Westboro Baptist Church (Phelps) to burn Qurans if Dove (Jones) doesn't

[Tx4obama]

Source: Ocala

Westboro Baptist Church, the small Topeka, Kan., church that pickets funerals of American soldiers to spread its message that God is punishing the country for being tolerant of homosexuals, has vowed to hold a Quran burning if Gainesville's Dove World Outreach Center calls its off.

"WBC burned the Koran once – and if you sissy brats of Doomed america bully Terry Jones and the Dove World Outreach Center until they change their plans to burn that blasphemous tripe called the Koran, then WBC will burn it (again), to clearly show you some things," the church announced in a news release this week.

Read more: http://www.ocala.com/article/20100909/ARTICLES/100909743/-1/news?Title=Westboro-Baptish-Church-to-burn-Qurans-if-Dove-doesn-t

[DrDan]

1. I sure hope the tax-exempt status of these churches is being looked at as they

venture into politics

I have a feeling they would back off pretty quickly if there was a possibility of losing that status

[golfguru]

31. It is foolish but constitutional to burn anything

So best thing to do is ignore them.

[DrDan]

37. I have no problem with the burning - it is the hate-talk that seems to cross the line

and into the world of politics

"Most people are aware that a church or religious organization can lose their tax exempt status for engaging in partisan political activity, like endorsing a political candidate. What many aren't aware of, though, is that the same can happen for promoting or engaging in things contrary to government policy. Tax exemption is a privilege, not a right."

http://atheism.about.com/od/churchestaxexemptions/Tax_Exempt_Churches_Religious_Freedom_vs_Tax_Exemptions.htm

[mjane]

33. It wouldn't affect their tax exempt status

as burning a Quran (or flag or bible or bra or...) does not violate the conditions of tax exempt status

[DrDan]

38. I am referring to the political rhetoric that is accompanying this act

that seems to cross the line

I really have no problem with the burning


http://atheism.about.com/od/churchestaxexemptions/Tax_Exempt_Churches_Religious_Freedom_vs_Tax_Exemptions.htm

"What many aren't aware of, though, is that the same <losing exempt status> can happen for promoting or engaging in things contrary to government policy. Tax exemption is a privilege, not a right.

[mjane]

39. Oh

I didn't hear what kind of rhetoric the guy was spouting off with.

I'd just like the point out that making statements about values, even if those values have political ramifications (as many, if not most do) does not challenge tax exempt status. This guy's values are totally fucked up, but if he said "vote for John (R) FLA" he would have issues. Saying "burn a Quran because Islam is a devil religion" or other such hogwash would not jeapardize his status.

Just his status as a rational human being. :)

[myrna minx]

2. LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!

:puke:

[AlbertCat]

7. LOOK AT MEEEEEEE!!!

Exactly


And of course, the FL nut cases have called it off (due to a "sign from god" :eyes:) and now they want to meet with some Muslims....blah blah blah. Just trying to make their irrelevant and repugnant "church" somehow important. They, like Phelps, are not worth the trouble they cause and have noting to offer. They must justify their way-out notions with narcissistic stunts.

[GreenPartyVoter]

3. Trying to out-crazy each other...

[slackmaster]

4. Good. Maybe someone will drop the Islamic Bomb on that turd.

:nuke:

[hlthe2b]

5. Hopefully Muslims already know how insane these morons are...

We can simply highlight that this is the sicko group that protests their hate at our own military funerals...They hate everyone.

[kestrel91316]

6. I vote we round up all the christian fundie whackadoodles and put them in a small

room with all the islamic fundie whackadoodles, give everybody sharp implements, and let them have at each other.

[Mz Pip]

8. Geez, this is like Whack-a-Mole.

A soon as you whack one back to its hole and another pops up. Ugh.

