Marshall seeks to ban gays from Virginia National Guard

[mahatmakanejeeves]

Source: Washington Post

Posted at 9:00 AM ET, 12/20/2010
Marshall seeks to ban gays from Virginia National Guard
By Anita Kumar

Following this weekend's vote by the Senate to allow gays to openly serve in the military, Del. Bob Marshall (R-Prince WIlliam) said he is drafting a bill for the 2011 legislative session that would ban them from serving in the Virginia National Guard.

"This policy will weaken military recruitment and retention, and will increase pressure for a military draft,'' Marshall said. "After 232 years of prohibiting active, open homosexuals from enlisting in our military, President Obama and a majority in Congress are conducting a social experiment with our troops and our national security...In countries where religions and cultures find homosexual acts immoral, the Obama administration's repeal policy will work to the detriment of all American troops in securing local cooperation with our nation's foreign policy goals."

The Senate's vote to repeal the 17-year-old federal ''don't ask, don't tell' policy came a week after the House approved it. President Obama has said he will sign the bill.

Marshall, who is considering running for U.S. Senate in 2012, is one of the House's most conservative members. He said Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16 of the Constitution gives Virginia the authority to uphold the ban by "reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."

Read more: http://voices.washingtonpost.com/virginiapolitics/2010/12/following_this_weekends_vote_b.html

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Hat tip to Joe.My.God

Count on Marshall's BFF Ken Cuccinelli to think this is a great idea.

Sheesh, I'm getting tired of paying for these people.

[zipplewrath]

1. They'll lose funding

The feds pay the states big bucks to organize their guards the way the feds want. The feds write the rules because they pay the bills.

[nadinbrzezinski]

2. Ah here we go, and not exactly what I expected it over

this is a states rights issue, this is a states rights issue....

So was slavery... and why this has definite echoes.

[fascisthunter]

3. they are so obviously deranged it amazes me sometimes

at how far they will go with their own neurosis, rather than seek help for themselves... these idiots live in a hell they created for themselves, to be this obsessed with sexuality shows how fucked up they are and they don't even realize it.

[northzax]

47. indeed. I am fearful that this is were a faction of deadenders

will make their stand. I expect some turmoil, both within the Armed Services and from without, mostly inspired by angry rants from armchair warriors. This too shall pass, and we shall be better for casting it aside.

[rocktivity]

4. Then it's time for commander in chief Obama to ban Mr. Marahall.

:headbang:
rocktivity

[qb]

5. What an idiot. "training the militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress."

Congress just prescribed non-discrimination.

[Demoiselle]

9. UH, yeah, that phrase jumped out a me, too...

Moronic. Absolutely moronic. (But then, what else is new?)

[HopeHoops]

6. That's a stupid beyond fixing.

:hurts:

[Lithos]

7. Bob Marshall (R-Homophobe)

...

[Lord Magus]

8. R-Homophobe? That's what's called an oxymoron.

Not to mention, just a moron.

[safeinOhio]

10. Another R-Homophobe

I want to see hooked up to the "gay peter meter" and shown gay porn.
:puke:

[Lithos]

12. I can't quite make that an automatic

Secretary Gates, Snowe and I think the other Senator for Maine are three who supported the repeal. But, definitely any of the teabagger persuasion are....

L-

[tblue37]

22. *Not* an oxymoron--a redundancy. An oxymoron is a

contradiction in terms (e.g., "icy hot"), but "R" does NOT contradict "homophobe," it merely repeats it (which is why it is a redundancy).

[Lord Magus]

24. Whoops.

You're right.

[swimboy]

11. :facepalm:

and :heavysigh:

[rasputin1952]

13. He can draft all of the legislation he wants...

ultimately, the National Guard falls under federal regulations and laws. This will go nowhere once it is brought up that federal funding to maintain the NG for the state will dry up. VA cannot afford to fund the VaNG on it's own, not to mention that it is illegal to do so, since they can be federalized at any time. This is insanity at it's best and should cost this idiot his job.

[Blue_Tires]

28. he's just trying to score cheap political points with the bigot base

it's the Virginia way...

