Feds Cancel Flight on 'Psychic' Bomb Tip

[mouse7]

Feds Cancel Flight on 'Psychic' Bomb Tip
Sat Mar 27,11:39 AM ET

FORT MYERS, Fla. - A self-described psychic's tip that a bomb might be on a plane prompted a search with bomb-sniffing dogs that turned up nothing suspicious, but forced the cancelation of the flight.

American Airlines Flight 1304 at Southwest Florida International Airport was canceled Friday because some crew members had exceeded their work hours by the time the search was finished, officials said.

The purported psychic's call was "unusual," conceded Doug Perkins, local administrator for the federal Transportation Security Administration director.

"But in these times, we can't ignore anything. We want to take the appropriate measures," he said...."

http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=519&ncid=519&e=6&u=/ap/20040327/ap_on_re_us/brf_psychic_plane_search

Good to know all that money spent on homeland security improvments and humint resources hasn't been wasted. :eyes:

[yardwork]

1. Oh for crying out loud.

[saigon68]

23. Reading tea leaves next? Looking at the hair on Caterpillars

Please feel free to add to the list

[mobuto]

2. I have a premonition

that George Bush will defeated in November. Please investigate this possibility.

[nodictators]

14. Investigate? NO! Cancel? YES!!!

One can imagine the headlines:

Bush Cancels Presidential Election

Vows to Avenge Terrorist Attack on San Francisco

Declares Himself President for Life

[lazarus]

3. "the appropriate measures"

would be to ignore psychics. What an idiot. Perkins should be fired.

[DerBeppo]

4. not crazy

how do they know that the "psychic" isn't some whackjob who knows there's a bomb on a plane because he or she put it there?

if anyone calls an airport and says there's a bomb on a plane i'll gladly wait for the next flight rather than risk being sprinkled over dustbowl like confetti.

[Canuckistanian]

5. Must have been the same psychic

That predicted the stockpiles of WMD's!

[mouse7]

12. "No bomb under here."

"How about over here... nope..."

[darkstar]

6. IMO, allowing this to happen kinda blurs the line

between bomb threats and...ah...bullshit. You mean to tell me I could parlay my pre-cognition that Bush would bad for the U.S. into "psychic" status and call in my hunch re: a bomb and not be in any sort of trouble?


Seriously. Dangerous precedent, IMO.

[classics]

7. How is this not making a bomb threat against a flight?

This guy should be in jail. Just because his 'psychic friend' told him to call in the threat does not make him innocent.

[darkstar]

8. Exactly.

:toast:

[ck4829]

9. I wonder how much Homeland (In)Security is depending on Psychics

I wonder if they have Psychics on their payroll? Maybe if I do some cheap parlor tricks I can go work for them and then I'll say "Osama is in Antarctica, declare war on it".

[mouse7]

11. CIA threw lots on money at remote viewing

Courtney Brown hasn't been doing anything since comet Hale/Bopp went by Earth without incident. I'm sure he's free.

[bobthedrummer]

25. Psychic talent is still being recruited. SAIC, for instance, is looking

for employees with special gifts.
http://www.lfr.org/csl/index.html

[AspenRose]

10. I'm so glad

Miss Cleo found a new job!
:eyes:

[mobuto]

13. Miss Cleo

For Immediate Release:

March, 26: In the wake of Richard Clarke's resignation, President Bush will announce today that he has chosen Miss Cleo to replace the disgraced and discredited terrror expert. Miss Cleo will hold the title of Senior Adviser to the President for Counter-Terrorism and Homeland Security and will sit on the National Security Council.

Miss Cleo said in a statement that she is "looking forward, mon, to eight months of anti-terroristic ass-kicking and one month of transition work with the John Kerry Administration."

[mouse7]

15. Here's Courtney Brown's Psi-Tech, too

http://www.psitech.net/

Courtney Brown is the guy who's remote viewing messages broadcast on Art Bell's show about comet Hale-Bopp put the Heaven's Gate cult is such a fine state of mind they decided to return to their "alien makers" via drug overdose.

[Iceburg]

16. Its all part of the Faith-Based Security Plan

developed by Dr.Rice. The psychic's vibe met the new standard of an "actionable belief".
Relax your in good hands ...

