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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 02:37 PM
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Fidel Castro criticizes US for bin Laden kill
Source: AP

Fidel Castro criticizes US for bin Laden kill

HAVANA – Fidel Castro has criticized the United States for the manner in which its forces killed al-Qaida mastermind Osama bin Laden, saying it executed him in front of his family.

Castro says in an opinion piece published Thursday in Cuban media that the raid inside Pakistan by a team of U.S. Navy Seals also violated that country's laws and offended its dignity.

The former Cuban leader says he abhors all forms of terrorism. He notes that he expressed solidarity with the United States despite decades of political differences following the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.

But the 84-year-old revolutionary says the decision to kill bin Laden and bury him at sea "has turned him into a much more dangerous man."




Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20110505/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/cb_cuba_castro_bin_laden
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Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 02:39 PM
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1. God for someone who was supposed to be at deaths door
Castro is sure being rather critical lately.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:42 PM
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11. The Essays are published at least weekly
They can be read here in English here : http://www.granma.cu/ingles/
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:23 AM
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21. How does being ill necessitate you support everything a country which has tried to kill you does?
If he could twist his brain in knots like that, it would indicate he's sicker mentally than he was physically.

As the C.I.A. indicated long ago, they've tried over and over to assassinate the revolutionary leader of Cuba.
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 02:42 PM
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2. Good one. :-)
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 02:45 PM
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3. Yeah, Castro had his enemies killed in secret.
That's how it's supposed to be done; the families never find out what happened to their disappeared relatives.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:25 PM
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9. Got any links to that ?
.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:27 AM
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22. Like dipsydoodle, I would appreciate seeing those links you've got to Fidel Castro's "disappearance"
of right-wingers. You'd be doing everyone a favor.

That would put him in the same category as the U.S.-approved, supported, right-wing puppet governments of Argentina, Brazil, Chile, Peru, Bolivia, Colombia, etc., etc. starting in the 2nd half of the 20th century.

We've never had any links like the ones you're going to post here, so this is an auspicious occassion. Thank you so much in advance.
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center rising Donating Member (446 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 02:50 PM
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4. Truly, is this guy even rational anymore??
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:25 PM
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8. Castro will ALWAYS reject the "Right" of America to Kill someone in another country.
Edited on Thu May-05-11 04:25 PM by happyslug
Remember, we tried to kill Castro several times in the 1960s, thus he can see himself the victim of such an attack. It is sometime hard, but the Law protects evil people as well as good people, for the simple reason the quickest way to pervert the law, is to justify a wrong by saying you are doing it for what is "Right". I paraphrase a scene from the Movie about St, Thomas More (The movie is "A man for all seasons")

More's Son in law: "Hang the law, I would cut down all the laws to get at the devil"

What would you do? Cut a great road through the law to get after the Devil? ... And when the last law was down, and the Devil turned round on you – where would you hide, Roper, the laws all being flat? This country is planted thick with laws from coast to coast, Man's laws, not God's, and if you cut them down -- and you're just the man to do it -- do you really think you could stand upright in the winds that would blow then? Yes, I give the Devil benefit of law, for my own safety's sake!"


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A_Man_for_All_Seasons

That logic is the basis of any attack on this killing of bin Laden, if what we did to bid Laden justified, thus any attack on anyone who is ACCUSED of terrorism is justified. If you can NOT see HOW such a broad justification could lead to massive evil, you do not understand how people will justify what they want.

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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:56 AM
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18. He's senile.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:31 AM
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23. He's STILL recognized as being brilliant by the leaders of other countries who've ed him
during and following his serious illness.

People have NEVER been in doubt about his mental abilities. That includes various U.S. politicians and retired military personel as well as U.S. personalities, as well as tradespeople who've met him and held extended conversations with him.

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Paradoxical Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:07 PM
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5. Fidel Castro sent gay people to prison camps.
He's a fucking asshole. Not worth a moment of my time.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:11 PM
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7. But he stopped that decades ago.
I read a quote from Keynes recently on DU, when asked why he changed in his mind on a subject he replied, "When the facts change, I change my mind, what do you do",

Castro was a produce to the 1940s and 1950s, Gays were, at best, tolerated, and worse imprisoned. This was especially true south of the Border. When AIDS hit, he return to that policy, and from what I can tell, still do it IF THE PERSON WITH AIDS HAS A RECORD OF SPREADING AIDS. As to Homosexuality in general, Cuba has NOT jailed Homosexuals since the 1970s.

