Democratic Underground Latest Greatest Lobby Journals Search Options Help Login
Google

North Korea threatens nuclear "holy war" if attacked

Printer-friendly format Printer-friendly format
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend
Printer-friendly format Bookmark this thread
This topic is archived.
Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:42 AM
Original message
North Korea threatens nuclear "holy war" if attacked
Source: Reuters

North Korea would answer any attack on it with a nuclear "holy war," the country's ambassador to Cuba said, according to official Chinese media, while the North's leader Kim Jong-il appeared to be visiting China.

The ambassador Kwon Sung-chol made the remarks on Friday at a ceremony marking 50 years of diplomatic ties between North Korea and Cuba, the same day that Pyongyang said it was open to returning to nuclear disarmament negotiations.

"If Washington and Seoul try to create a conflict on the Korean peninsula, we will respond with a holy war on the basis of our nuclear deterrent forces," Kwon said, according to China's Xinhua news agency on Saturday, in a story datelined Havana.

"Our government will strive for the denuclearization of the peninsula and the establishment of a lasting peace as the beginning of the reunification process of the two Koreas," said Kwon.

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE67P0CK20100828
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
TygrBright Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:46 AM
Response to Original message
1. "Holy" war?!? Wait.... what?
I thought they was Godless Commies.

I'm so confused.

Bewilderedly,
Bright
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:49 AM
Response to Reply #1
2. There is a god in North Korea:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Akoto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:59 AM
Response to Reply #2
3. What has been seen cannot be unseen! Aagh! n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DCKit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 03:03 AM
Response to Reply #3
8. Could've been worse. He's got some interesting tastes. His fav fetish sites...
probably only cater to him and a couple of M.E. Princes. Ick.

That said, "newcuelur holy war"? Jeebus.

If there's ONE country in the world that could provide an example of liberation, Democracy and our (the other developed countries) generosity and charity, N. Korea (after the fall of Lil Kim) would be an excellent test-case.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Frisbee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:11 AM
Response to Reply #2
4. OK, is that real or Photoshopped?
and it's pretty disgusting either way!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:17 AM
Response to Reply #4
5. Oldie of unknown origin
Clearly photoshopped.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 02:53 AM
Response to Reply #5
7. REally good photoshopped, but photoshopped nonetheless nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:55 PM
Response to Reply #2
16. Oh, my eyes!
Should've had a warning! :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:18 AM
Response to Reply #1
12. Now REAL pictures: How Dear Leader Is Keeping North Korea Safe
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:03 AM
Response to Reply #12
13. Apparently, most North Koreans think he still looks like this...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
AsahinaKimi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:09 PM
Response to Reply #13
17. I wonder what the heck this is???


Some kinda jelly-looking thing. Any ideas?? I have never seen this before.. :shrug:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turborama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:37 PM
Response to Reply #17
19. LOL, I don't know
But it sure looks like he's asking himself the same question. :rofl:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:43 PM
Response to Reply #17
21. my guess is that its hard candy..
Initially i thought they were some jelly stuff too..but i see that there are shattered remains of the candies near the machine's outlet...which implies this is some hard candy..or something similar. Just guessing though



Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
mike r Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #17
22. Pregelatinized corn starch capsules?
The photo caption says:

Kim Jong-il inspects the Pyongyang Cornstarch Factory in Pyongyang. Photo released on December 13, 2009. (KNS/AFP/Getty Images)

------------------------------------------------------------

They sure have a lot of scrap on the floor...
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
MoonlitwingsX Donating Member (17 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:40 PM
Response to Reply #13
20. That is Kim Il-sung, if I remember correctly..
..the 'Eternal President of the Republic.'

NK media is *heavily* controlled and one giant propaganda machine. Tourists are guided through a pre-planned course with guards and not allowed to wander and are sometimes treated with hostility, like having their cameras' memory cards seized if you're spotted with a camera in a restricted area. Tourist destinations are all prepared ahead of time, and dismantled once they leave. All to give a sense that the country is doing A-OK-- even thriving behind their secretive curtain from the rest of the world. On one hand I hear of tourists being chased by the poor, beaming when they're given even one measly US dollar, while on the other hand I hear they do well-enough for their position. I *seriously* doubt they really do possess nuclear arms, and prior "tests" were probably nothing more than large underground TNT detonations.

