Utz of the Orange/Oseola county Medical Examiner's Office showed pictures of Caylee Anthony's remains, including graphic photos of her skull. Anthony did not look up as photos were shown, but the photos were described in graphic detail, reports CBS affiliate WKMG.

Dr. Utz testified that their were plant roots growing in the mat of hair on the skull, and the consistency of the hair mat and roots helped keep the jaw bone, which normally detaches, attached to the skull.

In the photos, tape could be seen sitting on the nose and mouth area of the skull. Utz said the tape was "lightly adhered" to the jaw bone, reports the station.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20070381-504083.html#ixzz1Op1097bz





Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-20070381-504083.html




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Duct taped????

Tell me - is this what they say about psychopaths - that they sometimes fake emotion?

Because that's my take - why you would EVER duct tape your child's face, alive OR dead???

Jesus fuck, this makes me ashamed to be a part of the human race...
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:52 PM
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1. I don't know if shes a psychopath but
she is a very sick person, who, if guilty, probably does feel bad for what she does, but still did the deed.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:54 PM
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2. I don't know about that...
I've known psychopaths

They fit into regular society like you and me

But when something gets in their way, very cold and calculated, they destroy it

And they feel...nothing
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:41 PM
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25. We call them Congressman usually. nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:25 PM
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12. a little heart was put on the duct tape when it was applied. think about
that one for a moment.
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:38 PM
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14. Mentally Ill people can do horrible things without wanting to
and regret it later.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:33 PM
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34. Yes but why duct tape?
That is what spells it out for me
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trumad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:54 PM
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3. She didn't get to ill killing her daughter.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:55 PM
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4. No she didn't
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ChrisBorg Donating Member (411 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:55 PM
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5. I hope she's sick to death.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:56 PM
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6. She knew they were going to show these pictures today
In all likelihood her lawyer told her this morning

She had some time to prepare

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Oceansaway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:56 PM
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7. i share your shame...
i've followed this trial....today was a bad day for the defense....

tomorrow won't be good either....these photos are damning....


and i believe she is indeed faking it...
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PinkTiger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 05:58 PM
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8. Something
about this story just doesn't add up. I'm disturbed by the claims of sexual abuse, and the fact that her father denied it; I'm also disturbed by the statements that her father knew more than her mother, earlier, and that her mother was kept in the dark about things. There is something about this story that is really messed up - and I doubt if we will ever know the whole truth.
But I don't think this girl is in her right mind. I also think there is something the father knew and he is lying.
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AngryOldDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:24 PM
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11. I think to some degree the whole family's complicit in this.
They know what happened but it's all about protecting Casey.

THe poor child deserved much, much better than this clan.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:52 PM
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18. Or the parents might have been in complete denial.
When the dad picked up the car from the junkyard, I'll bet he knew what he was smelling...but wasn't ready to either tell the wife or confront his daughter. Cindy was so emotionally attached to the child, I think she wanted to believe the child was kidnapped and whatever other lies Casey was telling to avoid facing that ugly reality. I know if my daughter was in a similar set of circumstances...I'd be willing to believe her in spite of what the objective evidence might be telling a neutral observer.
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glaeken777 Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:28 PM
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24. don't be so sure about the dad
Occam's Razor -- He may have denied it for the simple reason that he isn't an abuser.

Judging from all the conversations while the daughter was in jail, she leaned on him pretty heavily and seemed to trust him more than her mother. Not the behavior you'd expect of someone who'd been horribly abused by a father.

I think she's trying to sell her folks out, her dad in particular -- and is for some reason hoping they'd coddle her one last time by taking a fall to keep her from death row.

Additionally, the brother has not been very supportive of her claims in general. I think the parents had wool pulled over their eyes, but the bro sees right through her.

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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 08:57 PM
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30. she should be crazy by now and not know her head from a hole in the grown given the drama
from spectators news over the years... she has been punished
way too much.  This was never a fair trial.  This is a trial
by viewers.  It was sick when that Nancy woman was on it  and
it is worse now that the real news has taken over.  I feel
very sorry for the whole family for allowing this game to
continue.  The attorneys seem to be paid for the drama they
create as well.  Bullshit.  I hate the whole thing.  

I heard the daughter drowned in the pool, the family freaked
out and tried to cover up and now they are lost in a world of
shit as our crime economy and our faux court, cop, and news
economies milk it to the end.  Just let it fucking end
already. 
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:00 PM
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9. all i know is that i have a daughter around the same age as hers was and it makes my
heart ache to think of that poor girl. a child trusts their mother. she trusted her mother and her mother violated that trust. to me that is worse than anything. I don't know what happened. And I know how hard it can be when you get tired and frustrated and all that. but to hurt your own child!! i've had to walk away and go in another room before.... there are things you can never take back.
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elfin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:08 PM
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10. Casey needs to be duct taped and buried in muck
I cannot watch the proceedings. My heart clenches at each pic of her daughter.

Why not say you can no longer care for her and enter into adoption? But no - she had to murder her to become "free."

No mercy here, no matter what is in her background, which are probably lies after lies.
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juajen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:44 PM
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15. Her parents would never have let her give Caylee up for adoption.
Her whole point in killing her child, I believe, was to regain the affection of her parents. Everything was about her little girl, plus the child kept her from living the life of a fun, sexy single girl. She also thought she would get the attention she craved from a world wide public and the sympathy would make her a national figure. She was a failure. She lied about everything, and she was at the end of her lying rope. Just sayin'.
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IcyPeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:28 PM
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13. I think she is guilty.. and
she is up for the death penalty. However I would NOT like to see her be put to death. Life in prison w/o parole, yes. I definitely think she's messed up.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:45 PM
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16. Here's what I don't understand.
If she did murder her by drowning...why not claim she was in the house making a P&J sandwich for Casey when she climbed up and fell into the pool? Seems like she could have pulled off a sympathetic mother to a jury and probably would never have been convicted of accidental manslaughter.

