Area protesters hit the streets this morning (Wisconsin)

[Joanne98]

Source: WFRV

NORTHEAST WIS. (WFRV) - Several rallies are going on in our area this morning regarding Governor Walker's proposed budget bill.

During rush hour this morning people will be protesting in Green Bay at the corner of Mason Street and Webster Avenue and also on the corner of Oneida Street and Lombardi Avenue.

Bay Port students are planning a walkout at 9 a.m. this morning to support their teachers. Between 9 a.m. and 9:30 a.m. people will gather at the Winnebago County Courthouse.

Appleton West students plan to walk out at 9:30 a.m. and head downtown to support school staff. At noon University of Wisconsin-Green Bay students will gather outside the union.



Read more: http://www.wfrv.com/news/local/Area-protesters-hit-the-streets-this-morning-116393089.html

[Le Taz Hot]

1. Does Al Jazeera English

have foreign correspondents in the U.S. to cover this 'cause it sure as hell won't be covered in the MSM -- except, of course, when the "anarchists" show up and start throwing rocks through windows.

I am SO hoping this will be a flash point.

[cognoscere]

21. Exactly. I'm thinking(hoping?) that between the people in WI,

Wikileaks, and Anonymous, it might finally be the time when the Have-nots of the world come together and realize how the Haves have been fucking them in the ass for so long...and then do something about it.

[RKP5637]

24. Yes, I'm quite sure AJZ does. We need help in the US for news coverage. Certainly

our corporate MSM is corrupted and controlled, and their agenda does not fit with the will of many Americans. We are one of the most propagandized nations on earth, many Americans just don't get what is going on. Spinning the channels here what is going on in WI gets scant coverage. And during the day most of the MSM is about as lame and inept as it gets.

Luckily we do have individuals like Ed Shultz, KO, Rachel Maddow, etc. that work to get news out on what is really going on.

[LiberalFighter]

2. They probably should have protests in front of their State Senator

and State Assembly person's house. More than likely a Republican.

[lunatica]

3. This needs to build in order to work

One day protests are simply not going to make any difference. The MSM ignored the massive countrywide and international anti-war marches during the Bush administration because they didn't affect anything. But they wouldn't have if the demonstrations were kept up for many days or even weeks.

Egypt showed us how it has to be done.

Gov. Walker has to be forced to deal publicly with the protesters. Right now he can just ignore them and therefore win this round. But if the pressure is kept up over a prolonged time the rest of the country will watch.

[Myrina]

5. ... it HAS been building ...

... just because it only crossed your radar with this story, doesn't mean its a 1-day event.

Teachers have been 'blu flu-ing' all week all over the state of WI and workers/union groups have gone to Madison to sit in at the state capitol and are also protesting and networking all over the state for at least a week now ...


:eyes:

[coalition_unwilling]

8. There needs to be a General Strike of all public sector employees

in Wisconsin now. You want to abrogate our collective bargaining agreements and rights? Fine, but then we workers shut the state down. No collective bargaining, no capitalism.

[ewagner]

10. Agree..

[ipfilter]

14. It's the only way.

Also, when workers don't work the state collects no income tax from their labor. Hit them where it hurts.

[GillesDeleuze]

17. TEAMSTERS need to say no deliveries in WI

until workers get their rights!

[CLANG]

34. I live in Madison, so it's been on my radar since day one

But what the previous poster said is basically right on. If next Monday everyone goes back to work, it's America The Status Quo. That's the difference between here and Egypt. Just like the Egyptians, it will have to get MUCH MUCH worse for Americans to risk what they have (and need to survive) for them to really fight.

I'm not happy about that, but I fear it is true.

[undeterred]

15. You need to pay attention in order to comment.

This is the 4th day.

[jwirr]

25. The protesters the first day refused to leave and slept in sleeping

bags in the rotunda of the capital. Also when the other unions joined them and the students came it was for at least 3 days. Now I agree that is not long enough but hopefully others will join them and continue coming. What people have not understood about protests is that they should always be organized to cause the most controlled chaos. In the sixties they just kept happening and lasted for days. In the recent past we have demonstrated on weekends so we can all go home to our responsibilities. What we forget is that the government more or less shuts down for the weekends. No one is being inconvenienced by our weekend protests.

I think the protesters in WI know what is needed. Do we have what it takes to keep it up. I live in MN and am wondering if we should not be there with them as this issue is going to come up in a lot of states. This is not just a WI problem. If he gets by with this bill it will hit all of us where it hurts the most.

[snappyturtle]

4. Ed Schultz will broadcast from Madison, WI this afternoon,,,,,,

maybe we'll hear more about these walkouts.

[fishwax]

20. excellent n/t

[CLANG]

35. His show is at 9pm Central - will he be live or is he recording it earlier in the day?

On edit: Maybe you were referring to his radio show which is being broadcast from the 92.1 the Mike studio.

[snappyturtle]

42. I'm not referring to the radio program...there's another OP on that:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=439&topic_id=439130&mesg_id=439247


:hi:

[YvonneCa]

36. Good. Don Lemon, on CNN this morning, started coverage...

...of WI...which made me hopeful. But then he spun it to education reform and interviewed a Charter School educator to get his opinion on Wisconsin. AWFUL!

[Kingofalldems]

6. K and R for Wisconsin

[Monique1]

7. Ed Shultz

will broadcrast from Wi both on radio and TV today

[seabeckind]

9. Yes!!

I looked for a worker's rights, solidarity avatar. I like the peace one but I'm not feeling real peaceful these days.

BTW, I REALLY did not like Obama's comments on it. I will never vote for a republican...and that includes him.

Never again. I think I'll be too busy to help out with his campaign next time.

