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Viva_La_Revolution (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:38 AM Original message |
China and Colombia announce 'alternative Panama Canal' |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:30 PM Response to Original message |
1. "Take that, you running dog yankee imperialists." - Chinombia |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 12:37 PM Response to Original message |
2. I imagine a dry canal isn't as efficient as a wet one. nt. |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. It's all the scraping and grinding that wears the hulls down. nt |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:18 PM Response to Reply #3 |
5. It also has to be downhill both ways |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:00 PM Response to Reply #5 |
18. They could speed up just before enterning. nt |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:03 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. And butter the hull |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
21. Okay... |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 05:20 PM Response to Reply #3 |
22. Too Funny!! |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. I believe this will probably be a major competitor; at the very least for the Canal. |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:20 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. Can't move freight on high speed rail |
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Uncle Joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:33 PM Response to Reply #6 |
8. Do you believe that technology will eventually overcome that barrier? n/t |
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AngryAmish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #8 |
15. High speed rail is a pretty mature technology |
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Bacchus39 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:37 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. the freight rail would unlikely be high speed. the distance traveled isn't that great |
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NuttyFluffers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 01:42 AM Response to Reply #6 |
36. Depends. Keyword 'projects'. Could mean mag-lev, which has no 'rail.' |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 05:01 PM Response to Reply #36 |
41. The speed on the line will be irrelevant; the cost of loading and unloading is everything |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:41 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. How much of the canal traffic originates in the U.S.? |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:25 PM Response to Original message |
7. Seems the cost of unloading and reloading would make it uneconmically viable. |
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Hosnon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:42 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. That's what I'm thinking. Not to mention having to ensure an empty ship on the other side. nt. |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 06:34 PM Response to Reply #7 |
25. It could be a game-changer, a new paradigm |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 04:29 PM Response to Reply #25 |
40. It would still be very hard to add in the loading/unloading/rail transport cost |
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ngant17 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 06:00 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Queuing the cargo wouldn't be difficult |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
9. The World Is Moving On Without Us |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:40 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. It's not our canal |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:43 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. Not Talking About the Panama Canal per se |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 01:47 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. "creating projects that foster international trade" |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 07:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
26. I guess we'll eventually see what a post-Manifest Destiny America looks like. |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 07:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
28. Thanks for Getting My Point. Others Seemed to Miss It. |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 09:18 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. The world has always done things without us |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:11 PM Response to Reply #29 |
30. Deleted message |
WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:17 PM Response to Reply #30 |
31. Pointing out where you are mistaken |
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Yavin4 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:46 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. For The Record |
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WatsonT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 10:05 AM Response to Reply #33 |
38. But what does that even mean? |
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Catherina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 08:35 AM Response to Reply #26 |
37. +1 n/t |
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ManiacJoe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 02:10 PM Response to Original message |
17. Will be interesting to see where they are proposing the new line. |
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L. Coyote (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 04:08 PM Response to Original message |
20. Someone call Fitzcarraldo |
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martymar64 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 07:10 PM Response to Reply #20 |
27. Or Aguirre! Either way Klaus Kinski can do it!!! |
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Old Troop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 05:24 PM Response to Original message |
23. Think of the employment possibilities... |
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Judi Lynn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 06:16 PM Response to Reply #23 |
24. Inspiring! And think of all the exercise they'll be getting! n/t |
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mitchtv (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-14-11 11:28 PM Response to Original message |
32. Buenaventura is on the Pacific |
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stevenleser (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 12:08 AM Response to Original message |
34. A couple of problems. First., Panama already has a rail system that skirts the canal. You can |
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Rex (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 12:16 AM Response to Original message |
35. It will be interesting to see the entire ship transported by rail. |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-15-11 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
39. Could be worse. |
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