From what I've heard, she spent a lot of times researching stuff like chloroform and self defense and I'm pretty sure this was premeditated...but why not have chosen a method that was both believable and likely to gain her a lot of community sympathy. And she'd have rid herself of a child that was a drag on her social life.
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WinterParkDonkey Donating Member (103 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:51 PM
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17. Today's testimony made me ill...
just listening to it and I have a strong stomach.

Folks I have been to the area where this poor child's body was found and I cannot believe that the people who live near the burial site didn't smell something. There is a house within 15 feet of where the child was buried.
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givemebackmycountry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:56 PM
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20. Hi, WPD
A neighbor in Maitland.
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Hugabear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 08:33 PM
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28. welcome to DU
I have also been to the area where the body was found. Keep in mind, that area had been underwater for a long time after Tropical Storm Faye passed through. In the heat and underwater, probably wouldn't have taken too long to decompose. By the time the flood receded, there might not have been much odor left.
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ejpoeta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 06:55 PM
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19. that drag on her social life... uggh. i bet her parents would have taken the kid.
her daughter would have been crushed, but she would still be alive. i hate selfish people.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:02 PM
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21. I totally agree and I believe that they'd have adopted her in a second.
I'm sure they had doubts about their daughter's ability to be a responsible mother and I wouldn't be at all surprised if there had been a lot of conversations with Casey to do just that. But it might be that Casey just couldn't face this failure of giving up her daughter and might have even viewed killing Catlee as a way to either get back at the 'rents at some perceived injustices or doing away the person who had replaced her as the object of her parents love and attention.
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d_r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:18 PM
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22. because she is a freaking idiot.
why not take her camping in the everglades and have her get "lost?"

Why not take her for a boat ride out a couple of miles out in the ocean and let her "fall" overboard?

Why not eaten by an alligator? Get in to the medicine cabinet? Choke on a balloon? Fall off a balcony? Etc., etc.

I know I am sounding really creepy right now, and for the record I love my children and find what happened to poor Kaylie so horrific. I'm just saying the "why not do it this way?" questions are a road to no where. Remember she went through the whole made up baby sitter who supposedly abducted her. The reason she didn't do something that would have been a better plan was that she was making the shit up as she went along and she isn't very bright to begin with.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:27 PM
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23. I suspect you're right.
Nothing I've read makes me think she's a Rhodes Scholar. It's probably more likely that, while she'd fantasized with the idea of killing her, the actual event could well have been spontaneous and not planned. Confronted by the actualization, she panic'd and started off on her trip to nowhere to find 'Nanny the Zanny'.
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notadmblnd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:48 PM
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26. My sister believes that shge was drugging the child and that she accidently OD-ed her
She believes that Zanny the nanny, is Xanax. But if she was accidentally killed with an overdose, why the duct tape over the mouth and nose? Was it just to throw investigators off?
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 07:54 PM
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27. I totally don't get that either.
If she did accidently OD her or Caylee accidentally drowned, why the duct tape? Makes no sense and creates an evidence trail right back to her. Without the duct tape, she could still claim that it was an accident and she dumped the body in a state of panic. This only nails her to premeditated murder, IMHO.
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dogmoma56 Donating Member (329 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 08:56 PM
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29. if you plan to kill your child don't Google how to break someones neck on your computer
:cry: however this works out it will be gut wrenchingly sad.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:11 PM
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31. It already is....sad, i.e. What is so sad to me is that there are so many couples
who desperately want children and here's this lovely child and the mother is obviously, mentally ill. No one in his/her 'right' mind could purposefully murder a child. Mothers protect not harm or certainly not kill their children. The mother has no maternal anything. You're right....it's very sad indeed.
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tinkerbell41 Donating Member (722 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:22 PM
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32. I've followed this case from the beginning
I have read all the timelines, the statements, the IM's the texts, etc...
From the beginning, I thought (hoped) maybe someone did snatch the baby.
But after rereading all the evidence at the start of the trial and realizing the whole story is just completely mind blowing, No way is she NOT guilty.
In fact, after watching the Grandmother's breakdown during the replay of the 911 calls, the truth was all too evident. For me that sealed it. Being a parent myself and having been in denial about common teenage trials and tribulations, and having to face the truth and remembering what that felt like, I could totally see the Grandmother breaking through that wall of denial, and coming face to face with reality. Replaying the early days of the scene in front of their house, angrily defending their daughter, and still searching up until 6 weeks ago for "Zanny" the nanny I get it.
No way could those parents admit or even imagine the horror of what their daughter did. They know now. My heart ached for her on the stand.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 11:11 PM
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35. That's my take on the parents involvement too.
They wanted to believe what Casey was telling them because the truth would be too much to bear. I could see myself in their situation and I'd believe my own daughter if she said her child was abducted, regardless of whatever past history of deceit might be known.
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Nossida Donating Member (205 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-09-11 09:25 PM
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33. disgraceful
This Show Trial should not be broadcast
on the Shamestream Media. Casey has been
on Lock-down for the duration until this
so-called Trial. How could she not be any
thing but a Neurotic mess? The display of
poor little Caylee's mutilated body is the
height of poor taste. The Media needs to
reconsider the wisdom of back to back
coverage of this type of Trial. Just another
televised Witch Hunt, the specialty of the
Media Vultures.
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