[pasto76]

14. This is Palin-esque logic; when she claimed she was the "commander" of the AKNG

and she is not. a Brigadier General is in command of each state. The governor can authorize FUNDING to deploy NG into the state...But that 1 star still wears a US ARMY uniform.

[xxqqqzme]

15. "...who is considering running for U.S. Senate in 2012..."

starting that campaign NOW. Making his name known to the rabid rethug base.

[tomm2thumbs]

16. apparently 'Marshall' has made himself 'Sheriff'

however, I will simply call him 'Deputy Dipsh*t'

[plantwomyn]

17. While her flipped through the Constitution and found

Article 1, Section 8, Clause 16
To provide for organizing, arming, and disciplining, the Militia, and for governing such Part of them as may be employed in the Service of the United States, reserving to the States respectively, the Appointment of the Officers, and the Authority of training the Militia according to the discipline prescribed by Congress.

Rep. Marshall went right past this:
Article 1, Section 8, Clause 15
To provide for calling forth the Militia to execute the Laws of the Union, suppress Insurrections and repel Invasions;
So shall we call forth the Militia to suppress Mr. Marshall's insurrection?

No need:
Since the Militia Act of 1903 all National Guard soldiers have held dual status: as National Guardsmen under the authority of the governor of their state and as a reserve of the U.S. Army under the authority of the President.

The Commander and Chief trumps Gov. Ken Cuccinelli. Unless Marshall and Cuccinelli want to pony up the money for their own State Militia, they can just STFU. The fact is that the National Guard AND their posts within every state are U.S. Army/Air Force property, to be ruled and used as the Commander and Chief sees fit.

[SoapBox]

18. The Haters keep on Hating!

...they just can't get over it.

Hating the Homos is their meal ticket to money, POWER and CONTROL of the weak-minded masses.

These losers don't have a clue about Gay and Lesbian AMERICANS.

They just use folks as a talking point to keep control...FEAR, is key for the Haters.

...there are MILLIONS of Gay and Lesbian persons in the world. Period.

...Gay and Lesbian persons have existed FOREVER. Period.

...you canNOT Legislate-The-Gay-Away. Period.

Wake Up America!

[Crowman1979]

19. The Teabaggers are gonna start squawking out....

....BAWK STATES RIGHTS! STATES RIGHTS! BAWK

[Tx4obama]

20. National Guard is a federal military unit subject to the same rules as other federal military units

Excerpt:

SNIP

Claire Gastanaga, legislative counsel for Equality Virginia, a gay-rights group, said the National Guard is a federal military unit subject to the same rules as other federal military units and that “any state statute seeking to set different standards for the Virginia National Guard would be a nullity with no effect.”

http://www.alan.com/2010/12/20/virginia-lawmaker-wants-to-ban-active-homosexuals-from-serving-in-national-guard/

[Ian David]

21. That's fine with me. We just let Virgina fall to the first foreign enemy that wants to invade it. nt

[Piggy56]

23. Bob Marshall is a mega bigot.

He must be defeated.

[underpants]

25. He is a joke. I have heard him on local RW radio and he is all posture

What dumb idea. Well.... he is a Virginia Republican so what should I expect?

[forty6]

26. How about we draft a regulation for VA that bans bigots from being in the

VA Delegate House?

That would solve the problem for us and him!

[jmowreader]

27. A blast from our past

I'm certain someone said this...

"This policy will weaken military recruitment and retention, and will increase pressure for a military draft," Senator Phogbound said. "After 172 years of prohibiting Negroes from serving in all-white military units, President Truman and a majority in Congress are conducting a social experiment with our troops and our national security...In countries where religions and cultures find Negroes immoral, the Truman administration's integration policy will work to the detriment of all American troops in securing local cooperation with our nation's foreign policy goals."

[Johnny Harpo]

29. Maybe Old Bob Should Watch This Episode Of The West Wing......

"The West Wing: Let Bartlet Be Bartlet (#1.19)" (2000)

Major Tate: Sir, we're not prejudiced toward homosexuals.

Admiral Percy Fitzwallace: You just don't want to see them serving in the Armed Forces?

Major Tate: No sir, I don't.

