Sarah Palin poised to run for president in 2012

[go west young man]

Source: The Guardian UK

Palin, who was John McCain's vice-presidential running mate in 2008, told the New York Times she was in advanced discussions with her family and political colleagues on a bid for the Republican nomination for president.

"I'm engaged in the internal deliberations candidly, and having that discussion with my family, because my family is the most important consideration here," she said.

The New York Times said that Palin went on to say that "her decision would involve evaluating whether she could bring unique qualities to the table".

Read more: http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2010/nov/17/sarah-palin-president-bid-2012

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Here it comes. Sadly.

[queenjane]

1. Did anyone actually think she WOULDN'T run? (n/t)

[skypilot]

7. Lots of people here...

...chuckled at the idea and dismissed it. When the media continued to cover her and her every utterance months after the election, I knew she was going to run.

[sharesunited]

8. She would rather choose the president than run herself.

Can't take the heat.

[Uncle Joe]

32. I believe the reason Palin quit is because she was planning on running for President and the

string pullers told her that with her basic incompetence, the shorter her public record, the better.

The corporate media could then devote their full energy and expertise toward marketing, branding and selling Palin to the American People just as they do any other product without the side distractions of her piss poor job performance and woeful lack of qualifications.

[AlinPA]

43. Her daughter on Dancing with the Stars is a media assist. No way her daughter will lose on that

show. America is so dumbed down now, it's sickening.

[Uncle Joe]

64. And of course there is this.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4615443

The staff of the New Oxford American Dictionary has named "refudiate" - former Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin's mashup of "refute" and "repudiate" - as the 2010 Word of the Year, the Anchorage Daily News reports.

Not to mention PBS's 33 second editing of Tina Fey's comedic political roasting of Palin, which was particularly ironic as Fey was receiving the Mark Twain Award.

[blue_onyx]

15. I don't think she will

She'll play with the media for the next year and then announced over twitter her support of the most conservative Republican candidate.

[Dulcinea]

40. She'll run, but won't make it out of the primaries.

I don't see her playing well in New Hampshire or Iowa.

Even if she survives that, the GOP Boys Club will take her out. They're the ones who don't want Lady Blah Blah in the WH. They don't think they can control her.

[AlinPA]

70. Teabaggers will beat the "GOP Boys Club". Look how they turned McConnell on

earmarks- he flipped as soon as they told him to support killing earmarks. The teabaggers are running the show now with Palin, Paul, Toomey and DeMint leading.

[CountAllVotes]

2. oh goody!

Falin/Palin & Small/Paul 2012!! :puke:

[CLANG]

42. Falin/Palin & Small/Paul 2012!!

:rofl: :rofl: :spray: :applause: :yourock: :headbang: :fistbump: :pals: :hi: :thumbsup: :spank: :beer: :toast: :party: :patriot:

[CountAllVotes]

54. ...

:patriot: :D :D :D :D :D :D

YOU GO GIRL! :rofl:

[Kali]

3. "unique qualities"

well that is one truth out of her mouth!:rofl: :puke:

[John Q. Citizen]

4. That should help revive the Dems. Good.

[pnwmom]

6. She's already got a 45% approval rating and the media's on her side.

Not good at all.

[Davis_X_Machina]

19. Winning a major-party nomination...

...with disapproval numbers already in the 50's and near-100% name recognition means there's next to no upside potential. Her campaign begins to go downhill 20 seconds after it's announced.

She won't win a single primary and she'll be gone by Super Tuesday.

[CakeGrrl]

20. I think any Dems who WANT her to run are in for a nasty surprise.

Who wants to bet how many people on DU will be shocked - SHOCKED! - that the MSM will not only ignore her ridiculous inadequacies, they'll hold roundtable discussions with straight faces about her plans for Washington and prop up her "favorables" and her "folksiness" every chance they get?

:puke:

[MattyGroves]

26. Yep. The media is more interested in their bottom line than the country

and Sarah Palin brings viewers. A Palin nomination as the Republican candidate would be a goldmine and the media will prop her up so as to keep the polls as tight as possible up through election night.

