Nader fails to make Oregon ballot.

[brainoverload]

<snip>

Independent presidential hopeful Ralph Nader failed to qualify for Oregon's ballot on Monday night when fewer than 1,000 people showed up at a Portland gathering to sign their names to petitions, but Nader aides said he would try again

http://www.kgw.com/news-local/stories/kgw_040504_politics_nader_signatures.f63f55f8.html

So much for Nader only trying to get on ballots of non-swing states. The difference in Oregon in 2000 was about 7000 more for Gore. I'm glad to see the liberal Portland,OR crowd not buying into Nader in 2004. In fact on the noon news there was a spot showing a bunch of 2000 Nader voters pleading with people not to sign Nader's petition.

[fearnobush]

1. *uck Nader.

He'd rather walk his own supporters to the death camps than seek ego deflation therapy.

[sendero]

38. LOL...

.... now that is funny :)

[MUAD_DIB]

2. It couldn't happen to a nicer guy.

[Robbien]

3. Has Nader been able to get on any state ballot so far? . eom

[brainoverload]

8. double slam for Nader

It says in the article that Nader deliberately chose Oregon to be the first state he qualified for since he got 5% support there in 2000 and the bar for getting on the ballot is set so low (1000 signatures at one time or 15000 signatures over time). So his jump start to his candidacy was a big fizzle. Go Ralph - keep on moving right out the door.

[LiberalFighter]

18. The 1000 was required in a party convention...

otherwise Nader would need to obtain 15,000 some signatures by July.

The 1000 should had been an easier goal to accomplish IF IF IF their base support was there. Must NOT NOT NOT have that base support. I wonder if his supporters have the energy to get those signatures now.

[brainoverload]

20. nope

Sorry - but you're wrong. If over 1,000 had shown up at the rally and signed the petition he would have made the ballot.

On edit <snip>

Backers of Ralph Nader meet in Portland Monday night at the Roseland Theater.

They will try to gather the signatures of one-thousand voters to get Nader on the presidential ballot. If they succeed, Oregon will be the first state to qualify an independent candidate.

Past support for Nader in Oregon leaves little doubt that the drive will be successful.


http://www.katu.com/news/story.asp?ID=66024

Don't you love that last sentence in hindsight?

[LiberalFighter]

46. Qualification as assembly of electors

249.722 Time for filing certificate; filing officers.

• Except as provided in subsection (3) of this section, a certificate of nomination of a candidate for public office shall be filed not sooner than the 415th day and not later than the 70th day before the date of the general election.
  
• A certificate of nomination of a candidate for:
  
  • State office, United States Senator or Representative in Congress shall be filed with the Secretary of State.
    
  • County office shall be filed with the county clerk.
    
  • City office shall be filed with the chief city elections officer.
  
  
• For a special election, including an election to fill a vacancy that occurs after the 70th day before the general election, the Secretary of State by rule may adopt a schedule specifying the period within which a certificate of nomination must be filed. If the Secretary of State does not adopt a rule under this subsection, a certificate of nomination must be filed before the 61st day preceding the election.
  

249.735 Qualification as assembly of electors; records; notice; nomination by assembly.

• An assembly of electors is an organized body:
  
  • Of not fewer than 1,000 electors of the state for a statewide nomination.
    
  • Of not fewer than 500 electors of the congressional district for which the nomination for Representative in Congress is made.
    
  • Of not fewer than 250 electors of the county or any other district for which the nomination is made.
  
  
• An assembly of electors shall nominate candidates at a nominating convention. The convention shall be held in one day and last not longer than 12 hours. The signature, printed name and residence mailing address of each member of the assembly shall be recorded at the convention and entered of record in the minutes by the secretary of the assembly. Not less than the minimum number of electors required to constitute an assembly of electors shall have recorded their signatures in the minutes of the assembly and must be present when the assembly nominates a candidate. The candidate receiving the highest number of votes of the assembly for the office shall be the nominee of the assembly.
  
• Not later than the 10th day before the meeting of an assembly of electors, notice shall be published at least once in not less than three newspapers of general circulation within the electoral district for which the nomination will be made. The notice shall contain the time and place the assembly will meet, the office or offices for which nominations will be made, and the names and addresses of not fewer than 25 electors qualified to vote in the assembly who desire that it be held.
  
• Proof of publication of notice in subsection (3) of this section shall be made by affidavit of the owner, editor, publisher, manager, advertising manager, principal clerk of any of them, or the printer or printer’s foreman of the newspaper in which the notice is published. The affidavit shall show publication and shall be filed with the filing officer with the certificate of nomination.
  
• Not later than the 10th day before the meeting of an assembly of electors, a copy of the notice under subsection (3) of this section shall be delivered to the filing officer who will supervise the conduct of the nominating convention.
  