All talk and no bite. Though I'm not sure how much will China come to their aid. I'd wager they wouldn't if they deem it too expensive.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
CLANG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 02:48 PM
Response to Reply #12
26. The only photo where he looks truly happy and excited!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 03:50 PM
Response to Reply #26
28. lol i thought the same :) nt
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
kentauros Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:08 PM
Response to Reply #12
32. So, in the first photo he's looking at some Soylent Beige?
:P
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Vehl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:47 PM
Response to Reply #1
23. yeah....i know...when did communists become religious!.

i guess he wanted to use all the "cool" words nowadays.

lol
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
countmyvote4real Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:41 AM
Response to Original message
6. That's so "Carrie" (1976) n/t
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
SkyDaddy7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:14 AM
Response to Original message
9. Somebody is not getting enough attention!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
jimlup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:38 AM
Response to Original message
10. I thought they were already at war?
This silly little country is like a mean little dog that barks incessantly runs away as soon at it perceives any real threat.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Systematic Chaos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 07:56 AM
Response to Original message
11. I know if it were up to me, I'd be on that like sand
in their bowls of rice.

I mean, who the hell wouldn't want to invade NK for their awesome cuisine and advanced circa 1973 computer technology??

Oh and I heard they even have music on cassette tape and some old VHS tapes you can entertain yourself with while you eat your wilted veggies and slice of Dachsund.

:woohoo:
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Turbineguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 10:40 AM
Response to Original message
14. Li'l Kim's in China?
Let's sneak in and steal his VCR collection!
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
iandhr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 12:30 PM
Response to Original message
15. They makes these kinds of threats all the time.
Do not call Dr. Strangelove just yet.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:11 PM
Response to Original message
18. Deleted message
Message removed by moderator. Click here to review the message board rules.
 
Drale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 01:49 PM
Response to Original message
24. Its so sad
That both North Korea and Iran both beleave there one nuke made with 60 year old technology can do any long term damage to anything. Also do they realize it would take like just two or three of our nukes to destroy their entire country?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 04:29 AM
Response to Reply #24
33. That doesn't make any sense. Where didn Iran's nuke come from?
This is news to everyone but you.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
TheMuse Donating Member (120 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 02:34 PM
Response to Original message
25. This is what they do
They make outlandish threats over and over, but in the end they won't do anything. Why? Because I believe China would abandon them. China isn't like Russia in some ideological war with the US, China wants to become the worlds #1 GDP and a superpower (if they aren't already). Going to war with the US and pretty much guaranteeing WW3 would kind of hinder that goal.

North Korea knows this. But they feel they have to threaten and look tough, so that their people think they are much more powerful than they really are.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DefenseLawyer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 03:42 PM
Response to Original message
27. Hasn't that been the official policy of the United States since the end of WWII?
Oh but when North Korea says they will leave all options on the table if attacked they are crazy. When we say it as a routine matter of policy for the last 60 years it's a strong foreign policy based on peace through deterrence. Got it.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
sofa king Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 03:52 PM
Response to Original message
29. Can atheistic communist dictatorships even throw holy wars?
They probably don't really have nuclear weapons, either. Why spend all that money on a bomb when you already have all the secrecy you need to pretend you have one for free?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Prometheus Bound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 05:16 PM
Response to Original message
30. What? NK would fight back if attacked? Report them to the UN.
Call them names. This Afghanistan disease seems to be spreading. We hear Iran saying the same thing.

Fight back if attacked? My word, what is this world coming to?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Aug-28-10 09:23 PM
Response to Original message
31. Fighting back when attacked is normal.
"Holy" needn't have religious meaning. Holy or sacred can have secular content as well, such as the sacred rights of the people to national sovereignty or even holy war to defend a homeland against invasion.
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
Francesca9 Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Aug-29-10 02:13 PM
Response to Original message
34. A dictator with nukes ...
There are 27,000 American troops with 7 miles of the border. Say he nukes 10,000 - what then? Legally, the war never ended.

He is dying, so what does he have to lose?
Printer Friendly | Permalink |  | Top
 
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) Click to send private message to this author Click to view 
this author's profile Click to add 
this author to your buddy list Click to add 
this author to your Ignore list Sun May 05th 2024, 04:31 PM
Response to Original message
Advertisements [?]
 Top

Home » Discuss » Latest Breaking News Donate to DU

Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators


Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.

Home  |  Discussion Forums  |  Journals |  Store  |  Donate

About DU  |  Contact Us  |  Privacy Policy

Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.

© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC