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bloomington-lib Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:35 AM
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Planned Temecula Valley mosque draws opposition
Source: Los Angeles Times

Muslims throughout Temecula and Murrieta have saved up for years to build a mosque to replace the plain white industrial building, tucked between a pipeline company and packaging warehouse, where they now gather to pray.

But as the Islamic Center of Temecula Valley moves ahead with plans to build on a four-acre plot of vacant land near Temecula's gentle hills and invading housing developments, plans for the new mosque have stirred hostility in this mostly conservative community in southwest Riverside County.

Karen Fesini, who belongs to a Republican women's group in the Temecula and Murrieta area, said she's been making calls to warn her friends about the project.

"They say they're not radicals, but how do we know?"' said Fesini, 68. "Right now we're at war with the Taliban and the Muslims and our boys are over there fighting and dying for our freedom. What would it be like if they come home and found out we just let them in the front door?"

Read more: http://articles.latimes.com/2010/jul/18/local/la-me-mosque-20100718
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Regret My New Name Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:39 AM
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1. Who's to say they're not brain eating aliens from Mars too?
You just never know...


idiots.
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David__77 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 01:56 PM
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18. That's their "logic."
Definitely.
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3waygeek Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:11 PM
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24. If they were,
they'd starve if they moved into Temecula.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:43 AM
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2. Is this kind of bigotry really mainstream?
It seems like it is.
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izquierdista Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:48 AM
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3. It's Temecula
She would hate you if you were gay or Hispanic or black or Asian too.
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6000eliot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:29 PM
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22. Well, I'm gay, so there you go.
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 05:30 PM by 6000eliot
But it's even happening in NYC.
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:08 PM
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23. Yep.
There was brain-dead kneejerk outrage even on DU over that "mosque" being built several blocks from Ground Zero.
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secondwind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:05 AM
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4. bigoted woman with hate and fear etched into her mind....
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:30 AM
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5. Think of all of those who died on 9/11, it's a crime to place a mosque so close to ground zero
Yes, that's :sarcasm:
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cartach Donating Member (361 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:36 AM
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6. It's starting !
And once people start allowing this kind of blatant bigotry then it will be too late to turn the tide. Get ready for class warfare.
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saigon68 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:41 AM
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7. blatant bigotry
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Kali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 08:58 AM
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8. seems like authoritarian, conservative assholes would welcome same
(no I don't mean all Islam, I mean the exact perception-projection wingnut have of Muslims)
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:01 AM
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9. Make them wear a yellow crescent armband.
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denverbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:15 AM
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10. Sure lady. And your grandma probably felt the same way about Jews. n/t
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:17 AM
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11. Just up the street:


Front door: open! :sarcasm:
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LeFleur1 Donating Member (973 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:21 AM
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12. Sounds Just Like the Hysteria Concerning Japanese
during WWII. We never learn.

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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:31 AM
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13. I will say this though: my community has one of (if not THE) biggest mosques in NA
and we don't have any problems here because of it. News crews and "national journalists" couldn't be less interested. I remember after 9/11, we heard about muslims being assaulted, even killed. A responsible media might have noted the lack of such things here in my community, but largely did not even bring a camera here.

Which just goes to show you--the world that they chose for you to see is not the "real world"!
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madmax Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 04:38 PM
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20. It's a beautiful building. nt
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cstanleytech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:43 AM
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14. "They say they're not radicals, but how do we know?"' said Fesini
Yes Fesini, how do we know?? I mean if we used that logic then we should oppose every catholic church because how do we know that its not not really being funded by a group of boy molesting pedophiles trying to seduce our children???
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mbperrin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:47 AM
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15. Good gawd! There's TWO mosques in Midland, Texas, right
next door. Never raised an eyebrow here.

http://islamicvalley.com/prod/entitySearch.php/t/09L/s/TX/c/Midland

More right wing hateful and bigoted than Midland? PROBLEM!!!
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:16 AM
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16. Karen Fesini sounds like a small minded bigot...
well mainly because that is what she is.


I'm sure her friends did plenty of eye rolling with those phone calls.

PLUS WHAT KIND OF NAME IS FESINI... A QUICK GOOGLE SEARCH SHOWS MIDDLE EASTERN, COMMUNIST AND CHINESE SITES...


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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 10:34 AM
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17. So they are more likely to be radicals in a new mosque than in the one they are using now??
:wtf:

Just ignorant hate.
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 03:00 PM
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19. You are using logic, she is using ....
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armodem08 Donating Member (186 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:14 PM
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21. Some terminal stupidity in those quotes.
"The Islamic foothold is not strong here, and we really don't want to see their influence spread," said Pastor Bill Rench.

"There is a concern with all the rumors you hear about sleeper cells and all that. Are we supposed to be complacent just because these people say it's a religion of peace? Many others have said the same thing," he said."


Karen Fesini, who belongs to a Republican women's group in the Temecula and Murrieta area, said she's been making calls to warn her friends about the project.

"They say they're not radicals, but how do we know?"' said Fesini, 68.

"Right now we're at war with the Taliban and the Muslims and our boys are over there fighting and dying for our freedom. What would it be like if they come home and found out we just let them in the front door?"


Wow. Just wow.
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haele Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:03 PM
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25. Yea, there aren't any Muslims in the US military, fighting in Afghanistan...
Oh, wait, yes there are.
I'm not surprised, though - according to an old friend that grew up there when Temecula was naught but a couple large several generations worth of ranches, a former Stage depot, Travelodge and Gas Station blip at the 215 branch to either Lake Elsinore and Riverside/March Air Force Base, Temecula is full of developments that sprang up when the over-privileged heirs sold off back in the 80's through 90's because there was no longer any money in family ranching...
People first moved there as part of, frankly, middle class white-flight; cheap, "safe" housing away from the big cities where a family could re-live the Roy Rodgers days. An hour commute (one way) to your job in OC or San Diego, but you could ensure your family was living away from all that corrupting influences of liberal modern life. And you could make sure your little girl had a pony - that is, until the developments started breeding incrementally because the cities of LA and San Diego kept spreading out, I-15 expanded to handle suburban traffic - and the land could be bought in large chunks, had a reasonable amount of aquifer for water, and was reasonably flat and easy to develop.
Even the "live and let live" Quaker community around there turned themselves into the Dick Nixon/Orange County brand of Quaker - one that took more from holier than thou consumerism as pushed by 60's evangelical hucksters than the community envisioned by William Penn.

Haele
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and-justice-for-all Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 09:55 PM
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26. I bet if some one wanted to build a church there...
then there would be no issues I bet.
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