Wisconsin Republicans rush agenda before recalls

[Newsjock]

Source: Associated Press

Wisconsin Republican Gov. Scott Walker and GOP leaders have launched a push to ram several years' worth of conservative agenda items through the Legislature this spring before recall elections threaten to end the party's control of state government.

Republicans, in a rapid sequence of votes over the next eight weeks, plan to legalize concealed weapons, deregulate the telephone industry, require voters to show photo identification at the polls, expand school vouchers and undo an early release for prisoners.

Lawmakers may also act again on Walker's controversial plan stripping public employee unions of their collective bargaining rights. An earlier version, which led to massive protest demonstrations at the Capitol, has been left in limbo by legal challenges.

"Everything's been accelerated," said Republican Rep. Gary Tauchen, who is working on the photo ID bill. "We've got a lot of big bills we're trying to get done."

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2011/05/07/state/n104434D34.DTL&tsp=1

[givemebackmycountry]

1. "We've got a lot of big bills we're trying to get done."

Translation:

"We got a lot of big bills we're trying to get done to FUCK the Wisconsin people over, and make our friends the Koch Bros. happy. and we want to do it before they throw our asses out of office".

[jtuck004]

2. So if they have strength, a diversion is needed.... eom

[Zorra]

3. Is it almost time for another little Dem "vacation"? And another public spectacle in WI?

Would this finish off the republicans in Wisconsin?

[Bozita]

4. Time has come to dust off this photo ...

[Zorra]

16. lol! funny and true.

Thanks for the laugh.

[HankyDubs]

5. wondering if this is possible

anything stopping them? All we need is a delay...

[cascadiance]

40. Problem is that it only works on budgetary bills...

Even if they left, they could still pass through crap that isn't budgetary, and it would give room for those being targeted to recall to vote against some while the bill still passes with no Democrats to vote against.

The key is to make VERY public exactly what they are ramming through and use it to recall the six now, and then put that much more on the list that a new governor will have to ALSO fix when Walker is recalled.

[Citizen Worker]

6. Makes wonder if this strategy would be available to the rethugs had there been a general strike

instead of relying on a judicial process. Had there been a general strike Wisconsin businesses would have put a stop to the Koch/ALEC/Walker agenda. But the movement allowed itself to be co-opted and the juggernaut charges onward.

[socialist_n_TN]

45. Yep. I think that an opportunity was missed.........

by trying to go through the "system". Or at least going through the system ONLY. And a correction THROUGH the system won't do anything, but stop the bleeding. Getting any of this legislation "recalled" will only happen after the 2012 elections because the ASSEMBLY is still controlled by the fascists.

The recalls MIGHT be able to retake the Senate and MAYBE even recall Walker, but you can bet the Assembly won't vote to repeal any of the laws that are put in place UNTIL antifascists Dems are put into office in 2012.

Anyway, I'm not sure the electoral system is even going to work in Wisconsin. Or Tennessee. Or anywhere else for that matter. The fascists have stacked the deck, legally and illegally electorally. We'll see how it shakes out, but I personally think that the BEST we can hope for "through the system" is to stop the bleeding NOT repair the damage.

[Turbineguy]

7. Leaning into a left hook.

Giving people all the more reason for a recall.

[DallasNE]

26. Acting This Agressively Could Well Lead To More Recalls

It also signals that the Republicans expect to lose most of these races.

The surprise is that Walker's job approval is still above 40%, even with the damage he has done in such a short period of time.

[jwirr]

8. They are making a big mistake. This will keep their agenda in the

public eye and make it easier to beat them at the polls.

[quakerboy]

38. They don't care

As long as they get their legislation through now. If they can destroy enough now.

[perdita9]

9. The Party of Just-Not-Getting-It

This kind of crap is the whole reason the citizens of Wisconsin want to recall you! Are you deaf or just incredibly stupid?

