Judge blocks new Neb. abortion screening law

[cal04]

Source: Associated Press

A federal judge on Wednesday blocked a new Nebraska law requiring mental health screenings for women seeking abortions until a lawsuit filed against it is decided.

U.S. District Judge Laurie Smith Camp granted Planned Parenthood of the Heartland's request for a preliminary injunction against the law, which was supposed to take effect Thursday.

Planned Parenthood said the law could be difficult to comply with and requires doctors to give information irrelevant to abortions.

State officials have said it is designed to make sure women understand the risks and complications that may accompany an abortion.

Read more: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100714/ap_on_re_us/us_nebraska_abortion_laws

[Heidi]

1. Reco-dang-mmended.

:kick:

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[sinkingfeeling]

2. Where are the laws requiring doctors to tell women about the risks and complications that may

accompany 9 months of pregnancy?

[katandmoon]

9. No shit!

[Mark D.]

14. Great Point

Great point.

[musette_sf]

21. I thought that one of the parts of this bill

was that IF the ultrasound revealed any issues or potential issues, the doctor didn't have to tell the woman ANYTHING.

[sinkingfeeling]

22. Wrong state. Oklahoma is the one that passed that crap.

[musette_sf]

28. thanks, couldn't remember which state had that

egregious insult to women.

But, since the reproductive health care laws in OK are similarly punitive, the scenario DOES demonstrate that the object of all this intrusion and building of ever-higher hurdles is NOT in any way for education and information - the object is shaming and punishing women seeking to exercise their rights to freely access reproductive health care options.

[plcdude]

32. the status of that issue in Oklahoma

is as follows: http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/may/03/attorneys-agree-to-block-on-oklahoma-abortion-law/

[musette_sf]

34. hearing scheduled for July

so we should be hearing more about this soon

[lark]

29. Exactly!

Back when I was having children, I saw statistics that 1 in 100 American women die during childbirth - why aren't they telling the women about that! Hopefully this has improved, but I know our results lag behind the rest of the civilized world.

[defendandprotect]

33. Not to mention the immense damage done to women

often in "hospital" and traditional births in hospitals!!

I'm sure you're also aware of the huge numbers of Cesareans and electronic "monitoring"

of fetus we've been doing!!

[Manifestor_of_Light]

65. Hey there, I would have DIED without a C-section.

My ass is too narrow to have a normal sized baby. I'm just petite and small boned and short waisted.

I had an eight pound girl who was jammed into my uterus diagonally. She couldn't even kick much.
I am militant about C-sections for that reason. Even though "childbirth is a natural process, blah blah" some of us cannot have a vaginal birth.

I do not have "pelvic deformity" either. I had NO dilation and NO dropping. ZIP. And that was at term.

And back in the bad old days, one out of THREE women died in childbirth, usually from needed a C section, bleeding to death, or childbed fever, caused by doctors not washing their hands and causing massive septicemia, shock and death.

[LiberalFighter]

48. And in a related issue a stat for this century has stillbirths at the 1 in 200 rate

Both high.

[Axle_techie]

59. When my wife was pregnant in cali

they drilled the possible detriments of carrying to term into our heads quite well. every time they suggested a test, they told us every likelihood of what it could cause. I was rather impressed with how well informed (read scared in reference to my wife) they kept us... Heck, at birth, they even warned me not to watch the epidural in case I pass out. I watched anyways.

[ehrnst]

61. Or laws that require that they be counseled on abortion options and given lists of providers? (nt)

[EnlightenedOne]

62. Or giving the child up for adoption!

[Soylent Brice]

3. K&R

[Jefferson23]

4. Thank you Judge! I hate to think where we'd be without judges like this. n/t

[defendandprotect]

27. -- or where we'll soon be because the right wing has taken over and

corrupted a large part of these folks!!

That's how they got the original Clinton dirty work done -- re impeachment --

NOT that I'm in any way defending Clinton's open zipper policy -- or many of the

tragic things he did in office -- like trade agreements and overturning 60 years

of welfare guarantees!