[Dover]

17. Sorry folks but dreams, premonitions are full of important

information...sometimes only symbolic, other times precognition of real events. This psychic was likely someone they had worked with successfully before.....not some crank caller.

Even if you can't accept it, the government and several universities have extensive programs that study it and want to learn more about this phenomenon....because it has proved itself time and time again. Interpretation, however, can be faulty. And because it is by nature a 'timeless' realm, many psychics have difficulty with the timing of things. If they ever DID get that consistantly specific there could be a lot of abuse of this gift.

Don't dismiss something out of hand just because YOU don't understand it. Plenty of people recognize the power of the mind and it's apparent "connectivity", even if they don't yet fully understand it. Open minds are the only ones that WILL learn.

[mouse7]

18. Not to base counterterrorism operations on

There's lots of stuff out there we don't have answers too. I don't have a problem with scientific study to find answers. Counter-terrorism operations and policy are not the appropriate laboratory for studying the unknown.

If people want to test such techniques as an additional tool to normal operations, I can live with that. But real investigations have to be ongoing at their normal rate, and it cannot be the only determining factor in deciding actions.

Police departments don't stop ongoing missing persons investigations and let psychics take over. The psychics do whatever they do in addition to normal ongoing police work.

This plane was grounded soley because of a psychic premonition. That's crazy talk.

[Dover]

19. It really depends more on this psychic's track record imo. If they've

proved to be reliable a high percentage of the time, then it's as good or better than other hunches based on flimsey intelligence.

So, I disagree. It's a case-by-case situation. And I, for one, would heed such a warning from a psychic if I had worked with them successfully before. And I certainly wouldn't get on that flight.

[mobuto]

20. Except that there are no psychics

that have proven to be reliable a high percentage of the time. Not one.

[havocmom]

24. Really? You know them all?

Hmmm, there were several cops in my family and they knew and worked with psychics who came through for them pretty regularly. Hard boiled vice cops and special investigators for DAs don't generally bother with tools which don't function well.

Many with a true 'gift' do not seek much notoriety. They often seek just the opposite.

[mobuto]

30. Hard-boiled vice cops?

LOL

Many with a true 'gift' do not seek much notoriety. They often seek just the opposite.


Ok, so most don't seek publicity. But there must be some who do, right? Can you name even one psychic who gets "it right" a high percentage of the time?

[mouse7]

31. "If it ain't broke, don't fix it" category would be different

Anything that has a high-percentage track record in the past for success within a certain team/group is something that isn't broken and shouldn't be fixed.

You could argue the cause all day. Has the "psychic" picked up investigative skills along the way that might make the "premonition" no more than an intuitive leap? Is the investigator's "gut instinct" really a "psychic occurance?" That's unknown.

You say you wouldn't have gotten on the plane. You would have been wrong and would be sitting in the airport for the next flight for no reason here. Let's be honest. There just aren't a whole lot of people who have verified track records in this field. The vast majority are frauds. I sincerly doubt if this tip came in from one of the "talented few."

[havocmom]

21. well said, Dover

While healthy cynicism is good, an open, curious mind to go with it is better. People who are so absolutely positive there is nothing to these experiences are just as guilty of 'believing'in something which cannot, as yet, be proven (that there is no such thing as precognition) as those they mock for believing in something which cannot, as yet be proven (that there is precognition).

[Dover]

22. Yes. And I think we need better "interpreters" of the information

that the mind provides us. And that won't happen without acceptance first.
Dream interpretation used to be considered a divine art known to priests who would work with the dreamer to help them with interpretation.

[mouse7]

32. Prove it works and you'll get acceptance. Not until.

You need scientific data and lab reports that back your claims of success. Until you have those to show to people, it's not going to be taken seriously.

If you want to be taken serious, go into a lab and prove it using the scientific method.

[Jacobin]

26. LOL. "Faith Based"Security

Only in a Bush* administration would we read crap like this.

[BadGimp]

27. I saw Osama's face in my mocha capicino (non fat of course)

should I be scared?

[boobooday]

28. We can't ignore anything?

OH MY GOD.

Those people must have been PISSED!

http://www.wgoeshome.com

[Rex]

29. OMG! I just felt a disturbance in the Force!

No, wait, it was just gas. Quick, alert the Feds! Get Jonny Ashcrap on the horn!

[aquart]

33. What alert color was the aura?