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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:39 AM
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Mubarak told US to allow dictator in Iraq
Source: timeslive

Egyptian President Hosni Mubarak advised the United States in 2008 to "forget" about democracy in Iraq and allow a dictator to take over, according to a diplomatic cable released this week on WikiLeaks.

Mubarak made the comments during talks with visiting US congressmen to whom he also admitted that he was "terrified" by the possibility of a nuclear Iran, in the cable sent home from the US embassy.

The president noted to the US delegation he had advised Washington against the 2003 invasion of Iraq that deposed dictator Saddam Hussein.

But now that they had troops in mainly Shiite Iraq, American troops should not withdraw because that would only serve to strengthen Shiite Iran next door.

"You cannot leave" because "you would leave Iran in control," the diplomatic dispatch, dated May 27, 2008 according to the website, quoted him as saying.

"Mubarak explained his recipe for going forward," the cable said.

"Strengthen the (Iraqi) armed forces, relax your hold, and then you will have a coup. Then we will have a dictator, but a fair one. Forget democracy, the Iraqis by their nature are too tough," Mubarak said in the cable.

Read more: http://www.timeslive.co.za/world/article791399.ece/Mubarak-told-US-to-allow-dictator-in-Iraq
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:43 AM
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1. Some in this country questioned if we needed a Mussolini in Iraq.
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 11:47 AM
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2. It's probably going to happen
anyway regardless of what we do or do not do. A couple of elections do not necessarily make for a stable democracy.
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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:10 AM
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9. Plus I don't think the Iraqi people as a whole want a democracy
They damn sure don't want to be like the USA, you can bet on that.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:09 PM
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3. It IS the system they know best
It might have stabilized the country faster than forcing them into a bastardized version of Democracy.
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COLGATE4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:20 PM
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4. I'm not sure that Mubarak wasn't right.
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bongbong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 12:26 PM
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5. Good news for the MIC
This is good news for the military industrial complex! They can just put another dictator in place like Saddam, and then re-invade a few years from now.
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NOLALady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-30-10 01:07 PM
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6. +1000
You beat me to it!
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mallard Donating Member (460 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:45 AM
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10. Re: 'good news for the military industrial complex ...'
This Wikileaks garbage is quite 'amazingly' program oriented ... for deeper security blitz doo doo ... and not the stuff we should certainly have had in mind. Does no-one else question the point of it all ... being other than to get US into ... more of same constitutional rights retrograde ... using yet-more-creative psy-ops along the increasingly familiar false-flag NWO build-up theme?

This is so off-color when it comes to exposing the real folly of these wars, it might has well have been garnered off a men's room wall!
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 02:38 AM
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7. The sickest part of the whole Iraq boondoggle
The Iraq the American people wanted was, essentially, the Iraq that existed prior to George the Smarter greenlighting Iraq's invasion of Kuwait, but with a slightly less-bloodthirsty dictator in charge.

(This is different from the Iraq George W. Bush wanted, which was a completely corporate-controlled state.)
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 09:56 AM
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8. We got the oil so who cares anyway
:sarcasm:
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La Lioness Priyanka Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-05-10 10:51 AM
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11. i think wikileaks has shown that there is considerable tension in the arab/muslim world
Edited on Sun Dec-05-10 10:52 AM by La Lioness Priyanka
frankly i know people here have been jumping up and down about how these leaks show america in a bad light, but i think this is much more true of the arab/muslim world too.

the reality iraq is not one country and should be split up in the ways iraqis want it to.

britain really fucked over a lot of countries
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