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[defendandprotect]

35. Yes . . .

And there's an interesting movie on it -- Elizabeth McGovern -- and

Natasha Richardson -- done in 1990 -- but couldn't tell you if the film was

"abridged" vs the book -- just can't remember the book that clearly.

Just as an aside -- I remember my library celebrating Grace Metalious and PEYTON PLACE

by buying a new copy of it -- we had none -- but it was an abridged copy!!

In some respects the right wing/religious fanatics have taken over a large chunk of my library!

Agree re Vatican -- recovering Catholic here --

They're now moving on to China and Africa -- where their new fortunes are to be found!




BTW - clinton was wrong to allow the repeal of Glass/Stegall (sp?) however FMLA was probably the most worker friendly law passed since the initial approval for unions and disallowing child labor.

What's Obama done that's truly worker friendly?


Agree re Glass-Steagall -- but you know Sen. Byron Dorgan was fighting for it only a few months

ago -- and for negotiation on Medicare drugs -- and he got totally iced by Democrats --

leadership . . . and then he announced his resignation!

All of New Deal should be replaced --

I'm a little dense at the moment on FMLA -- ???

[PSzymeczek]

52. The movie was seriously abridged

in comparison to the movie. The book is scary because the people who want it to come to pass are still prominent.

[defendandprotect]

54. Truth be told . . . my problem might have been that ...

I didn't get all the way thru the book --

like watching a Nazi movie --

The Handmaiden movie was frightening enough --

One day I'll have to try to find it in library and browse it again --

what are the differences -- if you have time to tell -- ?

[rpannier]

55. Catholics and rightwingers???

All Catholics want that

[sharp_stick]

5. I have to slow down to read the subject.

I read "Judge backs new Neb. abortion screening law" instead of blocks and my blood pressure shot up into danger territory before I realized what the subject line really said.

This is good news.

[DainBramaged]

6. Where is the law to prevent teh stoopid from procreating?

[mnhtnbb]

7. "Ignorant and proud of it" is the motto of Nebraska--which I determined from living there 6 years

with apologies to OmahaSteve. Yes, I know there are some good progressives in NE--just not nearly
enough of them to overcome the right wing religious nuts and right wing farmers.

[defendandprotect]

37. Does news reach them slowly . . or are they still operating in 1945 time frame . . .?

Or what is your analysis?

Is there MIC in Nebraska?

[jmowreader]

38. There's only one MIC base in Nebraska, but it's important

Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska, is headquarters for US Strategic Command, one of the 10 Unified Commands in the Department of Defense. LOTS of generals in that place.

[defendandprotect]

40. Offutt Air Force Base . . . that should ring a few bells -- !!!

That's the base that W took refuge at after flying around all day hiding in Air Froce

One --

They had had a big celebration there beginning at 8am that morning -- as I recall it --

lots of people from the World Trade Center were there --

9/11 -- MIHOP



There's only one MIC base in Nebraska, but it's important
Offutt Air Force Base, Nebraska, is headquarters for US Strategic Command, one of the 10 Unified Commands in the Department of Defense. LOTS of generals in that place.

[mnhtnbb]

44. It's an attitude. Right wing Catholicism is overwhelming. Enlightenment

is not prevalent.

[shanti2]

47. I wouldn't move to Nebraska with my husband

as some of them are so ignorant and as you say- very proud of
it.

[mnhtnbb]

50. Welcome to DU--from just down the road in Chapel Hill!

:hi:

[newfie11]

60. Hey, not all of us are ignorant and proud of it

Having lived near Liberty/Siler City NC, I can tell you Nebraska doesn't even come close to the ignorance and proud of it I found There.
To bad you didn't give the rest of us a try.

[valerief]

8. The idiots who introduced and passed this obscene law need mental health screenings. nt

[Demeter]

39. +1000

or at least an IQ test.

[Myrina]

10. ... I would assume if one is not mentally fit to understand ...

... the implications of an abortion, they're certainly nowhere near fit to go through pregnancy, the birthing process, and ultimate parenting of said child. D'oh??