• The presiding officer of an assembly of electors shall deliver the signatures of assembly members entered in the minutes to the appropriate county clerks of the counties in which the assembly members live. The signatures shall be certified by the appropriate county clerk under ORS 249.008. A copy of the minutes, certified by the secretary of the assembly, and the certificate of the county clerk shall be filed with the filing officer with the certificate of nomination.
  
• If the assembly of electors designates a committee to whom the assembly delegated the authority to fill vacancies as provided in ORS 249.842, a notice containing the names of the members of the committee shall be delivered to the filing officer with the certificate of nomination.
  
  Source

[Mattforclark]

4. Yay!

Keep it up, Ralph.

[Blaze Diem]

5. Doesn't Nader have to be on the ballot in all states

...to be a legitimate contender? Hopefully there will be many more states ready to send Nader this same message.

Funny scenario, ex Nader voters out there trying to convince the few hold overs to change their minds.

I really believe when the election results are all tallied Bush will be soundly defeated. I would guess there are many voters out there who are remaining silent about there distate for the misery Bush has brought to Planet Earth.
Now, about those paperless voting machines....

[DieboldMustDie]

11. Nader's NOT going to be a legitimate contender...

even if he is on the ballot in all states. The danger is of his being a spoiler.

[patricia92243]

17. He was not on NC ballot last time, but he sure did a lot of harm

[Rationality]

32. I would argue yes

In 2000, he wasn't in Indiana, Georgia, and I think South Carolina or was it another state?

But he doesn't need to be in every state to have an impact, as we saw then.

[mot78]

43. He only needs to be on the ballot in swing states to hurt Kerry

We need to stop him from getting on swing state ballots.

[Fenris]

6. It's hard to say anything bad about Nader

Now that he has become rather pathetic. It makes me kind of sad, like the way one feels about someone in the early stages of senility.

[countmyvote4real]

9. You're right. Sad, but true. Timing is everything & he's out of sync

eom

[sendero]

39. That's unfair to folks with Alzheimers

Nader chose his actions and made his own bed. People with alzheimer's simply had the bad luck to contract a horrible disease.

[bluestateguy]

7. In the words of Nelson Muntz...

HA-HA!!!!

[Sandpiper]

10. It seems like Ralph now has

Joementum. :-)

[jayfish]

12. Get Out Now Ralph! -NT-

Jay

[Daisey Mae]

13. Mega Dildos Ralph

you are very very senile or evil

[Rowdyboy]

14. Hail Sandpiper! "Nader has Joementum!"

What a pathetic piece of shit. I respected Ralph Nader during most of my adult life. From the early 1970's through 1999 he served his country well. Since then, he has been a filthy leech. My respect has turned to disgust.

A good life wasted.

[jsw_81]

15. This is very encouraging news

If Nader can't get a measly 1000 signatures in liberal Oregon, he's in serious trouble; he'll be lucky to get one percent of the vote this fall.

[drumwolf]

16. Not surprising to me at all.

Completely putting aside the fact that * has been a total disaster for this country and this election is absolutely crucial, in general insurgent third-party candidates tend not to do so well in second/third runs for office. Look at Perot in 1996 and Pat Buchanan in 2000. Hopefully, Nader will have the same luck this year as the aforementioned two.

[pa28]

19. Good: Oregon could be a battleground state.

Too bad we should have to worry about such things when beating Bush gives enough to worry about.

[huellewig]

21. This Move..

He pissed me off by running again. But I think he thinks Bush and Kerry are the same thing. I somewhat agree. "The only difference is the velocity their knees hit the ground." They are both companies. I don't like either of them. I would vote for Nader again if this wasn't so damn important to get Bush out.

[bobbyboucher]

22. Nader is not the enemy.

Bush is the enemy. Don't alienate the Nader voters and you will win. Attack them, accuse them, blame them and you will lose.

IMO

[w4rma]

26. He's trying to pull voters away from Dems, correct?

You tell me how that isn't an enemy. (notice I said "an", not "the" enemy)

[Guaranteed]

27. Yeah...he's stealing all these votes that belong to Kerry!

Those are KERRY'S votes (after all, he EARNED them.)

[Dr Fate]

30. Nader has to earn his way too...

...he's just not getting that same surge of support like he had 4 years ago. Its just not happening....

[Dr Fate]

31. Greens are always attacking Democrats though...

we dont need the media, the GOP AND Greens attacking Democrats all at once...

Anyone attacking Kerry is technically an "enemy", at least in a political sense...

[Old and In the Way]

34. Apparently, there aren't any Nader voters.......that's the whole point of

post. At the risk of alienating you, Bobby, I will not say that Ralph's time has come......and gone.

[Guaranteed]

23. Yay! Screw Democracy!

I want OUR team to win!!

[Dr Fate]

25. Democracy is all about choice, and no one is choosing Ralph this time.

No one showed up. All the people from 4 years ago did not come back.