[CBHagman]

97. The polls I've seen suggest high unfavorability ratings.

Here are a couple:

From Quinnipiac:

http://www.politicsdaily.com/2010/07/21/michelle-obamas-poll-numbers-top-her-husbands-palins/

From the poll summary: "American voters like Obama more than Sarah Palin, giving him a 49-45 percent favorability, while she gets a negative 35-49 percent. Michelle Obama does much better, with a 55-19 percent favorability."

Gallup:

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/11/12/palins-unfavorables-reach-all-time-high/

A new survey by Gallup suggests more than half of all Americans (52 percent) now hold a negative view of the former Alaska governor, the highest unfavorable rating Palin has ever registered in the organization's polling. Her 40 percent favorable rating meanwhile ties her lowest score in Gallup history, registered in the fall of 2009 shortly after she quit her post as governor.

Palin also registered a 40 percent favorable rating in CNN/Opinion Research Corporation national poll conducted just before the midterm elections. According to the CNN survey, 49 percent said they had an unfavorable opinion of Palin.

The Gallup poll indicates that Palin seems to have lost her biggest chunk of support among independent voters – the voting bloc that was crucial in handing Republicans control of the House on Election Day. Her favorability among those voters has dropped 8 points since the summer, according to the poll, from 43 percent to 35 percent.

[nxylas]

5. To absolutely no-one's surprise

And I bet there will still be those who comfort themselves with "She'll never get elected, she's too stoopid". Sigh.

[aquart]

9. Too.

[nxylas]

13. Whoops

Fixed it.

[happygoluckytoyou]

18. i'm going to register REPUBLICAN just so i can vote for her ! ! ! the DEM great white hoop ! ! !

[AndyTiedye]

52. Please Don't. She is Far Too Likely to Win

[AndyTiedye]

50. Same Ones Who Said The Same Thing about W

NOBODY is unelectable with the Repiglickin' Mighty Slime Machine behind them!

The hope has run out and all that's left is fear and hate,
and Sarah Palin is waiting to cash in.

:scared:

[Dogtown]

67. You're absolutely correct

but they won't listen.

[truthisfreedom]

10. Sarah "the quitter" Palin is my choice for rethug candidate.

Over anyone. She's hopeless.

[bluedigger]

11. If Alvin Green gets the Democratic nomination...

If Alvin Green gets the Democratic nomination, it will be like the country is guaranteed to fast forward straight to Idiocracy!:rofl:

[herbm]

46. I'll take Alvin over Pallin. I'd take the "rents too damn high" guy over Pallin.

[bluedigger]

55. Well, "The rent's too damn high, guy" actually has a platform.

I'd take him, too!

edit for spellin.

[herbm]

59. No problem, spelling Nazis irritate me to no end. I liked the guy a lot.

[LongTomH]

12. Oh! My! God!

AAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!:wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow: :wow:

[Turborama]

14. If she does, she won't survive the Republican primaries and will try it as an independent

That'll be a nice split vote for us, thank you very much.

[blue_onyx]

17. That's my feeling too

I think she could run as a third party candidate or independent if someone like Romney wins the nomination. I can't see tea party supporters being ok with Romney. How do you run against "Obamacare" when your candidate enacted a very similar program as governor?

[nxylas]

33. Yes, it would require an amazing amount of cognitive dissonance to overlook such hypocrisy

Oh wait....

[herbm]

23. PLEASE let her run as an Independent!!!!!!!

[truthisfreedom]

48. Perfect!

Instead of "the decider" she can be "the divider"!

[herbm]

63. And when she loses we can ask her, "howzat werkin fer ya?"

[BonnieJW]

16. I think

she got the idea from Witch O'Donnel that money can be made by running for office. She'll set up each of her kids as a vendor for her campaign and funnel all the contributions to them. Don't forget that Bristol is the head of some kind of PR consulting company.

[33Greeper]

21. Goody Goody Gumdrops

Run, Sarah Run! You would make a great GOP Nominee!

[herbm]

22. Please let her run. She thinks her short comings were brought out last time? PLEASE, someone nominat

e her, please, please, please. Meg Whitman or better yet, Joe Miller or O'Donnell could be her vice-prez, how about John McCane???? He'd make a great losing VP candidate!