[DesertDiamond]

18. That was my very first thought.

[kimmylavin]

51. Reminds me of that bumper sticker:

"If you can't trust me with a choice, how can you trust me with a child?"

[JBoy]

11. Funny how there's no law proposed to address the risks of vasectomies, or taking Viagra

[SILVER__FOX52]

12. If it were not for Judges like this............

Republicans would still be marrying their sisters.

[Guilded Lilly]

13. SO profoundly insulting.

"State officials have said it is designed to make sure women understand the risks and complications that may accompany an abortion."

Bull.

It is to control and demean women.

Will these same state officials pass a law requiring the sperm donor of the pregnancy to pay for the cost of all medical care, pregnancy costs and raising the child to full adulthood because after all, women are too stupid to grasp things and we want to make sure impregnators understand the risks and complications that may accompany using their penis?

[deacon_sephiroth]

20. agreed

Seems like more of a ploy to put these women on parade and set up possible roadblocks and red tape until the process is too dificult to accomplish wihout a lawyer and a healthy income bracket.

[classof56]

24. Could not agree more, GL!

You hit the nail on the head!

[Hepburn]

41. +1

Exactly!

[AzDar]

15. Very good news.

:thumbsup:

[Oldtimeralso]

16. K & R and proud to be # 50 n/t

[pattmarty]

17. I didn't realize that that's what this recent challenge was about.............

...........I hate to say this, but I didn't even read anything on this and just figured it was "another" challenge about god's intervention or some such shit. But to have EVERY woman that wants a LEGAL procedure to undergo basically a medical competence test that, even if ALL passed, would be on your "record". That is unacceptable and fascist.

[1monster]

19. Wouldn't mental health screenings for women seeking pregnancy be more

to the point?

[classof56]

23. I say amen to that! n/t

[defendandprotect]

36. Right ... we've got this booming "fertility clinic" stuff going on now decades . . .

evidently male sperm count has dropped drastically --

bit money maker there -- and produces a lot of multiple pregnancies!!

[xchrom]

25. recommend

[CoffeeCat]

26. Because Republicans want smaller government???

Yeah, that's right. Republican extremists will whine all day long
about big government, and Obama taking over their lives--but they
will vociferously advocate for the government to psychologically
analyze a woman before she has a legal medical procedure.

These people are such hypocrites! So glad they've been told
that their ideas are legally ludicrous.

[ooglymoogly]

31. With a DINO senator like Ben Nelsen

you can see just how scary these folks are; Where ignorance is worn as a mark of pride, sometimes even as a rug.

[pleah]

42. K&R

[greymattermom]

43. how about

requiring mental health exams for men seeking treatment for "ED". Those drugs do increase STDs.

[Guilded Lilly]

46. bravo :) n/t

[demigoddess]

45. want to know who is maddest that I have a handicapped child??

pro-lifers, people against abortion, who are also against allowing these children in schools.. One teacher said it was bad because our children are messy. A woman walked up to the street and shook her finger at me. And many republican, pro-life relatives do not want to see her in person, any where near them. I love this judge and hope there are more like her.

[uncommon]

49. They really will try anything to keep women from controlling their own bodies. Fuckers. nt

[Crunchy Frog]

53. People who are not psychologically fit for abortions will make the best parents.

[femrap]

56. May Nebraska join the

21st century. If not, put their women in burqas. And let the women in those burqas have much weaponry under those burqas.

[colsohlibgal]

57. Bottom Line

I pretty much agree with the thoughts of more than few people, mostly women, that basically say that if men could become pregnant early term abortions would be a non issue, clinics would be as visible and abundant as 7-11's.

[pinboy3niner]

58. K&R!

[Triana]

63. I don't think it's the women seeking abortions who don't understand something....

...it's the self-righteous control freaks who are trying to own and control those womens' bodies, lives and wombs who lack understanding. Perhaps THEY ought to be required to submit to some psychiatric examination. I think so.

[No Elephants]

64. Making a reproductive choice different from the one the RW would force on you is a sign of insanity?