[glinda]

10. They need to be stopped somehow. The damage will be too too massive to fix.

[freshwest]

25. Yes. Once things that took generations to create are scattered, they are not restored.

Vested interests, such as the privatization crowd, won't surrender once they've seized property.

And after they've picked the bones of the public, there will be no money to make a comeback.

This is how worlds are destroyed, they must be caught red handed and stopped before the goods are moved.

[glinda]

41. I think many people do not realize this though unfortunately.

[freshwest]

49. They're in a state of shock, as all good-intentioned people are when capitalism devours their world.

[glinda]

52. I tend to think "naive'" more than shock.

[freshwest]

53. Most people are too busy to keep informed of what most of us know here.

I've recently shared to a couple of friends what we here post or say, that often refer back to my years of activism and being a news hound which is not always a mentally healthy thing to be.

Between taking care of parents, disabled children and working two or three or four jobs, in addition to their long hours with other civic responsibilities such as teaching, networking and helping others in need, the homeless and neighbors, they are simply overwhelmed.

The more I tell them, the madder they are. They are retired and still having to work three jobs. Little time to think and not much energy. You can't keep up a schedule like that and attend much to political trends and the finer meanings, but they have that gut reaction to their world being destroyed and push a little bit harder.

All those things combined never allowed for being in political life, which some people think means they're stupid. They are not dumb or 'sheeple' as others want to term them. They worked themselves to death to make everything work. They are not the capitalists who wove their webs to draw in the unsuspecting for unbridled profit. They never had the luxury of anything but living. In the end, they have lived their lives well and left a lot to future generations.

As to the people who are in shock, I don't look down on any of them and I wouldn't term them naive and I don't think you would if you saw the depth of what they have achieved. Neither do I think you look down on them, either. And they know full well what is right and what is wrong. Don't underestimate them. They never had time for any leisure time activities, which means they know how to focus their energy when the time comes. I've seen them use that to push against strong, well-funded foes in legislation.

It's said that politics is a sport for the leisure classes. Which is what we have in these psychopathic sycophants with boundless energy who are well-funded. They are the ones with the idle hands making mischief, they are the ones devouring the world.

Thanks for replying. See you around.

[Kip Humphrey]

11. So, instead of re-evaluating the Republics are speeding toward political suicide ahead of recalls?

ok.

...Boy, are they stupid!

[Doctor_J]

14. Speeding toward suicide?

Wisconsin will never recover from the damage they will do over the next several months. More like homicide.

Wake up!

[defendandprotect]

21. Exactly ...!! And who are we counting on to "fix this" -- ????

The Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC --

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

If you knew this, why didn't you tell su?

If you didn't know, pass it along -- !!

:)

[Doctor_J]

22. Very strange how many here think this "won't work"

No wonder we have gotten trounced for 20 years.

[defendandprotect]

31. Trust, once given, is hard to recall, evidently -- !!

Personally, I think we all need our BS meters turned up waaaay higher --

I'm constantly amazed that anyone here even watches MSM corporate-press any longer!

Constantly we see that posters complain of the rw corporate press and their lies and

disinformation, misinformation. But they seem to think that there is a limit on how

big a lie they would tell -- like 9/11, or Global Warming?

[freshwest]

54. I think the recalls will work, that resisting step by step, contract by contract, will work.

But there also needs to be a concerted effort to make sure that people in WI are informed and those voting numbers strong, by never underestimating the GOP and their tricks.

It is a mistake to ridicule the power these people are wielding, is all that some of us are trying to say. The GOP and teabaggers will break heads as well as laws if given the chance.

I support and applaud the spirit of the resistance to Kochroaches Scott Walker and Paul Ryan and all their cronies. I don't want to discourage the resistors, they're making waves far beyond WI.

:fistbump:

[defendandprotect]

20. But who's waiting in the wings? What is the Dem team like?

The Rightwing Koch Bros. Funded the DLC --

http://www.democrats.com/node/7789

http://upload.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x498414

If you knew this, why didn't you tell su?