[AlinPA]

71. It will be Rubio.

[herbm]

77. Deep down inside I don't think Rubio is completely bat shit.. I think he is rational and able to mea

sure a moment. He might not be so conservative after all. How do you think Miami will react to cut in social services. Most of the Tea Party in my area who support it financialy are people on some sort of social program from veterans to retirees from gov't and military, on Medicre or medicade and social security or some combination of these. They want their own benifits to remain because they "earned it" and are legitimate claimants. They don't realize how bad the "average" recipient will get hurt. You can bet Joe Miller felt he deserved all the social programs his family was on including unemplyment funds for a lost temporary job, everybody else is milking it.

I think Rubio will be able to figure this out. Maybe with a bit of majority, some intimidated GOP just might break away from the caucus 'line' once in a while. I don't think the GOP thinks it can seduce the teabaggers, I think the plan is to steamroll them, like they've tried to steam roll the President. If there is any backbone in enough of the teabaggers, progressive can use and work them to at least some degree of the agenda we voted President Obamam to promote in Washington. These are turbulent dangerous times, but it ain't over, yet. Don't be too hasty about who you're going to vote off the island.

[TheWatcher]

24. All those Cheering for this supposed Slam Dunk victory for our side in 2012 should sober up a little

and remember recent history.





Couple this with a generous dosing of underestimating the stupidity of the American Public, and you have a very dark recipe of Be Careful What You Wish For.

[herbm]

28. So the times call for timidity AND fear and loathing? W could NEVER have won w/o Democrats voting fo

r him both times.

[TheWatcher]

29. No, they do not. Also, please refrain from putting words in my mouth.

The times call for increased vigilance, and for the American people to wake up and do everything that is necessary to PREVENT something like this from taking place.

It would be the end of the country if it happened.

America could NOT survive a Palin Administration.

[MBS]

35. " " " " n/t

[herbm]

41. Who put words in your mouth. You said that we'd probably get her if she ran and you don't want that,

right?

[AlinPA]

36. Exactly right.

[nxylas]

38. More recent than that

It seems that people have forgotten the recent midterms already. Remember how the Tea Party takeover of the GOP was supposed to guarantee the Dems retaining both houses in Congress? How'd that work out?

[herbm]

57. They haven't been sworn in, yet. What makes you think the GOP can control them? And it certainly see

ms like Pallin is being backpedaled by the GOP. Fox is laughing at her on air and Bachman certainly seemed very subdued at the press conf ....er... the conference yesterday at the DC Press Club .... conference. Maybe she's been asked about who can promote her political career better: The GOP or teabaggers. The President isn't done historically, yet. And these goofs in high profile - Fiorina, Whitman, Miller, Angle, O'Donnell did not do so well in the last election. And in the cases of the few big names who did get a seat, if the DNC could have turned out the vote, some of them would be writing memoirs, too. Dem voters voted for a lot of these tweaks or didn't vote at all. Its sexy to vote for a president, but not sexy to have to read news and vote wisely in an off year or, it seems, to have even voted at all. And I think that Rand Paul will be at least a minor thorn in the GOP side, the same way his father has been in Congress.

[herbm]

25. A candidate with "self-deficating humor", accourding to Fox and Grechen Carlson.

[truthisfreedom]

47. And she's getting incrementally excremental.

Had to do it. "Self-defecating." I love it.

[herbm]

62. I like that. If we could only hang her with it like vp 'tomatoe has an e in it' Quayle.

[RamboLiberal]

27. Stewart, Colbert, Maher, MSNBC Primetime are all celebrating

Pass the :popcorn:

The debates will be fun to watch. The Repuke internal warfare will be fun to watch.

I hope they nominate her. And if this country is stupid enough to elect her then maybe we should talk secesssion.

[AlinPA]

34. This country is stupid enough, no question there. I often think of H.L Mencken who said

"As democracy is perfected, the office represents, more and more closely,
the inner soul of the people. We move toward a lofty ideal.
On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's
desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

[truthisfreedom]

49. Secession? As in the entire country secedes from Washington DC?

[Turborama]

53. You mean the secession for Alaska her husband supported?

That's something that should be brought up waaay before November 2012!

http://www.google.com/search?num=100&hl=en&rls=com.microsoft:en-US&&sa=X&ei=_jDkTK6WKcmwceiwyNoL&ved=0CBEQBSgA&q=palin+alaska+secession&spell=1

[emulatorloo]

30. She quit halfway through her term as Governor. How can she run for President?

Well she can run, but I don't see how people can get past the QUITTER thing.