For more see the BBC Article on Castro and Cuban Homosexuals:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-latin-america-11147157
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:37 AM
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24. His own niece, Mariela Castro is the proponent of gay rights in Cuba currently.
Here's an article from the New York Times:
A Castro Strives to Open Cuban’s Opinions on Sex
http://www.nytimes.com/2007/06/09/world/americas/09castro.html

~~~~~

Cuba also carries the distinction of having introduced the first gay soap opera in Latin America a couple of years ago, which has been watched with great interest throughout the country, and started opening the subject in this Latin America former "macho"-focused culture to new thought, new awareness.

Thank you for posting the BBC article. Very interesting.
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BulletproofLandshark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 03:18 PM
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6. Tough shit, Fidel. n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:29 PM
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10. AMENDED : Here's the full essay unamended in its entirety.
Edited on Fri May-06-11 04:42 AM by dipsydoodle
AMENDED AT THE REQUEST OF THE MODERATORS BECAUSE IT EXCEEDS 4 PARAS DESPITE THE FACT THAT GRANMA, THE CUBAN STATE NEWSPAPER, GIVE OPEN PERMISSION FOR THE REFLECTIONS / ESSAYS OF FIDEL CASTRO TO REPUBLISHED IN THEIR ENTIRETY COMPLETE AND UNAMENDED.

Reflections of Fidel
The murder of Osama Bin Laden

(Taken from CubaDebate)

THOSE who pay attention to these issues know that, on September 11, 2001, our people expressed solidarity with the United States and offered the modest support we could provide in the area of emergency care for the victims of the brutal attack on the Twin Towers in New York.

We also immediately offered our country’s runways to U.S. aircraft with no place to land given the chaos which reigned in the first few hours after the strike.

The Cuba Revolution’s historic position in opposition to acts which endanger the lives of civilians is well known.

Unwavering participants in the armed struggle against the Batista dictatorship we were, but opposed, in principle, to any terrorist act which would lead to the death of innocent people. Such a position, maintained over half a century, allows us the right to express a point of view on this delicate issue.

Fidel Castro Ruz

May 4, 2011

8:34 p.m.

Translated by Granma International : http://www.granma.cu/ingles/reflections-i/5mayo-The%20murder.html

There is open permission to republish Fidel Castro' Reflections/Essays unamended in their entirety.

Aside from that this is yesterday's news , as may be seen by the date ,which Yahoo have decided to publish today.



Hasta La Victoria Siempre.
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Bacchus39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:59 PM
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13. nope, we're good with the methods used n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:09 PM
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14. the methods used ?
I take you mean using a half arsed presis on Yahoo when you were as capable as me of getting the real deal.
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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:17 AM
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17. Hear! Hear!
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joshcryer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 01:59 AM
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19. EXTRAORIDNARY comment about Cuban exiles.
If anyone is paying attention he is lamenting the 10% population migration from Cuba. He is blaming the US for those migrations and therefore is absolving them for leaving his country due to economic or political reasons (about 16k Cuban's come to the USA every year).
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:56 AM
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25.  It's good to remember that Cuba offered the use of its airports IMMEDIATELY after 9/11,
free use to handle airplanes with no where to land, and Bush refused, just as he refused to accept the Cuban doctors and medical supplies who were ready IMMEDIATELY to go to New Orleans as soon as the hurricane and flood wiped them out.

I think a lot of people in the States are waking up, stepping beyond the swill their corporate media forced upon them all these years about Cuba. If they don't wake up now, it's hard to imagine how they manage to keep from learning the truth, after all these long years! It must be exhausting avoiding it!

So many of us started seeing through it as a natural effect of growing up.

Thanks, again, for posting the article in its entirety.

http://www.tapchicongsan.org.vn.nyud.net:8090/Editor/assets/131/10.jpg http://img.thesun.co.uk.nyud.net:8090/multimedia/archive/00686/SNF20SPDZ-380_686813a.jpg
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JVS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 04:58 PM
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12. Castro is experienced when it comes to US assassination attempts.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:14 PM
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16. You mean this : 638 Ways to Kill Castro
Edited on Thu May-05-11 05:14 PM by dipsydoodle
A Channel 4 documentary film, broadcast in the United Kingdom on November 28, 2006, which tells the story of some of the numerous attempts of the Central Intelligence Agency to kill Cuba's leader Fidel Castro.

Full film here : http://www.channel4.com/programmes/638-ways-to-kill-castro/4od
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu May-05-11 05:14 PM
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15. He really blew it by not choosing professional baseball as a career
He could have made shitloads of money.
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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri May-06-11 02:21 AM
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20. He already had money. He gave his family plantation to the new government. n/t
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