NH lawmaker suggests sending disabled 'to Siberia'

[Snoutport]

Source: Federal News Radio by Norma Love of Associated Press

A 91-year-old freshman Republican state lawmaker suggested New Hampshire's mentally disabled should be shipped to Siberia and said he is unapologetic about the comment.

Read more: http://www.federalnewsradio.com/index.php?nid=29&sid=2302609

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This makes me so mad!

[FiveGoodMen]

1. Even now, that shocks me.

How can anyone say that?

And why didn't those standing nearest to them beat them to a pulp when they did?

[Demeter]

67. Doesn't Shock Me--That's Why I Got Out of NH

Even if I didn't have a disabled child, NH was no place for healthy people to live.

[wtbymark]

2. Sad

do you think the xenophobic old crotchity dust pillow should be sent to Siberia now, or later?

[TheCowsCameHome]

3. I suspect this guy has some issues of his own.

He sounds like he's unstable.

[Tx4obama]

4. A 91-year-old freshman Republican state lawmaker? 91 years old?

He should never have been elected in the first place!!!

[BrklynLiberal]

5. 91 years old? Perhaps he has outlived his usefulness....I suggest he volunteer for Soylent Green

[roguevalley]

30. BWAHAHAHAHA! Soylent gristle I am assuming you mean ... ;)

[kentauros]

32. Throbbing Soylent Gristle

:P

[aquart]

6. So he doesn't know that we don't own Siberia?

Is there no basic mental competency required for legislators?

[Curmudgeoness]

7. A 91-year-old got elected? Good lord.

What I truly hope is that this sort of comment did not come up during the election. This is one of the most insensitive things I have ever heard out of the mouth of a politician---and that is saying a lot.

Personally, I think that stupid people should be sent to Antarctica. He goes first.

[Auntie Bush]

64. Stupid people elected by stupid people.

How any sane person can elect a 91 year old person to represent them is beyond me. They still have the old sense of morals (prejudices)of the 50's. That should be a warning to the public. Can't count on old fogies not to embarrass you.! I wonder just what democratic ran against him...must have been pretty pathetic.

[Kat45]

65. No shit! I can't even get a job & I'm only 56. n/t

And the article said he manages a mental health center, which means he still has a job at 91! And he has no empathy for the people he's supposed to be helping.

[TheCowsCameHome]

8. Here's more about him >>

http://vote-nh.org/Intro.aspx?State=NH&Id=NHHartymarty

[Old and In the Way]

10. Well, I'll say this...he's got a great name - Marty Harty

Otherwise, there's pretty much zilch on what he thinks about the issues. Too bad, I'll bet they'd be as entertaining as his ideas on the disabled.

I just shake my head and wonder what the voter was thinking. What about the Democratic alternative? Was he/she 95?

[forty6]

35. He represents Barrington, NH, which is not too far from U NH...which is

in Durham, NH.... the college kids probably voted for him because they thought his name was PARTY HEARTY, not Marty Harty!!!!

Of course, he's a Republican!!!!

[bloomington-lib]

9. Well we know where to send him when he starts getting dementia

And 90+ year olds get cold so easily. I hope he has a warm coat.

[glinda]

27. Starts?

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[kag]

11. Not half an hour before I read this...

I was having a discussion with my son about the problem with the state of care for mentally handicapped and homeless people in this country.

This guy is part of that problem. IN A BIG WAY!

:mad: :mad: :mad: :mad: :mad:

[rpannier]

12. A freshman 91-year old legislator

Not gonna say it
I'm thinking it though

[Scottybeamer70]

16. LOL

:rofl:

[Tesha]

13. NH is lost in the wilderness... (nt)

[Lorien]

14. Proving once again that members of the GOP have no souls

why would we want to seek "compromise" with this kind of viciousness?

[Mendocino]

15. Toledo, Ohio

had a mayor that wanted deaf people to live next to the airport. The Mayor-Carty Finkbeiner

[Holly_Hobby]

21. And he was re-elected after he said that n/t

[pam4water]

17. New Hampshire is populated by people who moved there to get out of paying taxes in Massachusetts.

[Cal Carpenter]

24. That's just pure bullshit

Geez. Broad brush and all...

