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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:17 PM
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Sen. Sanders: Pentagon paid billions to fraudsters
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 08:59 PM by kpete
Source: Raw Story/Agence France-Presse

Sen. Sanders: Pentagon paid billions to fraudsters

By Agence France-Presse
Wednesday, February 2nd, 2011 -- 5:36 pm


WASHINGTON — The US military paid $285 billion over three years to hundreds of military contractors that defrauded the Pentagon over the same stretch of time, a US senator charged Wednesday.

Brandishing a 45-page January 2011 US Department of Defense report on the issue, Independent Senator Bernie Sanders called for "far more vigorous enforcement" by the US military "to protect taxpayers from massive fraud."

"The sad truth is that virtually all of the major defense contractors in this country for years have been engaged in systemic fraudulent behavior, while receiving hundreds of billions of dollars of taxpayer money," he charged.

Sanders underlined that the report, which his office made public, showed that from 2007-2009 the Pentagon spent $270 billion on 91 contractors involved in fraud cases that yielded judgments of more than $1 million.



Read more: http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2011/02/sanders-pentagon-billions-fraudsters/



REPORT:
http://sanders.senate.gov/graphics/Defense_Fraud_Report1.pdf
more info here:
Senator Sanders staff summarized the findings of the report as follows:
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/2/2/940790/-Bernie-v.-Bulls**t-:-The-Pentagon-and-Fraud
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msongs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:21 PM
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1. steal a twinkie go to jail, steal $285 billion get more US contracts for never ending wars nt
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FiveGoodMen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:27 PM
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2. No fucking kidding!
:grr:
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:34 PM
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3. Jean Valjean stole a Twinkie?
(Sorry, couldn't resist. Too punchy from snow shoveling all day)

Go Bernie!
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:33 PM
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44. From an old biker magazine (Easyriders prison columm)
The law, in it's magnificent equanimity, forbids the rich as well as the poor from stealing bread, begging, and sleeping under bridges. Anatole France
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TxVietVet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 08:36 PM
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4. Haliburton????
Edited on Wed Feb-02-11 08:36 PM by TxVietVet
Kellogg-Brown and Root???????

WE, THE PEOPLE ALREADY KNEW THAT. :yoiks:
No one does anything about the thieving military industrial complex of crooks.
If someone starts to squawk about it, he'll soon be out of office.
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KoKo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:00 PM
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5. Paging Eric Holder...."Mr. Holder please come to the courtesy phone in the lounge"
So...what's going on here?
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 03:56 AM
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21. He's busy.
I'm sure somebody's growing a pot plant somewhere.
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:45 AM
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33. Ed Zackery
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ElsewheresDaughter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 09:58 AM
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29. He's busy busting union members and pety ahem mafiaosa's selling shit from car trunks in NJ & NY
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:48 AM
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35. A bit curious, no? nt
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molly77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 05:48 PM
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57. Eric Holder is also busy listening in on the phone conversations of anti war protesters.
Rounding them up. Going to trial. Hey , any white supremacists been investigated by the FBI? Or are they your kind of people?
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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:12 PM
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6. no surprise here n/t
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indepat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 09:20 PM
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7. It would seem the greatest collateral benefit resulting from pre-emptive war inures
to the sole benefit of contractors via excessive profits and outright fraud, but who's in this great land gives even a tiny diddle-dy-fuck since social security recipients can be screwed out of their earned and paid-for benefits to make up any short fall? Now is this not some kind of great way to run the country or what? :shrug:
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FailureToCommunicate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 08:50 AM
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28. Dozy sentence: "It would seem the greatest...
"It would seem the greatest collateral benefit resulting from pre-emptive war inures to the sole benefit of contractors via excessive profits and outright fraud, but who in this great land gives even a tiny diddle-dy-fuck since social security recipients can be screwed out of their earned and paid-for benefits to make up any short fall?"

+1!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:47 AM
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34. Imagine. We are still in Afghanistan
for no good or reasonable reason. And these fraudulent practices continue today.
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OwnedByFerrets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 10:25 PM
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8. But, but, but....the only fraud commited in the U.S.
is committed by medicare gramma's

just in case... :sarcasm:
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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:22 AM
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30. Don't forget the "welfare queens", too!
:sarcasm:
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 10:43 PM
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9. Can we get that back please?
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 10:51 PM
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10. When your country is effectively run.....
...by a Military-Industrial-Complex, such matters are but a trifle. A mere annoyance when viewed against the larger picture. A picture that seeks to overcome all previous empire declines such as with the Romans whose http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire#Overexpansion_and_inflation">financial over-extensions, debts and inflation rottened out the infrastructure at home. And its dependence upon http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Decline_of_the_Roman_Empire#Vegetius_on_military_decline">mercenaries and thugs to take the place of an army who was no longer willing to fight for corrupt politicians.

