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alp227 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:48 PM
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EMT who was accused of negligence killed in Sunday shooting
Source: CNN

New York (CNN) -- An EMT worker who was involved in a controversial incident in which a pregnant woman died last year was shot and killed Sunday, New York police said.

Authorities said they had no immediate link between the EMT's shooting and the widely publicized case last year but that would be an aspect of their investigation.

"That part of the case will be investigated by NYPD. We will be in touch with Manhattan detectives who will be investigating the murder (of the EMT)," Brooklyn District Attorney spokesman Jerry Schmetterer.

The case involving the EMT -- Jason Green -- and a pregnant woman occurred in Brooklyn last December 9.

The woman, Eutisha Rennix, was working as a waitress at a cafe when she collapsed. Rennix's coworkers said Green and a fellow EMT were in the cafe when Rennix collapsed but the two EMTs reportedly told the co-workers to call 911 and left the cafe without aiding the stricken woman.

Read more: http://www.cnn.com/2010/CRIME/07/18/new.york.emt.shot/index.html



Hmm, lemme guess. Retaliation by the woman's still-grieving partner?
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 07:51 PM
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1. Okay I have a question
Going back to the incident where the pregnant woman died

If these guys were EMT 911 dispatchers wouldn't they know some basic first aid?
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Stargazer09 Donating Member (625 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:12 PM
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2. If I remember right
Some of the EMTs here on DU said that off-duty EMTs aren't allowed to do anything in cases like that. I guess they could be personally liable if something goes wrong when they are trying to help.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:25 PM
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4. One would think they would be protected by the
"Good Sumaritan Law".
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:33 PM
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8. It's my understanding they could have acted
and in uniform they should have. However, from my 25 years of EMT experience I can tell you there is little one can do with out our equipment. If they had coded they could start CPR, but I understand that wasn't the case. In a seizure all they could do is make sure she didn't hurt herself.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:45 AM
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13. agreed. i once responded directly to a scene and got chewed out for it
i once got a call and i was closer to the scene than i was to the squad. so i just went there directly and got there before the police did.

big no-no, i forgot scene safety (though in practice it wasn't an issue, fortunately) but they weren't happy when all i could do was take a history.
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unblock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:42 AM
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12. the basic legal principle is known as "no good deed goes unpunished"
Edited on Mon Jul-19-10 05:42 AM by unblock
good samaritan laws vary from state to state (and i'm not even sure the cover all jurisdictions).
moreover, they often protect only UNtrained responders, and to the extent that someone DOES have training, it only protects them to the extent that they act consistently with their training. otherwise, responders are PERSONALLY liable.

in my training in nj as an emt, they told me, should i see a need for emergency medical assistance when off-duty, that while they weren't advising me to walk away, they were advising me that i have no legal obligation to help and a strong financial incentive not to.

presonally, i can and have called 911 and rendered aid in the one such situation i experienced, but in retrostect i kick myself -- i could have lost my house and life savings and therefore done great harm to my family as a result.

it SUCKS that the law puts people in such a quandry, but that's what it does.
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:31 PM
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7. I'm an EMT in NJ It's my understanding that the EMTs could act
however I will tell you from experience that there is little that can be done with out our medical equipment. If she had coded there on the scene (which I understand she didn't) they could start CPR. Otherwise all they can do for a person seizing is make sure they don't hurt themselves and wait for a unit to arrive (which I just don't think could have made much of a difference).

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madokie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:45 AM
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14. My wife is a nurse and her oath won't allow her to just walk away from an incident like that
I would think that an EMT would be the same.
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SemperEadem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 05:47 AM
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15. a city EMt worker isn't a registered nurse or a doctor
so they don't take oaths.
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pscot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:13 PM
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3. This may seem surprising
but some of us live far from New York. No, even farther than Jersey. So what's EMT?
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NJmaverick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:28 PM
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5. Emergency Medical Technician
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Zephie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 08:28 PM
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6. EMT means Emergency Medical Technician
Ambulences, etc. The people that would be sent out if you called 911 in a medical emergency.
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cowman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 10:19 PM
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9. There are
different levels of EMT, here in NV we have, in order.
1. First Responders
2. EMT-B (Basic)
3. EMT-I (Intermediate)
4. EMT-P (Paramedic)
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Book Lover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 12:14 AM
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11. The initials apply wherever you are, fyi (nm)
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-19-10 07:53 AM
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16. They have EMTs all over the country
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jul-18-10 11:12 PM
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10. And as usual in the comments section of the article
And if read down in to the comments sections, of course the people there always manage to...

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