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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:25 AM
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Sarkozy looks to strip citizenship from those who threaten police
Source: reuters

REUTERS - President Nicolas Sarkozy said on Friday he wanted to strip French nationality from anyone of foreign origin who threatened the life of a police officer, in a crackdown after riots shook two French towns this month.
Speaking in Grenoble, where street violence erupted in mid-July after a local man died fleeing police after allegedly holding up a casino, Sarkozy said he also wanted to increase prison sentences for violent crimes.

"French nationality should be stripped from anybody who has threatened the life of a police officer or anybody involved in public policing," Sarkozy said.
...
The conservative leader has failed to reduce violent crime despite tougher policing following widespread riots in 2005. Neighbourhoods remain stricken by high youth unemployment, poor public services, drug trafficking and a rise in gun crime.

Read more: http://www.france24.com/en/20100730-sarkozy-looks-strip-citizenship-threaten-security-forces-french-immigration



"from anyone of foreign origin who threatened the life of a police officer".

why - does it feel more liberal if it's a born-french doing it?
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marmar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:26 AM
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1. Napoleon redux.
nt

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:28 AM
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2. OK, if ""French nationality should be stripped from anybody", than include any, not just those of
"foreign origin". This guy could win big here in America running on the Teapublican ticket.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:28 AM
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3. what's wrong with this
naturalized citizens who break the law should lose their citizenship



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PSPS Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:30 AM
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4. Sure. After all, there are 'real' citizens and those other pesky 'pretend' citizens, right?
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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:41 AM
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6. It worked for the Nazis

They declared Jewish businesses to be enemies of the state and claimed they were not real Germans. They then revoked the owner's German citizenship and then sent them off to prison before shipping them to the Polish ghettos.

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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:44 AM
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7. you're comparing deportation of naturalized citizens
to the mass murder of 6 million people?

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Tempest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:54 AM
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9. It didn't start with the murder of 6 million people

It started with draconian laws like this one.

And it won't end with the murder of 6 million people, but there will be deaths of those deported who will face persecution in their home country.

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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:24 AM
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17. The US can "strip" citizenship from naturalized citizens
IIRC, they removed citizenship from John Demnaniuk, who was a Nazi death camp guard who lied about his identity on his paperwork/application for citizenship.
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:05 PM
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23. The analysis might be -- they are not actually naturalized
if there was fraud in the application process.
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Kolesar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 07:20 PM
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25. "Had his fingers crossed behind his back"
I believe you are correct.
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 09:44 PM
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28. draconian law?
deporting immigrants who break the law is hardly draconian

and you're assuming the immigrants are all political exiles or something along those lines

even if they are; they should know better than to break the law in the country that gave them asylum

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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:39 AM
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12. So you're for having a second class of citizens? If one has citizenship, the law should apply
equally no matter what 'type' of citizenship it is.
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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:11 AM
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15. you sum it up correctly..the law must apply equally to all !
no ifs or buts.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:32 AM
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5. Boy if we stripped citizenship from
those Americans who threaten our Democrats we'd have a heck of lot of them being thrown out. And we'd need a lot of special elections to replace those republican politicians.
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Catherina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 09:54 AM
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8. Sarkozy is a sack of shit n/t
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:03 AM
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10. Odd that
when I alluded to the fact that your SOS is too it was deleted.
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Ter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:50 PM
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21. I assume you mean Mrs.Clinton
It's not odd, here at DU it's legal to highly insult ("sack of shit" comment) a foreign leader, but against the rules to do it to a prominent Democrat. Criticism is allowed of Democrats, name calling isn't.
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 04:42 PM
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24. I did not call her that
Edited on Fri Jul-30-10 05:12 PM by dipsydoodle
and it would be wrong of me to repeat the allusion used.

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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 10:13 AM
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11. k&r so more may see this. Sarko would love those pesky Algerians to go back home
Stripping naturalization citizen status from someone is wrong. THe only way this should apply is if it applied to every French national.

Even then, wrong Sarko.
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roxiejules Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:06 AM
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13. 45 Police Officers and their families
were forced to leave their town of Grenoble after immigrants from the Middle East and Africa issued death threats against them, including the use of rocket launchers. It is a very serious situation.

http://www.fdesouche.com/125801-grenoble-tensions-dans-le-quartier-de-la-villeneuve


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Swagman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:12 AM
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16. serious indeed..throw the book at them
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Pavlovs DiOgie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:09 AM
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14. Becoming a naturalized citizen is a gift, not a right
Why someone would poop all over such a wonderful gift is beyond me. I have to say I agree with Sarkozy.
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atreides1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:16 PM
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19. No it isn't
Do you know what people have to go through in order to get citizenship in the US?


Get born in the US, citizenship is given, a gift, becoming a citizen through the naturalization process, that's earned.

And where the hell do people in France get missile launchers from anyway?
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activa8tr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 11:33 AM
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18. Maybe he could run for Governor in AZ !!
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truthisfreedom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 01:17 PM
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20. Ahh, make them some other country's problem.
Nice.
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Laughing Mirror Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jul-30-10 02:38 PM
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22. Will Sarkozy's new repressive measures bring back the far-right voters?
That's that question.

Most of the far right abandoned Sarkozy after voting him into power three years ago, and they returned to their natural home, Jean-Marie Le Pen's Front National. Will stripping citizenships and deporting Roms, among two of Sarkozy's latest schemes, help bring those extreme right wingers back to the Sarkozy camp for the elections in two years?

He's hit new lows in popularity, as loved now as his idol George Bush, and he definitely needs the Front National vote to hold onto power. Will they give it to him again?

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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 12:55 AM
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26. add him & Joe Arpaeo(or however you spell it) 2 morons from the same
hateful pod.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jul-31-10 08:13 PM
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27. How ironic. An ethnic Hungarian complaining others arent French enough.
Go back to Budapest, Sarkozy, and hang out with your Arrow Cross buddies.
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