And so even now we wither away in Afghanistan -- the graveyard of modern empires -- we continue ignoring history and common sense. Throwing good money after bad while we talk of cutting back the benefits of law-abiding and tax-paying citizens at-home. I believe that we have reached a point where nothing short of an insurrection from within, or a revolution from without, will stop the course we are presently upon. Elections won't cut it any more. We can't vouch for the results anyway.

- And this is especially so since the corrupt judges of the Supreme Court have ruled that a piece paper is equivalent to that of a human being......

K&R
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 11:57 AM
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36. Yep. IGNORING the lessons of history makes them an inevitable
repeat.

Of course, nothing will be done because...

Because.


Police everywhere
Justice nowhere

K&R

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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 11:03 PM
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11. We have to DRAFT Bernie Sanders for president 2012 -- Who do you trust?
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OnyxCollie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 11:08 PM
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12. K&R. nt
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 11:09 PM
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13. Indictment. Trial. Recompense. n/t
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-02-11 11:33 PM
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14. One day every one of those motherfuckers will get caught.
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earcandle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:12 AM
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15. soon, my little dearie, very very soon.......
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 04:52 AM
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22. Apparenotly, though, getting caught does not mean jail, or even an end to your new govt contracts,
they probably don't care.
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disndat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:32 AM
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31. Like Mubarak in Egypt
thanks to WikiLeaks, Facebook and Twitter.
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AlbertCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:24 PM
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42. One day every one of those motherfuckers will get caught.
Edited on Thu Feb-03-11 01:25 PM by AlbertCat
You forgot the :sarcasm:

There's nothing, the law, karma, some god or the Power Rangers, to guarantee any of these crooks gets caught. This is not a Hollywood film, y'know. This is reality, where justice is not guaranteed.
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Initech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 07:11 PM
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61. The key words were "one day". I didn't forget the sarcasm icon.
I'm too optimistic to think it'll happen in my lifetime. :evilgrin:
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:27 AM
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16. Apparently white-collar crime is acceptable to the majority of Americans.
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Oldtimeralso Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:41 AM
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17. How About the 2.3 Trillion?
Rumsfeld held a press conference on September 10, 2001 to announce that the DOD could not account for 2.3 Trillion of our tax dollars.

www.youtube.com/watch?v=xU4GdHLUHwU
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:41 AM
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18. For the last 10 years the repugs in government have systematically
ripped off any money they could get their hands on - why should we be surprised that the contract buddies would be part of it? The people who made the contracts no doubt got some pretty hefty kick backs in the deals. Military spending is the only kind of government expense that we buy a lot of things that we hope never to use and the give us no return for our money. As far as I am concerned the only thing we get out of military spending is the wages that the soldiers get paid. That at least contributes something usable to the economy.


NOTE: This was an argument that I heard when I was in college in the 70s and I may not have stated it clearly.
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Kurovski Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:34 AM
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19. K&R. (nt)
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grahamhgreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:46 AM
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20. Kick
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 07:22 AM
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23. And I'll bet Senator Sanders will be the only one asking for any of the money back. Disgusting.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 08:47 AM
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27. The others have already been receiving it ...
... as a reward for keeping the fraudulent situation a going concern ...

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Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 03:07 PM
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48. True, but in all fairness to the rest of our elected representatives...
The vast majority of them are probably either friends with those who profit from DoD fraud, hold stock in those very same companies, campaign using money from said fraudsters or expect to be working in the MIC when they leave office. (or some combination of)
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Quantess Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 07:27 AM
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24. I ♥ Bernie Sanders.
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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 08:04 AM
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25. We want the money back!
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KansDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 03:17 PM
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49. Really! A quarter of a trillion dollars will do wonders to shrink the deficit.
Also tax the rich and end the wars, too! Call Congress! Right ........ now!!!
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Overseas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 08:23 AM
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26. Here's a contractor fraud database link
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 10:43 AM
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32. Enforcement would require
investigations. We only vestigate blow jobs round hea.
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:28 PM
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37. War is a racket....k and r
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Aleric Donating Member (278 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 12:37 PM
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38. Government agencies are complicit
I've worked on two government contracts in the last few years. In one case the government agency dragged the project for 8 years preventing it from succeeding and finally pulled the plug when the administration change provided it with political cover. And this was their third attempt in 20 years to do something that the contractor advised they buy off-the-shelf in the first place.

In another instance, I sat at a military base for TWO MONTHS waiting for a computer so that I could simply DO the job I was being paid for.

I really hope I never have to take another government job again.

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on point Donating Member (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:07 PM
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39. I know where repukes can look for fraud, waste and abuse...
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:22 PM
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40. How much could we save by cutting off corporate welfare through the DoD?
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yurbud Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:23 PM
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41. Randi Rhodes had best solution: when troops are in combat, defense contracts switch to cost ONLY and
all their execs are placed on the military pay scale.

How often would we have wars with a law like that?
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:25 PM
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43. Now if we could only get some of the money back.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:40 PM
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45. Lets focus instead on those mythical single black mothers driving around in Cadillacs...
... why is Sen Sanders going against the patriotic defense vendors? America is the land of freedom to do business and ingenuity, and now Sen Sanders wants to penalize these highly successful business folk just for the "minor" detail that their developed a business plan centered around defrauding tax dollars from the defense department. I think he is doing this out of spite and jealousy.


These people are hated just because they are rich. Granted all that money came from the tax payers, and technically they're sucking off the public tit. But they "earned" all those dollars each day while they were pulling themselves by their own bootstraps.
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liberation Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 01:40 PM
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46. Lets focus instead on those mythical single black mothers driving around in Cadillacs...
Edited on Thu Feb-03-11 01:44 PM by liberation
... why is Sen Sanders going against the patriotic defense vendors? America is the land of freedom to do business and ingenuity, and now Sen Sanders wants to penalize these highly successful business folk just for the "minor" detail that their developed a business plan centered around defrauding tax dollars from the defense department. I think he is doing this out of spite and jealousy.


These people are hated just because they are rich. Granted all that money came from the tax payers, and technically they're sucking off the public tit. But they "earned" all those dollars each day while they were pulling themselves by their own bootstraps. Because remember: it is only welfare and an entitlement if it involves poor minority individuals. When rich people defraud orders of magnitude more tax dollars, it is called a "business plan." And it is like totally OK then.
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loudsue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 02:47 PM
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47. This pisses me off more than anyone will ever be able to know.
FOR SO MANY REASONS!!!

First, if the fucking teabaggers are so concerned about someone getting something they aren't getting, and they're so concerned with mismanagement in Washington, why in the hell don't they focus on this?? It's STEALING BY CROOKS five times what it would cost to provide medical care to everyone. It's thievery. Plain and simple. They could even keep their tax breaks for their extremely wealthy idols in the upper class if we just had the money that the Pentagon's good-ole-boy contractors STEAL in one year.

Our schools are being torn apart. Our infrastructure is crumbling. And the pentagon is doing worse than what Wall Street is doing in STEALING taxpayer dollars.

I'm SICK OF IT!!!
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Plucketeer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 03:38 PM
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50. Sadly,
the Egyptians have more "cahones" than we do. Of course, they have the pyramids to brag about - while we only have pyramid schemes to brag about!
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GreenTea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 04:12 PM
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51. These are the same republicans corporate theives who scream "America, Love it or Leave it" as they
fleece Americans in the bullshit name of "fighting terrorism".

When in reality these lying filthy greedy republican corporatist bastards are just lining their own pockets.... getting everyone to go along blindly with their bullshit patriotism as they rob our country blind.

And are exactly the first ones to be be against health care for all and every other social safety-net program.

These greedy self-serving republican corporate bastards want all our tax dollars for themselves as they deceitfully get government contracts they never intend to for-fill and haven't!
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saras Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 04:15 PM
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52. What we COULD do...
Even more important than putting the perps in jail is TAKING THE MONEY BACK.
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TatonkaJames Donating Member (502 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 04:36 PM
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53. What's the sense ?
Nearly everyone is corrupt in government and forget contractors dealing with it,
they are worse. They will do what they want, and until we the people are at our
breaking point like we see these days in Egypt, it will cost the taxpayers money
and make the rich and politicians wealthier.
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 04:58 PM
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54. I didn't realize the Pentagon paid anybody else BUT fraudsters!
Whadya think? They're in business to help US?





Whoa. whatta concept.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 05:01 PM
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55. the republicon crusade for profit
ptoooey
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indimuse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 05:13 PM
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56. WHY DO WE FIGHT?
We don't...THEY DO! It needs to STOP! They CREATE WAR..It is their *Business*..without it they'd be broke and POWERLESS! Just like us...
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Swampguana Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 05:49 PM
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58. Kick
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lobodons Donating Member (448 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 06:06 PM
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59. Issa should look into this
Issa should spend one of his kabillion hearings on this. Billions of $$ is a lot of money.
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L0oniX Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-03-11 06:58 PM
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60. Gee TC how do we reduce the deficit? DUH! Problem is that a lot of congress critters hold stocks...
with some of these corporate fraudsters. No wonder they won't cut the pentagon budget.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Feb-04-11 10:00 AM
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62. Kick. nt
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