[Greybnk48]

19. It was originally posted here out of context.

Several Duers have posted what he actually said and it was in support of the protesters. President Obama is on our side.

[Uncle Joe]

11. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread, Joanne.

[davidthegnome]

12. Sweet Jesus

It's hard to believe - to even grasp, how this could be happening in the modern USA. How a man like Walker could be doing so much damage and attempting to use the National Guard as a threat to quash any political dissent (WTF? in America?). Someone tell me why the white house isn't praising the protesters and why they don't already have strong words for Governor Walker? God damn. Does anyone know if there's a coordinated effort to bring in assistance from outside the state? I wish I could join in the protests as this is an issue close to my heart, even if I've never even been to Wisconsin. Should Walker's efforts succeed, it will encourage men like LePage to do the same thing here in Maine. They may even pull it off.

I know damn well that this assault is coming to a state near me - most likely my own state. Until that time comes though - I'd like to be wherever I'm most needed, where the push back is going on. If there's anything at all I can do to help, please let me know. I hate sitting here inactive while this battle is being fought.

[MJJP21]

22. IDAHO

Wisconsin is not the only state where this is going on. Check out Idaho as well. They just passed some very similar legislation. This seems to be an organized attack all across the country. Lets hope the AFL CIO recognize this for what it is and start to respond.

[murielm99]

23. Are they protesting?

They are passing this type of legislation in Ohio, too. I understand that they are protesting there. Of course, the traditional media is not covering it.

[davidthegnome]

26. Thanks, I'll check it out.

Wish I had more mobility so I could get out and help.

[LisaM]

30. He's not alone

There's a crop of new Republican governors who are setting out to cause damage to the working class people in their state.

[CLANG]

37. I can guarantee that the 'baggers are loading up busses right now.

[YvonneCa]

39. Your words: "Someone tell me why the white house isn't praising the protesters

... and why they don't already have strong words for Governor Walker?"

Because they are on the fence, and every time they try to get off on one side or another, their pants get caught. :7 Seriously. They have taken a position on education reform that is anti-union and anti-teacher. If they support the protestors in Wisconsin...they are at odds with that stance. If they support the Republican Governor, they just lost the national union vote.

So they stay on the fence. Lead, Mr. President. LEAD.

[AngryAmish]

13. Question: How much of a reduction in wages will this be to the average worker?

Will they go from $1,000 take home to $600?

[GillesDeleuze]

16. a public employee will generally see

a 6-12% reduction in take home

[AngryAmish]

18. that is pretty large

[CLANG]

38. Is that addition to the higher costs they will pay out-of-pocket for health care and pensions?

[mikeburetta]

29. collective bargaining

When the rights of workers in the public sector to organize and bargain for working conditions and benafits are challenged its only the first salvo. Next it will be the rest of us. A union contract is the only thing seperating you and me from a pink slip cuz the company felt like it! The 40 hr week, overtime, retirement, breaks, lunch periods all are because unions fought for them. If we turn our backs on that and let this bill go through how long till we make our workers third world workers.
Oh and another sneaky provission of this bill is to not deduct union dues from wages making union participation even harder. So if there is any question about union busting ..wrell as paul harvey says.."and now you know the rest of the story"

[YvonneCa]

41. EXACTLY. And...

...welcome to DU. :hi:

[murielm99]

31. Okay, my daughter and her roommate live in Madison.

Her roommate is a PhD student and a TA. If she were not already a dissertator, she would leave UW. They want to take her tuition rebates. She lives on about $900.00 per month. She teacher about thirty hours a week, and has her own work, her dissertation. If she has to pay more for her insurance, as well as losing the tuition rebates, she could be living on $500.00 to $600.00 per month.

My daughter is a public employee. She makes $30,000.00 per year. She lives very modestly. She has student loans, rent, a car payment. And she bought a nice used car, not a new one. She was driving my 1987 van for about a year until she could save her money.

My daughter will have between two and three hundred dollars more taken out of her check every month if this goes through. She will not be able to afford to live in Wisconsin any more, and she likes it there. Her work director met with them yesterday and told them that Walker did not control their budget. She would give everyone raises to cover the money they will be losing. That sounds nice, but I wonder. Where will all this money come from?

I don't want to tell you what my daughter's job is, because I don't want to get anyone in trouble through a public message board. But she and her roommate are both educated professionals who will leave the state. It may take time, but they are the type of people who will find jobs elsewhere. My daughter is 31, but she can come home. Or, she can live with her fiance or one of her siblings. But these ignorant teabaggers will cause a serious brain drain in their state. I guess that is what they want - ignorant, desperate people who will do as they are told.

[YvonneCa]

40. It's about collective bargaining, not $$$. n/t

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[mikeburetta]

28. protests in rice lake

Last night a large rally was held in Rice Lake WI. Demonstrators waved signs and chanted "no" and "kill the bill" along Main street from the bridge by the dam all the way to Market place on both sides of the street. Madison if it happens like this in rice lake think about it!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

44. Wow - this is amazing

could be the start of something big!

[sabrina 1]

32. It may be that people will have to help each other out from state to

state to stop these assaults on workers rights. Good for the people of Wisconsin, they have been great and I hope they keep it up, as their lying Governor is denying there are too many people against his 'ideas'.

[eowyn_of_rohan]

33. Middleton High School and I assume other Madison area H.S's are participating too

Among them, I am proud to say, is my dear nephew!

[eowyn_of_rohan]

43. TENS of THOUSANDS protest at the State Capitol

http://www.channel3000.com/localvideo/index.html?v=33683

http://www.thenation.com/blog/158609/more-10000-protest-move-wisconsins-dictator-governor-destroy-public-sector-unions


This is ENERGIZING thousands of young people today - I have goosebumps.