[herbm]

44. Out of a self-delusion-ry bend of mind?

[harun]

66. Only in America.

[CBHagman]

31. Please do, and don't let the door hit you on the way out.

She's a dangerous, nasty piece of work, but her negatives are so high that I don't think she could pull off a primary win, and on top of that, I think there is a sizable portion of the GOP that views her as political suicide, rightly so.

[AlinPA]

39. The media will compensate for that. She is a perfect candidate for TV. nt

[herbm]

45. So you're in the Pallin Indepentant 3rd party run catagory?

[AlinPA]

37. The media loves her. She will win the primaries, they will pick Rubio and

we will have real problems.

[bigworld]

61. bigworld googles "jobs in Canada"

[savalez]

93. I know some Pubs who won't vote for her.

[riderinthestorm]

95. And she has a solid, rock solid base of 22- 25% depending on polls

That's more than any other potential candidate bar none.

If she can get the right message massager, she can easily pick up another 4 - 10% and then she'll be the candidate.

Combine that with her being a media darling and I smell trouble. Big trouble.

I don't dismiss her at all. Underestimate your enemy at your peril, is my motto. She's got very savvy political smarts if nothing else. She "understands" how to leverage, and manipulate, and deal. Combined with her 65% candidate endorsement "wins" in the mid-terms and she's got too much power already in my book.

I know I'm preaching to the choir with you but thought I'd piggy back on your post and chime in.

[midnight armadillo]

106. leverage, and manipulate, and deal.

...yup, about the only skills someone with her degree of pathological narcissism is capable of.

[zanana1]

51. Let us pray. nt

[SpankMe]

56. No rejoicing, please.

She's got two years to improve her image. And Americans - especially conservative ones - have short memories. If she runs, she wins. If not in 2012, then in 2016. The right wing of the country will see to it.

[bigworld]

58. Sarah teases with a run whenever she has a program or book to promote

Why in the world would she want to run for president? She has power, wealth, and fame now. No WAY she'll do it, unless she's seriously delusional.

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[earth mom]

65. Gag me.

:puke:

[onecent]

68. IF she becomes President, I will definitely shut off Time Warner

and all 3 televisions. Nails on a chalk board NEVER did bother me, BUT HER VOICE is beyond
annoying!!!!

[David Zephyr]

69. She's Karl Rove's nightmare, but the truth is she can win Iowa & New Hampshire.

Rove will have to plant another woman into the presidential mix to "divide and conquer" because Sarah is very popular with conservative women.

I'm crossing my fingers she runs because she can not be elected.

[AlinPA]

72. I don't know David, this country is really dumbed down now. The Tee Vee is the hammer

that the republicans and the donors that put on all those ads (Koch, et al plus billions more on the way) will use. Hell they even have her daughter on the most popular tee vee show and she is "winning".

[David Zephyr]

96. I can't argue with yo, AlinPA

Because there is evidence on your side that this is indeed the status quo.

[TheWatcher]

73. David, you know I have the utmost respect for you, but again, PLEASE Be Careful What You Wish For.

See my post upthread.

DO NOT Underestimate the disastrous possibilities that could afflict this country.

We have gone too far across the Rubicon already to take for granted that something like this could happen.

In a sane country, we could laugh this off.

We can no longer afford to be so aloof.

[David Zephyr]

99. You are right as AlinPA also posted.

My fear is that Karl Rove is cleaing the deck for Jeb Bush.

Mike Pence is now out of the running.

Mitt Romney will be overtly removed for his healthcare in Massachusettes and covertly from being LDS.

Mike Huckabee has already said that Jeb would make a great President.

Newt would only be a stalking horse for the Bush family.

Who's left? Who actually could rob Rove from controlling the 2012 agenda? Sarah Palin.

This is why Karl Rove went out of his way days before the mid-terms to attack Palin. He sees her as the threat she is to the country club control of their party (look at Maryland where Palin trumped Rove) in the primaries.

I don't think she could be elected, but then again, I read your post above and the one from AlinPA and I can't argue against you. Is America that crazy to elect her? I doubt it, but I said the same thing in 1980 and in 2000. So you are right, dumb can win.