:shrug:

[Tesha]

33. Yeah, it's only 75% true (as of 2010) so how can they say that???

It's absolutely true for NH's "Golden Triangle" (bounded
by Salem, Nashua, and Manchester, more-or-less).

Tesha

[forty6]

36. Um, if their JOB is still in Mass, they STILL pay income taxes to Mass

they don't pay sales taxes, but they pay property taxes.

So no, most Mass people who moved to NH, do NOT do it to escape taxes..only to find less dense populated areas, places with small town feel, and nature trails, great mountains, lakes, ponds, and hillsides, (even some ocean), all that within 60 miles of just about everyone. That, plus no massive corruption in government, just a few fruit cakes like Marty Harty...

[Kat45]

66. Some aviod taxes by finding jobs in NH after they move there

I have a number of friends who grew up in MA and now live in NH. One is constantly bragging about the lack of taxes.

[SemperEadem]

18. old and in the way

he'll be dead soon enough.

yeah, that's mean, but so what.

[rpannier]

20. Not as mean as what he said

I won't miss him

[JDPriestly]

19. I wonder what Sarah Palin thinks about that statement?

Your perspective changes when you have a disabled child or work with disabled people.

[MedicalAdmin]

23. This is a great plan. Ship em to Siberia and Sarah can keep an eye on em...

From her porch.

[Liberalynn]

34. Her kid would be specially exempted

as would all pukers. That's the way they work. Laws don't apply to them. They are for the "little people."

[Historic NY]

22. is he even competent?

[sam sarrha]

25. you dont know what is going on,.. these guys are Dominionists, the whole GOP has been infected>links

the Tax Cuts for the rich, trickle down economics, the New World Order, Globalism.. but who actually runs the GOP..??

these are all Dominionist Principals..!!

the Dominionists work in the Shadows. in 1934 a Nazi refugee Abraham Vereide started what is now the "C st Family", the Christian Fellowship, A.K.A.the Christian Mafia.. and have taken the Evangelical movement into the Dark Side. THEY ARE BY DEFINATION..the Anti-Christ, don't get me wrong, i am a Buddhist i don't believe in the 'Revelation's', but i did grow up in the Free Holyness Pentecostal church. when i was 6 our Sunday school taught us Revelation's. then Romans, Acts, then Revelation's again, but i have a IQ of 164.. so it didn't stick.

the Dominionists believe that God/Jesus only bless the Rich, Wealth and Power is proof of gods Favor of a man/corporation, so it is a sin to tax them. God Speaks directly to the rich/Powerful, the poor must "Submit" totally to their will, and become a slave to god. the poor/sick are being punished by god so it is a sin to help them, or not to torment them.

Trickle Down doesn't mean money, it means only gods blessings to those who followed gods greatest plan and made the rich richer. the New World Order is the Utopian Paradise created when all the worlds poor submit to gods great plan, and become slaves.. the GOP is Theocratic Cargo Cult of OCD psychotic narcissistic wealth/power hoarders.. in the 30's Depression FDR appointed Abraham Vereide to a Cabinet position to start programs for the poor to bring them out of poverty.. Vereide's plan was to start Dominionist evangelical "Revivals" all over the country, only the Poor who came and prayed thru and totally submitted to the Dominion of the rich and Gods great plan would get help. he was replaced ..he immediately began undermining the New Deal.. still the fundamental purpose of the GOP is to repeal the New Deal, because it is the work of Satan, communists and Socialists, all interchangeable.

this is back ground info

... this is one of the best..especially from Straus to making slaves
http://doggo.tripod.com/doggchrisdomin.html

this is very good
http://blog.buzzflash.com/hartmann/10016

this is older, more is known about them now that Jeff sharlets book is out
http://www.insider-magazine.com/ChristianMafia.htm

http://www.yuricareport.com/Dominionism/TheDespoilingOfAmerica.htm


http://sociology.ucsc.edu/whorulesamerica/power/wealth.html
the top 1% richest hold 42% of Americas Financial Wealth, 6 times that of the bottom 80% who hold only 7%.. so the top 20% hold 93% of Financial Wealth. that is why there is a Recession.. nearly all the available money has been looted by the rich. there isn't enough left to run an economy.


