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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:01 PM
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Yemen: Pro-Government Forces Attack Demonstrators
Edited on Fri Feb-11-11 11:01 PM by Turborama
Source: Human Rights Watch

FEBRUARY 11, 2011

(Sanaa) - Hundreds of men armed with knives, sticks, and assault rifles attacked anti-government protesters in Yemen's capital, Sanaa, as Yemeni security forces stood by, Human Rights Watch said today. Within an hour, the 1,000-plus protesters had been pushed from the square and at least 10 had been detained by security forces, Human Rights Watch said.

Human Rights Watch witnessed at least 10 army trucks carrying men in civilian clothing to Sanaa's Tahrir Square, where a crowd of around 1,000 Yemenis had been demonstrating in support of the historic changes in Egypt and against the Yemeni government. Hundreds of men, their arrival coordinated by uniformed security agents, attacked the anti-government protesters with knives and sticks, prompting the majority to flee.

"The Yemeni security forces have a duty to protect peaceful protesters" said Sarah Leah Whitson, Middle East director at Human Rights Watch. "In this case, security forces seem to have organized armed men to attack the protesters."

A few dozen anti-government demonstrators remained in the square, sitting on the street, but they too fled after being charged by hundreds of armed government supporters. Riot police with water cannons and teargas stood by during the disturbances, blocking off access to the square to everyone except the pro-government provocateurs. The crowds arrived and left in military vehicles, pick-up trucks, and jeeps used by the security forces.


Read more: http://www.hrw.org/en/news/2011/02/11/yemen-pro-government-forces-attack-demonstrators
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applegrove Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:31 PM
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1. It is so very hard for demonstrations to grow in power and magnitude when
government violence is unleashed upon them.
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SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:13 AM
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9. I know! It is heartbreaking to see &/or read about...Plus,
There is the idea that such protest could spread across the Middle East but I have serious doubts about that because the remaining dictators have been warned & are already taking steps to nip such protest in the bud unlike Tunisia & Egypt.

I heard some of these countries are already locking people up for trying to organize on Facebook...I guess Egyptian officials just waited a bit too long & clearly misplayed their hand several times...Other dictators have obviously learned from those so-called mistakes which will make it 1000 times more difficult for any other uprising to succeed.
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nadinbrzezinski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:55 PM
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2. It spreads but I have no idea what it will take in Yemen
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Alexander Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-11-11 11:56 PM
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3. First Tunisia, second Egypt, third Yemen.
Will there be a fourth?
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Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:17 AM
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4. Algeria has been going on for a while now...
A lot of details in this article and the links at the bottom: http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=439x132129
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 12:46 AM
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5. Here's a list of protest dates and countries
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 12:48 AM by Tx4obama
via The Rachel Maddow Show

Video - map and dates: http://on.msnbc.com/e2RhsV

Algeria - Tomorrow/Today - Thousands of police in position in center of Algerian capital to stop planned pro-democracy march - Al-Jazeera English http://bit.ly/f5eOz4

Syria - Tomorrow/Today
Bahrain - Monday
Iran - Monday
Libya - Thursday

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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 02:01 AM
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7. And #Morocco February 20th n/t
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 05:16 AM
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8. It's unlikely that the King of Morocco will fall, I opine.
Edited on Sat Feb-12-11 05:21 AM by Ghost Dog
But he will have to sweep out some of the more obvious corruption, and pass some of his own economic power on to more independent local capitalists, and even social groups such as cooperatives, and some of his political power to genuinely-elected parliamentarians, both conservative Islamic and secular socialist, becoming a less autocratic, more constitutional monarch, European-style.

The universities will become more free, and the jails less murky. Young people must be more free to set up their own businesses, to foment ther own economy and create their own jobs, without needing to have all the right "crony connections" as at present.

Morocco has always been different: more Berber, less Arab than others... As far as I can see it was never completely integrated into the Ottoman Empire, even. And this monarchy, having negotiated independence from French colonialism (Mohammed V), enjoys a certain degree of popular legitimacy, I'd say.

... The "Southern Provinces" / Western Sahara issue, though, is something else ...
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Tx4obama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 04:43 PM
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10. New news
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Alameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 08:11 PM
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12. Morocco never was part of the Ottoman Empire....
You are quite correct about the Western Sahara though....serious problems there.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polisario_Front
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Ghost Dog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Feb-13-11 05:31 AM
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13. That's a well-written article on the Western Sahara situation.
Eg. as regards the present position, ie. stand-off:

The Polisario is first and foremost a nationalist organization, whose main goal is the independence of Western Sahara. It has stated that ideological disputes should be left for a future democratic Western Sahara to deal with. It views itself as a "front" encompassing all political trends in Sahrawi society, and not as a political party. As a consequence, there is no party programme. However, the Sahrawi republic's constitution gives a hint of the movement's ideological context: in the early 1970s, Polisario adopted a vaguely socialist rhetoric, in line with most national liberation movements of the time, but this was eventually abandoned in favour of a non-politicized Sahrawi nationalism. By the late 1970s, references to socialism in the republic's constitution were removed, and by 1991, the Polisario was explicitly pro-free-market.