[Davis_X_Machina]

75. In New Hampshire, she'd finish third, or fourth...

....behind any number of candidates. Too many people in that state, north of Winnipesaukee especially, are the real version of what she's pretending to be.

Ask President Phil Gramm how far a huge warchest gets you in NH if you're fundamentally unlikeable.

[AlinPA]

81. IMO very few people knew who Phil Gramm was; Palin is 100% known now. nt

[Davis_X_Machina]

82. When you've got +50% unfavorables...

...and Palin does, and 100% name recognition, there's no upside potential. You have to shift unfavorables to favorables to go forward. And that just doesn't happen. Converting 'No opinion' to favorables is what makes a politician's stock go up.

I start shorting her stock on Intrade the day she announces.

[AlinPA]

86. With 10's of billions from the corporations and shadow groups and the TV

those favorables will shift in today's dumbed down America.

[Davis_X_Machina]

87. No. Unfavorables once established....

...basically don't move. Money can't move them. Campaigns don't move them. Only something like 9/11 or Reagan's assassination attempt does. Media only sways undecideds -- and there aren't any. Not for her.

Go find a graph of Bush's unfavorables. Each downtick corresponds to a particular real-world event -- 9/11, Saddam's capture, etc. They don't move at all during the 2004 campaign season.

[AlinPA]

90. OK, it looks like you've studied the behaviors more than I have. Hope you're right.

[David Zephyr]

100. She has +50% unfavorables with the general public, but not so within the GOP.

She could win the GOP New Hampshire primary. She'll easily take Iowa before that.

The question is going to be how Karl Rove and the Bush family machine (and it's a machine) gets her out of the way.

[AndyTiedye]

84. People Said the Same Thing About Dubya

Through miracles of high and low tech election fraud, *anyone* can be "elected" President if the Repiglickins nominate them.
Everything has to go our way for us to win by enough of a landslide that they cannot steal it.

[Davis_X_Machina]

88. No. Bush never had 50% *un*favorables during an election.

...he hit that mark only post Abu Graib, just pre 2006 midterms.

Voters' impressions aren't that plastic.

[David Zephyr]

101. That is true and the electorate is not that bright anymore.

But Dubya's crowd doesn't fancy Palin. Karl Rove has his hands full now in trying to get her to drop out.

[Bluestar]

74. "Unique Qualities"

Stupidity, ignorance, prejudice and hatred. These qualities are unique, but not necessarily desirable.

[krabigirl]

76. Lol, well if she is the nominee, Obama would easily win.

She wont be the nominee, though, after the failures of social con nut bags like o donnell and sharron angle.

[MadMaddie]

98. He will only easily win if we get out there and work together to

defeat her (if it is her).

We can't take anything for granted anymore the last 10 years have proven that we are continually surprised over and over.....

[AmandaMae]

79. I suspected she would. Sadly enough, in this country, it's possible.

Although I don't think she has any chance of winning, thankfully.

[fascisthunter]

80. who didn't see this coming... the wealthy have a very sick sense of humor

no respect for this country.

[Blasphemer]

83. Should be a fun election year...

Whether she is the GOP nominee or (more likely) a third party candidate, it will be nothing but a media circus. Obama will cruise to victory. The woman QUIT her job as Governor. The country may have been ready for a woman like Hillary Clinton to be President but no way does a woman like Palin get anywhere near the Presidency. She may get tons of media coverage but she will also be routinely skewered. It'll be kind of like having a public wind-up doll for entertainment. I'm sure Tina Fey will be having the time of her life.

[AndyTiedye]

85. If Scary is Your Idea of Fun

Why do we always have to be one election away from disaster?

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[tanyev]

91. "my family is the most important consideration here"

It's certainly a toss-up between her governing skills and her parenting skills.

[savalez]

92. Do you think she'll get past the Pubtard primary?

[struggle4progress]

94. Run, Sarah, run!

I mebbe totally wrong, but I think we'd squish her like a bug

[Yeahyeah]

102. Sarah Palin poised?

I don't think she's ready for the ball,unlike her daughter.

[killbotfactory]

103. She sure is savvy at cashing in on her fame/infamy

I kinda wish our media would stop humoring her.

[zonkers]

104. Bring it on, you greedy ignorant super disgusting person.

[rames25]

105. Sarah Palin poised to run for president in 2012

Oh boy here we go again