Admiral Percy Fitzwallace: 'Cause they impose a threat to unit discipline and cohesion.

Major Tate: Yes, sir.

Admiral Percy Fitzwallace: That's what I think, too. I also think the military wasn't designed to be an instrument of social change.

Major Tate: Yes, sir.

Admiral Percy Fitzwallace: The problem with that is that's what they were saying about me 50 years ago - blacks shouldn't serve with whites. It would disrupt the unit. You know what? It did disrupt the unit. The unit got over it. The unit changed. I'm an admiral in the U.S. Navy and Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff... Beat that with a stick.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

30. McDonnell: Va. National Guard should follow 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal

McDonnell: Va. National Guard should follow 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal

Posted at 5:35 PM ET, 12/20/2010
McDonnell: Va. National Guard should follow 'don't ask, don't tell' repeal
By Anita Kumar

Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R) said through a spokesman late Monday that he opposes Congress's repeal of the military's "don't ask, don't tell" policy but expects to allow gays to openly serve in the Virginia National Guard.

The remarks came after Del. Bob Marshall (R-Prince WIlliam) said he is drafting a bill for the 2011 legislative session that would ban gays from openly serving in the Virginia National Guard.

[Arkana]

44. I suppose I'll give McDonnell credit for respecting the law of the land.

I shouldn't have to, though, seeing as how THAT'S HIS FUCKING JOB.

[OKNancy]

31. kick

[savalez]

32. Gov. McDonnell Says No Way To New DADT For Va. National Guard

Source: TPM

A state lawmaker from Virginia is so upset about the Congress repealing Don't Ask, Don't Tell that he wants to institute a mini-DADT banning gay men and lesbians from the Virginia National Guard.

"It's a distraction when I'm on the battlefield and have to concentrate on the enemy 600 yards away and I'm worried about this guy whose got eyes on me," the lawmaker, Delegate Bob Marshall (R), told WUSA9. "If I needed a blood transfusion and the guy next to me had committed sodomy 14 times in the last month I'd be worried."

Read more: http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2010/12/gov_mcdonnell_says_no_way_to_gay_ban_in_va_nationa.php?ref=fpa

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The numskull thinks rather highly of himself. How do these people get elected to office?

[Swede]

33. He must be one handsome bigot.

nt

[Happyhippychick]

34. Why do these assholes think that they are the least bit appealing to anyone?

[CurtEastPoint]

35. What a freakin tool. Like he would have had anything to worry about...

[arcane1]

36. Yes, because "this guy" won't ALSO be thinking about the enemy??

Seriously, people actually BELIEVE these fools????

[Drale]

37. Didn' t a federal judge technically rule DADT unconstitutional?

there for states can not enact a DADT law correct?

[Tx4obama]

38. The important part of the article, below

Marshall says he's working on legislation to institute a DADT-style state law. His authority to do so, he claims, comes from the clause of the U.S. Constitution which reads, "reserving to the states respectively, the appointment of the officers, and the authority of training the militia."

But Virginia Gov. Bob McDonnell (R), who has the authority to deploy the state National Guard in a state emergency, says no way.

"Whatever the final guidelines are from the Department of the Defense, I expect the Virginia National Guard Bureau to adhere to them," McDonnell said during a WTOP radio show today.

[Hawkeye-X]

41. I just hope McDumbass smacks his crony and told him to shut up

and deal with teh GAYS!

[EFerrari]

39. Rec for visibility.

[Hawkeye-X]

40. Please ban all Republicans from existing in this plane. Send them to the opposite plane..

Thanks!

[mahatmakanejeeves]

46. "I'm worried about this guy whose got eyes on me,..."

Ladies and gentlemen, for your viewing pleasure, Bob Marshall:



Who wouldn't want to share a shower with that?

Edit: CurtEastPoint beat me to it. He is one lucky guy.

[Arkana]

42. Federal law supercedes state law, fuckers.

[Doctor_J]

43. Can't they be sent to Federal prison for disobeying federal law?

A few nights in Marion might change their minds.

[sofa king]

45. Blast my Commonwealth!

Rest of world, I apologize on behalf of those of us in Virginia who think this is bullshit.