The Polisario has stated that it will, when Sahrawi self-determination has been achieved, either function as a party within the context of a multi-party system, or be completely disbanded. This is to be decided by a Polisario congress upon the achievement of Western Sahara's independence.

...

Polisario has denounced terrorism and attacks against civilians,<9><10> and sent condolences to Morocco after the 2003 Casablanca bombings. It describes its struggle as a "clean war of national liberation". Since 1989, when the cease-fire was first concluded, the movement has stated it will pursue its goal of Western Sahara's independence by peaceful means as long as Morocco complies with the cease-fire conditions, which include arranging a referendum on independence, while reserving the right to resume armed struggle if terms are breached in its view.


International law and the UN appear to recognise Western Sahara's right to independence following decolonisation by Spain, which had been present in the these lands "opposite the Canary Islands" since the 13th century at least, and in a 'modern Western' legal sense since The Treaty of Tordesillas in 1494 between Portugal's King Jaão and Isabel and Fernando of Spain. At the time Franco's moribund government unilateraly and precipitately relinquished responsibility for the territory in 1975, Western Sahara was an administratively fully-integrated Province of Spain, equal to any other in the Nation. It is understood, in fact, under international law that Spain should recognise it has a duty to seek to ensure a legal and peaceful transition of status of its ex-colony to a free and independent State, but this is a duty, under the de-facto shadow of French (with strong economic ties to Morocco) and US (with strong strategic interest in Morocco) diplomacy, that Spain appears to have a limited ability to perform.

From the, Northern, Morocco point of view, of course, these are ancestral lands of the people, the Berber tribes, of that part of the world since far back in time before Roman or any other Empire. The people of Southern Morocco and Western Sahara and Northern Mauritania are the same people, the same essential mixture of tribes. To the North of the Atlas Mountains, the true geographical-cultural dividing-line in Morocco, traditional as well as modern life-styles begin to change. From Marrakech and Agadir north through Casablanca, Rabat and Tangiers and east through Meknés and Nador and Fez a network of new highways connects these centers of quite rapid economic development and modernisation, including much irrigated agricultural development, taking advantage of the EU's special terms for access for Moroccan agricultural produce to its markets. In recent years, a lot of Morocco's newly-generated wealth (growth rates over 10% these last several years) has been invested in Western Sahara, where infrastructure and economic development projects (and much administrative overhead, often in the form of government-paid sinecures) are essentialy subsidised by the North. Migration has also been encouraged from the North into Western Sahara, with economic incentives paid. In this way Morocco seeks to consolidate its de facto presence and legitimacy in the South. It is to be noted that, it seems, the origins of the current (the latest in a long line of different) Royal Family of King Mohammed VI is in the South, and I have heard it said that if this King loses this opportunity to achieve sovereignty over the presently-occupied Western Sahara the Monarchy itself could fall.

What's at stake in Western Sahara and in the region, apart from the Sahrawi people's right to self-determination and Morocco's ancestral claims, monarchy and modern national pride? Well, economically there are rich fishing grounds on the Saharan Banks, and possible small oil and gas deposits on the continental shelf off the coast, and Western Sahara's phosphate mines are the world's largest source of this vital ingredient of the fertilizers that help feed the world, with Morocco providing two-thirds at present of the supply.

Longer-term, in the best of circumstances, I could foresee intelligent development of this whole region making use of its abundant solar energy. Agricultural development would be possible in controlled evnvironments, and desalination of the Atlantic's waters made feasible by harnessing solar energy in the desert and distributing it through local, regional and international grids - such as the Desertec project which, at the international level many people are already working on.

It is difficult to predict the immediate future, but there may be a return to guerilla war the way things are presently going. Polisario accepts that the option to choose autonomy under Moroccan sovereignty be included in the eventual UN-mandated Referendum, but Morocco does not accept that independence be an option. The absence of the independence option would render the referendum meaningless. It appears to be Morocco which most fears an unfavorable outcome.
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 01:43 AM
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6. Kick
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Uncle Joe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Feb-12-11 06:54 PM
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11. Kicked and recommended for democracy in Yemen.
Thanks for the thread, Turborama.
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