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The Northerner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:06 PM
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Senate Dems blame BP and Britain for Lockerbie bomber’s release
Source: The Hill

A group of Democratic senators are calling BP and the British government to account for the freeing of a terrorist convicted for the 1988 Lockerbie bombing, a new problem for relations between the United States and Britain.

At a Wednesday press conference, Democratic senators accused the British government of working for the terrorist’s release to help BP win a $900 million oil-drilling deal with Libya.

The controversy could add to strained relations between the United States and Britain, its closest military ally. BP has become a weight on that relationship since a deepwater oil rig it operated in the Gulf of Mexico exploded on April 20, spewing millions of gallons of oil into the ecosystem.

BP has become political public enemy No. 1 in the United States. In Britain, however, it is considered a leading economic engine and its stock is a staple of many pension funds.

American-British relations took another hit Wednesday when four Democratic senators asked for a State Department investigation into the decision to free Abdelbaset al-Megrahi — who was convicted in 2001 — from a Scottish prison.

Read more: http://thehill.com/homenews/senate/108739-senate-democrats-blame-bp-britain-for-lockerbie-bombers-release
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:21 PM
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1. Shouldnt we consider going to war w/the British? what about a payback for 1812
there would not be a language barrier, thats a positive, interrogations would be easier, and it should be a good payback for reality TV! Our troops could follow existing maps and road signs, sounds like a win win! Gotta fix that wrong side of the road thing.

in case it wasnt obvious, this is satire and/or :sarcasm: makes about as much sense as what we are doing in the ME.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:23 PM
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3. well actually we're occupying the british zion
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 01:24 PM by sui generis
so if they move back in and just round us up into territories there is at least one fantastic example I can think of where that's already been done, with a nod towards history.

Yes I said that, sorta only half seriously.
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:22 PM
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2. in just about any stink bomb other than your kid's diaper
you can find a trail of ants leading to a money deal. It is not surprising but I also don't think it's unethical if the result of releasing the Lockerbie bomber is that some good could come of it. Punishment AT ALL COSTS is not logical, and if a missed opportunity could be considered a cost, then it would be if not logical, at least intelligent to make that deal.

Having said that, I'll bet that $900 million dollar deal did NOT go into pension funds, victim's families or anyplace other than BP's dividends to its shareholders.

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:32 PM
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4. WOW nelly-bell.
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 01:37 PM by Lost4words
thats a rough view, havent we seen enough corporate skulduggery to even give this story a wait and see????????

I agree that "Punishment AT ALL COSTS is not logical" but bombing an airliner is a major dastardly deed, no?

I strongly believe that this story could have a solid base and time will tell. And if it is true and this criminal was released for corporate $$$ PROFITS $$$ alone somebody should pay big time.. The bombers release apparently not done for humanitarian reasons. And NOBODY likes to be lied to.


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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:37 PM
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5. nelly-bell?
Edited on Wed Jul-14-10 01:37 PM by sui generis
reconsider that please after giving it the attention of more than one brain cell, in the interest of civility.

It was an opinion based on considering the outcome in its own light. As in all ethical issues, if there was a clear cut answer it wouldn't be an issue.

Your judgment of me is unwarranted and uncalled for. My point was not that such a release would have been warranted as an exercise in corporate profit but how such a profit could have benefited more people.

At any rate - I believe I stated as much.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:43 PM
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6. Agreed, I got ahead of myself, it was ment in fun also
re read I was trying to be friendly, if I failed sorry. But I dont feel that there was any judgement against you.

But if it was done it was done to benefit the BP and the crown, so there was no could have other than in your post.

That cash was going to be corp profit nothing else

I'll re read my nelly-bel post. and if I did make an attack on you I will remove. Im not tazing you bro!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:51 PM
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12. grin
I was grousing more about the term nelly-bell :P some of us manly men gay dudes just don't fit the description.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:52 PM
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13. dont grin yet you are 1 post behind my one brain cell!!!!!!
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:59 PM
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15. Nelly Bell was the name of a jeep on Roy Rogers sorry
about the confusion, but now that I realize that I did not snark you but you snarked me I responded indirectly double snarky.

Lets put this to rest and be just be DU comrades, OK with you?

:headbang: I always thought this icon was holding a piece sign, I am not sure.

Over and out
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:01 PM
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16. peace bro
elvis needs a peanut butter nanner sammich - this no carb thing is making me one mean bug eating man bitch. :P
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:20 PM
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20. You Go................
:-)
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:48 PM
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7. I reread & there is no attack on your character, in fact I agreed with you
on the justice thing. Smoke em if you got em, drink em if you need em.

In fact this line of yours reconsider that please after giving it the attention of more than one brain cell, in the interest of civility Now thats SNARKY!

You owe ME the apology edgy friend!!
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sui generis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:54 PM
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14. okay, I interpreted
nelly bell as a colloquial form of "faggot", if somewhat unintended, hence the snark.

That's all. No harm no foul.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:15 PM
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18. +1 that ended nice! Please read this,......
Oh I get it indeed. At the dawn of time I was young white kid in Missouri, things were pretty much still segrated then. My parents taugh me to respect others so I really didnt hang with hateful downer types. My buds at school would refer to each other as BOY, (you see whats comming) I was working in a dept store in the city and I had no issues with others and well one day I was in the checkout lane and a black man I knew that worked in the auto shop walked up, we always had good talks and I truly liked the guy, I said hello by saying Hey Boy How Ya doing in front of other whites, OMG! He could have broken me in half but he gave a very approiate verbal slam down. I had NO Idea what I had said! Needless to say that was a lesson I never fogot. (that was forgot OK)humor)
I think what impacted me the most was how I had been so clumsy, our friendship ended by his choosing at that moment.
I respect to this day how he handeled it, he was a good man. Since I have matured somewhat and have lived in very diverse areas and have many friends across the spectrum, but I still stay away from hateful people.

:pals:

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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:48 PM
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8. I reread & there is no attack on your character, in fact I agreed with you
on the justice thing. Smoke em if you got em, drink em if you need em.

In fact this line of yours reconsider that please after giving it the attention of more than one brain cell, in the interest of civility Now thats SNARKY!

You owe ME the apology edgy friend!!
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:49 PM
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10. A Lady or Gentleman would take the opportunity to offer an Apology!
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:48 PM
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9. A friend of mine (from Scotland) was talking about this 2 weeks ago.
He's outraged.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 01:51 PM
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11. very few wouldnt be outraged nor would consider joaking about it
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dipsydoodle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:04 PM
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17. I think they must be on something.
He was sent to Libya to prevent a new trial following the Scottish judges concluding there had been a mis-trial. There were serious doubts he would be found guilty again.

It was in the interest of both governments to simply let him go.

Investigate away - won't lead anywhere or achieve anything.
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Lost4words Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 02:19 PM
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19. Its all for show most of the time any way.
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Nihil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jul-15-10 11:11 AM
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21. Don't worry ...
... the investigation will stop dead and all reports will tail off
in embarrassed murmurs when they find out the extent of the FBI & CIA
involvement in the cover-up ... oops ... "mistrial" ...

> There were serious doubts he would be found guilty again.

There was absolutely no chance that he would be found guilty again
and that would really shine a light on a lot of things that several
countries would rather stayed in the dark.

(And yes, you can interpret that phrase equally both ways!)
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