the GOP's agenda is really obvious.. it is simply Dominionism.. they don't care who they hurt, who dies in the process.. they are Elite Favorites of god who hates the poor under Divine orders to control the World.. no Quarter for unbelievers.

the best books on the subject, he lived with them..wonderful writer

http://www.amazon.com/Family-Secret-Fundamentalism-Heart-American/dp/0060560053/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1298244911&sr=8-1

http://www.amazon.com/Street-Fundamentalist-Threat-American-Democracy/dp/0316091073/ref=pd_sim_b_1

the power the dark side has over the government is frightening, both parties

this really sounds conspiratorial and crazy, but read Sharlets book, cheap on Amazon. i have been researching this for a while. they count on people thinking it's tooo crazy to be true. they are organized and spread in secret cells. people who join are often unaware of what it is, and become indoctrinated. but it really explains all the weird stuff they do. they openly admire the Nazis and murderous dictators. it is always rationalized like.. 'yea, the genocide was unfortunate nut they were really well organized'. it was bad enough before leo strauss amped it up with Machiavellian.. economy of perpetual war, a government that lies and spins the horrible things they do. they have studded morally fallen religious leaders to learn how to spin all the criticism away and come out with opinion poles better than they were before they got caught with their pants down with a homosexual Crack whore.

[glinda]

28. I believe it.

[sam sarrha]

56. Veredi was a Nazi... all his theory's, plans were to Further Nazi ideologies..

the GOP's platform/programs/goals are fulfillment of Veridie's Nazi teachings.. that were the product of his 'Hallucinations', yes folks, god talked to him and god was a Nazi

is "PRAISE THE LORD, GOD HATES THE POOR !!" the new ----- "sieg heil"

http://www.google.com/images?hl=en&nfpr=1&q=sieg+heil&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&wrapid=tlif129988668265510&um=1&ie=UTF-8&source=univ&sa=X&ei=f7J6TfeVH4eI0QGozfHOAw&ved=0CDcQsAQ&biw=530&bih=398

[Astraea]

26. wow... and I thought they only elected Nazi impersonators

They finally dug up the real thing!

[MisterP]

31. UK's Spitting Image found him

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k2DnW5uC1_A

[maxrandb]

37. This is what the "eff" happens

when Tea-Baggers come out to vote en masse, and Dems stay home to "teach a lesson".

Wonder how many more of these Tea-bag wingnuts are now serving as a result of that "message" we sent to Obama.

Oh wait! That's right...THERE'S NO DIFFERENCE BETWEEN THE PARTIES :eyes:

[Demeter]

68. Sweetie, There Are No Democrats To Speak of in NH

It's the home of the John Birch Society, founded by the Koch Brothers' father.

[47of74]

38. Lawmaker Advocates Eugenics

Source: Concord Monitor

A 91-year-old state representative told a constituent that he believes in eugenics and that the world would be better off without "defective people."

Barrington Republican Martin Harty told Sharon Omand, a Strafford resident who manages a community mental health program, that "the world is too populated" and there are "too many defective people," according to an e-mail account of the conversation by Omand. Asked what he meant, she said Harty clarified, "You know the mentally ill, the retarded, people with physical disabilities and drug addictions - the defective people society would be better off without."

Read more: http://www.concordmonitor.com/article/245163/lawmaker-advocates-eugenics

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He may be 91 years old, but he's still a pig. My grandparents are just a couple years younger and they show a hell of a lot more compassion than this piece of shit.

[vim876]

39. As someone with both...

mental illness and physical disabilities, he can go pound sand. My disorders will probably be curable within 50-70 years, but his stupid is forever. I bet he doesn't believe in evolution either. I've long considered making a t-shirt that says: "You can't believe in Social Darwinism if you don't believe in Darwinism." (I know the theory of evolution isn't "Darwinism." Poetic license is a beautiful thing.)

[bongbong]

40. Somebody better tell Grifter

Somebody should tell Grizzly Grifter about this. Then she can get mad and whine about Todd & Bristol's her baby Trigger.

[Bandit]

41. But I would bet he is very anti-abortion

I could be wrong but it has been my experience people that callous are usually Republicans.

