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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:51 PM
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Taliban Leader in Secret Talks Was an Impostor
Source: New York Times

Taliban Leader in Secret Talks Was an Impostor
By DEXTER FILKINS and CARLOTTA GALL
Published: November 22, 2010

KABUL, Afghanistan — For months, the secret talks unfolding between Taliban and Afghan leaders to end the war appeared to be showing promise, if only because of the repeated appearance of a certain insurgent leader at one end of the table: Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour, one of the most senior commanders in the Taliban movement.

But now, it turns out, Mr. Mansour was apparently not Mr. Mansour at all. In an episode that could have been lifted from a spy novel, United States and Afghan officials now say the Afghan man was an impostor, and high-level discussions conducted with the assistance of NATO appear to have achieved little.

“It’s not him,” said a Western diplomat in Kabul intimately involved in the discussions. “And we gave him a lot of money.”

American officials confirmed Monday that they had given up hope that the Afghan was Mr. Mansour, or even a member of the Taliban leadership.

Read more: http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/23/world/asia/23kabul.html?_r=1
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:56 PM
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1. Intellijunce Failyer Strikes again
Edited on Mon Nov-22-10 11:09 PM by kenny blankenship
Pyyyyylllle!!!
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CreekDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:18 PM
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8. Hah!
i have to laugh or i'll cry.

:spray:

they can't find the Taliban so they look at our junk instead.
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pam4water Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 05:50 AM
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14. Good one!
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MrSlayer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:57 PM
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2. Apparently our intelligence people are anything but.
I wonder if I could scam a few million off of these clowns.
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:57 PM
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3. I think I know who it was
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chimpymustgo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 07:20 AM
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16. OMG
:rofl:
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Historic NY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 10:59 PM
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4. Duped again like the triple double agent who blew up the CIA.....amazing.
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Bobbieo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:01 PM
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5. What took them so long to discover he was an imposter -
a very rich imposter, too. All of the "scammers" are not in Nigeria.
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Hissyspit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:03 PM
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6. “And we gave him a lot of money.”
Sigh...
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WhiteTara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:06 PM
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7. we are so stupid. n/t
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blackspade Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:31 PM
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9. Get. Out. Now.
Our politicians and spy agencies obviously know nothing about Afghanistan.
Time to go home.
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daleo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-22-10 11:38 PM
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10. Rather like Curveball
Our security services pay to hear what they want to hear.
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TroglodyteScholar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:04 PM
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24. BINGO
You don't need ANY credibility to get tons of US cash shifted in your direction. You just have to look the part and talk a good talk.

These are our tax dollars that could be spent educating the growing legions of ignorant young conservatives-to-be. Sad.
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DeSwiss Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:31 AM
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11. Sure he was an imposter.....
...but will we be able to get him back to the peace talks?!?!

- Missed it by thaaaat much!

K&R
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skoalyman Donating Member (751 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 12:52 AM
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12. a comedian couldn't write a script this funny and sad at the same time
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:35 AM
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13. In the words of a man robbed by Omar Little:
"Fucking amateurs..."
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JCMach1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 06:40 AM
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15. facepaw
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 07:30 AM
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17. Classic! (n/t)
:rofl:
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 08:59 AM
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18. “And we gave him a lot of money.” Hmmmm
K&R
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:46 AM
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22. Could that be a motive?
:rofl:
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:00 AM
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19. Taliban commander in secret talks was a fake
Source: MSNBC.com

Taliban commander in secret talks was a fake
'It's not him,' says Western diplomat, 'and we gave him a lot of money'

By Dexter Filkins and Carlotta Gall
The New York Times
updated 11/23/2010 1:13:57 AM ET 2010-11-23T06:13:57


KABUL, Afghanistan — For months, the secret talks unfolding between Taliban and Afghan leaders to end the war appeared to be showing promise, if only because of the repeated appearance of a certain insurgent leader at one end of the table: Mullah Akhtar Muhammad Mansour, one of the most senior commanders in the Taliban movement.

But now, it turns out, Mr. Mansour was apparently not Mr. Mansour at all. In an episode that could have been lifted from a spy novel, United States and Afghan officials now say the Afghan man was an impostor, and high-level discussions conducted with the assistance of NATO appear to have achieved little.

“It’s not him,” said a Western diplomat in Kabul intimately involved in the discussions. “And we gave him a lot of money.”

American officials confirmed Monday that they had given up hope that the Afghan was Mr. Mansour, or even a member of the Taliban leadership.

(snip)

Read more: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/40327256/ns/world_news-the_new_york_times/



They even flew this guy around on NATO aircraft, and he met with Karzai.

Can these incompetent clowns do anything right? Yeah, Petraeus, I'm talking about you.

Fucking morans. Just get the fuck out of there already. Yeah, yeah, I know we're winning. Not!
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dropkickpa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:00 AM
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20. BWAHAHAHAHAA!
Bunch of fucking asshats running this fucking war. Dumbfucks.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 10:00 AM
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21. I'm surprised they didn't recognise him
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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 11:03 AM
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23. The Gang That Couldn't Shoot Straight
Now, who would have anticipated that someone would masquerade as a participant in peace talks just to scam a lot of money? Those scoundrels! It's almost like they have no respect for their betters at all.
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robcon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:08 PM
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25. Looks bad.
Bad branding for the administration.
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Bragi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-23-10 01:36 PM
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26. I hate it when that happens /nt
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