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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:49 AM
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Rand Paul Won't Shake Opponent Jack Conway's Hand
Source: CBS News

The fight for Kentucky's Senate seat reached new heights of acrimony on Sunday night: A debate between Democrat Jack Conway and Republican Rand Paul ended with Paul refusing to shake his opponent's hand. "I will not be associated with someone who attacks my religion," Paul said.

"You demean the state of Kentucky," Paul told Conway at one point during the hour-long televised debate, which was held at the University of Louisville.

The acrimony - and much of the discussion at the debate - grew out of a recent Conway ad spotlighting Paul's involvement in a secret society at Baylor University that was reportedly banned for mocking Christianity.

"Why was Rand Paul a member of a secret society that called the Holy Bible 'a hoax,' that was banned for mocking Christianity and Christ?" an announcer in the ad asks.

Read more: http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-503544_162-20019853-503544.html?tag=cbsnewsSectionContent.5
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:55 AM
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1. No more Mr Nice Guy eh?
:rofl:
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flakey_foont Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:56 AM
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2. aw, poor widdle Rand
like most Republicans,,,you just cannot hurt their widdle feewings.....they are sensitive and easily outraged

and of course, they have a free pass to insult to the nth degree anyone who disagrees with them

imagine the faux outrage if a Dem candidate for, say Senate, had a dabbling in witchraft in their younger days.... aye carumba! That would be a total outrage !!!!
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Cheap_Trick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:58 AM
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3. I thought maybe Conway dissed the Aqua Buddha......nt
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 10:58 AM
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4. I really think this ad will backfire
Remember that the Christian right was not willing to hold much worse "pranks" against George W Bush. The fact is that this is far too easily dismissed as both "not proven" (and no matter how good the GQ back up, they will see it as unproven) and something from decades ago in college.

This reeks of being a desperation move by Conway. Unfortunately, it may lose him some of the voters who might have seen him as the nicer person (which he sure seems to be.) I really liked his previous ad - on issues like social security. It may be that his internals were not showing them making enough a dent.

I have never lived in KY, so I could be wrong, but I just don't see this helping. The candidate himself should never have touched this.
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CherokeeDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:27 AM
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5. I Agree...
I do live in KY, have volunteered for Conway, but I was deeply concerned about this ad. When calling KY voters, I kept hearing that they hated the negativity and didn't know who to trust. These were Democrats I was calling. I know that everyone says negative ads work, but where is the line in the sand? Paul has enough stupidity to campaign against than to bring up these issues. I am conflicted, though, I want to beat this idiot. I just have to figure out where my line in the sand lies.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 11:28 AM
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6. Also, like with O'Donnell, fundies actually give you extra points...
for being "godless" in the past then seeing the light. Plays right into their black/white way of thinking, where normal people - even lifelong Christians - don't necessarily fit in.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:33 PM
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13. True - the prodigal son - last seen played by George Bush
He, like Paul, used all the words that make them see him as a true evangelical Christian. I guess if you truly believe that the one that was lost is found, and take Bush/Rand as honest and their religion at face value, it makes sense. (I do remembering meeting a nice lady, a friend of the family, who spoke of her pastor telling them to vote for the "moral" candidate in 2004. I told her that there was no doubt in my mind who the moral candidate was - Kerry and I proceeded to compare episodes of their life to prove it. I doubt I convinced her because we were not really speaking the same language.
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bemildred Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:07 PM
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16. Paul is toast. nt
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Don Draper Donating Member (69 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:01 PM
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7. This is what I would hammer home in the ads......
I would keep saying Rand Paul is extreme and use various extreme quotes from him (such as being against the civil rights act, against Americans with disabilities act, etc...)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:26 PM
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10. Why not use some of the Maddow tapes?
Let him do his own incrimination.
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WingDinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:07 PM
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8. He doesn't want to get any reality on him.
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:22 PM
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18. LOL!!! Good one. (nt)
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:24 PM
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9. The ad sounded like a republican ad...I didn't like it at all.
Not good.
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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:07 PM
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23. I agree, the ad would actually make me like Rand more if I didn't know anything about him.
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era veteran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:28 PM
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11.  Paul demeans the state to include the Teapublican Party
The worst kind of carpetbagging dullard. Self righteous when it suits. Pass the Aqua Buddah, You've been holding on to it and I sure could use a hit.
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:28 PM
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12. he's paranoid about a joy-buzzer after 'an incident' as a child




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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:52 PM
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14. What an asshole Paul is
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Doctor_J Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 12:56 PM
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15. As Frank Rich pointed out yesterday, teabaggers will be getting
more hostile. They are allowed to call the president a traitor, a muslim, a half-rican, and a socialist, but you must treat them with respect. they are filthy swine
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w4rma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:16 PM
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17. Rand Paul is a rude, sanctimonious jerk. (nt)
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Marnie Donating Member (706 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 01:28 PM
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19. Conway's next ad should be
a reminder that while Rand was worshiping a false idol, he was, presumably, by choice, attending the very conservative southern Baptist Baylor University.
So that makes him a religious hypocrite as well as a pussy.

Real men can shake hands with their adversaries, and look them in the eye.

And no, most college students do not do foolish things, any more than the rest of the population, and probably less. As most college students are too busy working part time, going to classes and disappearing into the dim corners of the library studying, so that their or their parent's money is not wasted.
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ljm2002 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:32 PM
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20. If there was no truth to the ad...
...and if Rand Paul was a man, he'd laugh in Conway's face over it and would gain points for doing so.

What I find most amusing is Paul's charge that Conway is "attacking my religion". What a hoot!

The ad is definitely below-the-belt. But in today's political climate, where every other ad from the Republicans and their benefactors is a below-the-belt attack on Democrats, I for one can't fault Conway for it.

But we'll see how it plays out.
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Grins Donating Member (508 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 04:53 PM
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21. Bwahahahahahha! Reminds me of another "conservative"
But I can't remember who it was...

Many, many years ago I'm watching this documentary on John Henry Faulk suing some Reich-wing conservative in Texas during the McCarthy era for calling him a communist and destroying him.

Day 1 at the court: The guy is pointed out to Faulk who has never seen his accuser. Faulk walks over to him, introduces himself, shakes his hand, then walks back to his attorney

His lawyer, Louie Nizer, asks him why he shook his hand.

"I just wanted to show the son-of-a-bitch that I have more manners than him."


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krabigirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-18-10 05:06 PM
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22. Jack Conway denigrated Aqua Buddha?
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Javaman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-19-10 08:36 AM
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24. awww randy don't walk away mad...
just goes to show his childlike mentality.

He just wants to take his blocks and go home!

:rofl:
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