If you didn't know, pass it along -- !!

:)

[lunatica]

12. They've seen the writing on the wall and are in full

panic mode to serve Mammon (the Koch brothers).

[Doctor_J]

13. Anything been set on fire yet?

Why not? Why do we (real citizens) allow them to get away with this?

[socialist_n_TN]

46. Yep. We've all been WAY to polite.........

Time to get LOUD, ROWDY, and in your face. Non violently of course, but civil disobedience is DEFINITELY called for.

[wilt the stilt]

15. repub's don't believe in democracy

They believe in ruling. That is why they liked Cain last night. They believe in complete obedience. I wish some journalist would ask Cain how would he deal with the fact that he couldn't fire anyone.

[defendandprotect]

17. K/ R --

Imo, Elites/corporates are cashing in all the chips while they can

before the public figures out Global Warming!

[hadrons]

18. Scott Walker, the man who puts the CON in Wisconsin

[ElsewheresDaughter]

19. the next admin will just repeal all their bills....sign excutive orders no?

[Doctor_J]

23. It will be nearly impossible for a Dem to vote by the end of the summer

All of this petitioning is good for fun, but in the mean time democracy has been completely destroyed in WI.

[Historic NY]

24. Make the circus work for it....go after Sen. Randy Hopper & his concubine...

dig deep he shouldn't even vote if he isn't representing his district.

[Courtesy Flush]

27. They have to hurry up and do the will of the people

before the people throw men out for what they're doing.

That actually makes sense to them.

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[the_chinuk]

29. That's one way to tell what Republicans want …

See how they panic.

Another way is just to watch over a period of years and connect the dots, but that way is so out-of-fashion.

[Ikonoklast]

30. Doubling down on a pair of fives.

Oy.

[Broadsword]

32. Gutless Old Pricks

It's like dinosaurs scurrying about before the meteor hit.

[midnight]

33. K&R

[krispos42]

34. Wow, they really can't take a hint, can they?

I hope the Dems go to Illinois for a nice long vacation.


Again.

[russspeakeasy]

35. and they will probably get it done. The msm has forgotten Wisconsin.

[socialist_n_TN]

47. The MSM, in general, never even acknowledged Wisconsin

The protests were too polite for the MSM to pay attention. And I even agreed with it to a large extent AT THAT TIME. But using the theory of graduated escalation and response, it's time to get rowdier.

As an example, in Tennessee the ones that got arrested in the State House are the ones that got statewide coverage and SOME national coverage. They're escalating the fascism, we have to escalate the reaction TO the fascism.

[cstanleytech]

36. They arent doing the people in their state right by rushing

this many changes before executing their roach maneuver (you know, scattering before the people are able to step on them all.).

[alp227]

39. what about the lame duck session of Congress in Dec 2010

where they renewed the Bush tax cuts and repealed Don't Ask Don't Tell? In this case the Democrats who got thrown out of office did one last encore before their terms were up.

[onehandle]

37. Quick! Let's do what the people don't want us to do while we can. nt

[toddwv]

42. With 6 Republicans facing recall, I'd think there would be some

that would take a step back and go "Woah! Hold on! I'm going to LOSE MY JOB!!!" and refuse to step in line with legislation that would aggravate their precarious positions.

[socialist_n_TN]

48. Will the recall elections be any freer from fraud

than the state Supreme Court election was?

[iwishiwas]

43. Walker and his Repug poodles are sickening.

[Javaman]

44. they smell the coming of the Deep Shit train. LOL nt

[Zambero]

50. Unintended consequences for the GOP

By rushing said agenda, they can expect to "enhance" their own recall prospects, poison their own wells for 2012 and beyond, and energize the progressive base (already in progress!). Whatever they pass ths year can be overturned at some point, once voters push back now that the cards have been shown.

[barbtries]

51. bunch of fucking bastards

they just piss me off so much. money/power/power/money
people do not matter to these people.