[Moonwalk]

50. Exactly! If he really believes this, why does he belong to a political party--

--that is anti-abortion and just tried to pass draconian laws to make abortions even harder? That doesn't want to let a woman with a fetus with disabilities abort it, nor wants a drug addicted mother to abort her already drug-addicted embryo?

Do we think Sarah Palin, who is considered a heroine to Republicans for keeping rather than aborting her "damaged" child, and likes to boast about this so loudly and proudly, will take him to task? She sure would if he was a democrat.

[The Backlash Cometh]

42. It won't be his problem for very much longer.

[KT2000]

43. Starts with him then

As a 91 year old who has obviously lost his mind - time for him to go.
I have relatives who lived longer than 91 years and they would never think or say something like this. Age is no excuse - he is disgusting.

[47of74]

47. My maternal grandmother lived until almost 92

She would have never said anything like this about anyone at any point in her life.

[nebenaube]

44. Ok, let's start with eliminating him and his contribution to the gene pool then... n/t

[plumbob]

49. Seems like the obvious thing.

Bye-bye, you mean old bastard!

[Snoutport]

59. exactly

incredible that someone who has lived so long and seen so much could have such little good will towards those in our society most needing help.

[nalnn]

45. Gross

:puke:

[14thColony]

46. Eugenics? What's next, phrenology?

I guess with fascist economic policy having arrived, fascist social policy couldn't be far behind.

[AlbertCat]

48. You're 91...

... what do you have left to offer society? How about you be the 1st to go?


Morans!

[valerief]

51. Give that man an ice floe and a big push. nt

[sam sarrha]

57. SORRY.. there isnt enough ice left ..

[sgsmith]

52. Sauce for the goose, sauce for the gander

I hope to hell than none of his children, grand-children or great grand-children have any physical disabilities or substance abuse issues (including alcohol).

Let his relatives suffer the same consequences he'll dole out to "defectives".

[Downwinder]

53. So why doesn't he introduce a physician assisted bill?

[rug]

54. Let's pass euthanasia first.

[crim son]

58. He'd be the first I'd send.

He's probably "pro-life" too. :eyes:

[Vinca]

55. New Hampshire has gone straight to hell in less than a year.

It's mind boggling. Not long ago they had a hearing about cutting off funds for health care. A woman who is being treated for cancer testified in front of the panel and asked how she would be able to pay for treatments. A GOP panel member - a woman whose name I can't remember - told her to hold bake sales to pay for it. I despise these idiots. New Hampshire is turning into teabagger central.

[Mopar151]

60. We've had nutcase legislators since forever

But the teabag thing gave them a rallying point, and some critical mass. Worse, the "baggers" seem to have replaced the moderate Republicans in the House leadership. Now it's crazy 24/7 for these goobers! :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow: :crazy: :bounce: :silly: :dunce: :wow:

[SOS]

62. OT -NH bake sales

You just brought back a memory.
I went to high school in NH.
Every freaking extra-curricular activity was to be paid for with a bake sale.
Man, did I despise that nonsense.
My poor mother, who wasn't all that good at baking, had to put together some stupid pie or muffin.
Then we had to drive for miles to the high school and I had to sit there like a dork selling cupcakes for 50 cents.

NH should just slap on a 3% sales tax and care for it's own citizens with catastrophic illness or injury.
Let the Pentagon hold a bake sale.

[Mopar151]

63. Complex tax issue

Most equitable would be an income tax, keyed to % of federal income tax, or a VAT. Trouble is, our retail business is "no-tax" shopping, either at any border crossing mall. or outlet shopping.
If Vermont makes single-payer $$$$ work, it could well cross the river - small workplace and individuals get KILLED on rates here.

[Aristus]

61. "Siberia off of Russia"?

???

:wtf:

This nut bag must think Siberia is an island or something, instead of a region in Russia
as large as the entire continental Unites States.

You shouldn't be allowed to draft geography into your racist screed if you don't
know geography.

When this dipshit kicks, I'm going to travel to NH for the specific purpose of pissing on his grave...

[Le Taz Hot]

69. People in NH voted in a 91-year old

legislator and THEY'RE supposed to be the political bellweather for the country? I see now how we ended up with Kerry in 2004.