Perhaps he'll do better in 2008 or 2012.

Democracy is a bitch, but that does not mean I'm gonna screw it.

[Guaranteed]

28. If no one's going to vote for him, why not put him on the ballot?

Why not give everyone a chance to actually make the choice of whether or not they're going to cast a vote for him?

[Dr Fate]

29. Because he could not get the required minimum signatures?

He did not have this problem 4 years ago.

It's not like anyone who would have supported his ticket did not have notice-he has been all over the media- in fact, the article says his former supporters discouraged people from signing it.

It looks like concerned people did the right thing.

The people have spoken.

[Guaranteed]

35. "It looks like concerned people did the right thing."

See? THERE you are confusing the issue.

You're saying that it's the RIGHT THING not to have Nader on the ballot- independent of signatures- and THUS people would not sign his petition.

Now, return to and re-read my previous post on this thread line.

[Media_Lies_Daily]

40. Sounds like the people of Oregon weren't confused by...

...Nader in the least.

Good for them, and good for the Democrats.

And by the way...this is the way a REAL Democracy works...the people choose, or not choose, the individuals they want to have represent them in government.

[Rationality]

33. Why not put every American on the ballot if they pay the filing fees (n/t)

[Kahuna]

37. Why not put *me* on the ballot? And you, and Dr. Fate, and..

all of us? How about that?

[Media_Lies_Daily]

41. That's already been done. Just in case you hadn't noticed,...

...the NeoCons took over in December 2000 in a bloodless coup, thanks in no small part to the efforts of their fellow-traveller, Ralph "I would vote for Bush" Nader.

[Chicago Democrat]

24. HA HA!

[Triana]

36. bye Ralph...

...don't let the ballot box fall on you on the way out the door

[Generator]

42. Get outa here Mr. spoiler we're smarter than you

I was so happy I about fell outa bed last night. I am so proud of my neighbors. Oregon is split liberal/conservative. But the liberal side of the state has the majority population. I think it's funny Bushie is spending $$ on ads here. It is NOT going to be close like last time, and need I remind them, Oregon went for Gore even with Nader last time.

[GregW]

44. Woohoo! Get the heck outta my state, Ralphie

Go suck on a tailpipe somewhere else.

[robbedvoter]

45. But, but, but...millions need him as their choice, I tell ya!

ha!Ha! I said it all along - he is but a joke this time around.
Ignore.

[Crachet2004]

47. About what I figured...how much more abuse can his colossal ego take?

Not much I'll bet. Soon, he will bow out, for the 'good of the progressive cause'. Yeah right.

I'm waiting for a picture of Ralph with creme pie dripping off his face to be plastered all across the globe. That would finish him. No way could that great man continue on with that picture on posters to greet him, everywhere he went.

There is no good in him.

[saoirse]

48. Oregon isn't really a swing state

I should know - I live there. It's blue, and getting bluer all the time.

Granted, Gore's margin of victory was small thanks to all the Nader votes, but there's no way in hell Bush would even win Oregon. There is a long tradition of moderate Republicans like Mark Hatfield here, but that's now a thing of the past as the GOP has been hijacked by extremists just like everywhere else. Bush marketed himself as a moderate, the economy was good, so he managed to get a good deal of votes in Oregon. Now our unemployment is THE worst in the country, and Bush has long been exposed as the right-wing fanatic he is, so he'd be very lucky to get in the high forty percent range.

And, even given that, I find the numbers from Oregon in the 2000 presidential election to be highly suspect. If anyone here actually DID vote for Bush, they're sure as hell not admitting it.

[brainoverload]

51. half of Oregon is blue

Hmmm... either you haven't long lived in Oregon or you just recently started paying attention. While it's true that the majority of the Portland metropolitan area and a few other locations are as liberal as you'll find it is equally true that the other half of the state is full of hard-core scary-assed right-winged Jesus-justification-driven half-wits.

Have you never witnessed the train wreck known as the Oregon legislature? Have you not noticed the state's educational and health and human service divisions being flushed down the toilet by the voters passing tax decreases in an age that calls for tax increases?

Have you not been here during the several times we have had to vote on whether or not we should ban "promotion of homosexuality" in the schools? Did you not see on the news last night the convention of over 2000 Oregon pastors freaking out over gay marriage - this on the same night that Ralph couldn't even draw 800 to his event?

I, like you, know no one (well) who doesn't hold bush in total contempt. Thank Goodness I live in Portland and not in one of the 75% of the counties that have been red in every election that has occurred in the 25 years I've lived in Oregon.

[Piperay]

49. Goody...

BIG shit eating grin here. :D

[bushisanidiot]

50. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!

I hope the repukes donated LOTS AND LOTS of their hard earned money to back him too!

I can't stop laughing!