[awoke_in_2003]

14. I wish I had a wooden mallet. nt

[OneGrassRoot]

34. LOL...I just wrote the same thing at a thread in GD...

:rofl:

but really :eyes:

[DiverDave]

9. The muslim crazies will go nuts when

the crazies here do something they deem against their faith.
I wish they BOTH would just stop and think of the innocents that suffer when they act in the idiotic way they do.
But, once again, it's "ALL ABOUT ME!!!"
see I have more faith then YOU...

crazy

[Bitwit1234]

10. Since this must be something illegal because the FBI

visited Jones, maybe they will VISIT westboro and SHUT THEM DOWN permanently. And you are correct. I think the IRS isn't doing their damn job, when they let all these churchs get away with stuff that infringes on separating church and state. Revoke the damn status and be done with it. Then make them prove they aren't breaking the law.

[mjane]

35. This has nothing to do with

tax exempt status, any more than a church leader who burned a flag or a bra would affect tax exempt status.

Churches can take stances like this.

They can't endorse specific candidates or parties. They can endorse positions about various issues, to include expressions of distaste of the Quran (or the flag) by burning it

[golddigger]

11. And here we go!

[RKP5637]

12. Is this really real? If so, it just demonstrates how utterly ridiculous some of

these religions are... I vote the tax exempt status be yanked. These are political operatives under the guise of religion.

[awoke_in_2003]

13. This is like...

Kim Jong-il and Mahmoud Ahmadinejad squaring off for "The World's Biggest Attention Whore" championship.

[KamaAina]

28. DUzy!!

:rofl:

[davidinalameda]

15. thank goodness

so glad Fred decided to pick up the slack

[AzDar]

16. Self-Delete

:rofl:

[cliffordu]

17. I wish God would turn these fuckers into dog food.

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[KamaAina]

29. Why do you hate dogs so much?

:shrug:

[cliffordu]

36. woops - sorry

RNC lunchmeat, then......

[Dappleganger]

18. Great, a holier-than-thou pissing contest.

Sometimes I feel like the news is just one giant Jerry Springer Show.

[RKP5637]

20. Yeah, it is, isn't it. Absolutely correct! n/t

[iamthebandfanman]

21. good, if anybody needs a terrorist attack

its the WBC.

lol


edit :

lil side note, i dont endorse use of violence against wbc ;)

[Bragi]

22. So are we to pretend now that this isn't happening?

I have to say I've been concerned about the Jones-Immam deal because it is founded on the assumption that none of America's 307 million citizens would ever burn a Quoran anytime in the future.

This seemed to me to be a precarious proposition, and a slender thread on which to anchor a complicated deal, but I'm not going to stand in anyone's way.

However, with Phelps now on the scene, and promising to fill in for Pastor Jones, is it game-on again on the Koran-burning front, or are we done with that?

[Lucky Luciano]

23. I guess the silver lining in this is that the members of this bizarre cult

will likely be Theo van Gogh-ed.

[Tx4obama]

24. So, between the THREE nutty pastors - who's gonna actually do it?

So far we have THREE insane pastors that have said they'd burn the books tomorrow.
Wonder who really will? And how many more nuts are going to come out of the woodwork on Saturday!

1) Rev. Terry Jones of the Dove World Center Outreach in Gainesville, Florida

2) Fred Phelps of the Westboro Baptist Church in Topeka, Kansas

3) Rev. Bob Old in Springfield Tennessee ---> http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4533685&mesg_id=4533685

[Bragi]

25. Phelps for sure, maybe Bob, I think Terry's gone for good /nt

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[KamaAina]

27. Celebrity Deathmatch: Phelps vs. Jones

Live on Pay-Per-View. All proceeds donated to the ACLU, People for the American Way, and the Council on American-Islamic Relations.

[Spiderzumbie]

30. Dude, WBC is just doing it for the lulz

They don't really want to burn the Quaran, they just want to appear on the news and be big man on conservative campus!

[golfguru]

32. May be I should go to Mecca and burn some bibles

Oops, can't do that. Only muslims are allowed to enter town of Mecca.

[6000eliot]

40. The fucksticks at Fox News whipped this shit up.

I hope they're happy now with what these loons are doing.