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cal04 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:56 AM
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Sen Ben Nelson says will back Wall St bill
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 10:59 AM by cal04
Source: Reuters

U.S. Democratic Senator Ben Nelson said on Tuesday he will back a historic rewrite of financial regulations, likely giving the bill enough votes to win final approval in Congress.

"I will support the Wall Street reform bill to end bailouts, add common sense consumer protections and make sure that Nebraska Main Street businesses are not adversely affected as we rein in recklessness on Wall Street," Nelson said in a prepared statement.



Nelson ensures 60 votes for bank regulation bill
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100713/ap_on_bi_ge/us_financial_overhaul_19

Read more: http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSWEN690320100713
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:57 AM
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1. WOW! I cant believe it.. wonder what changed his mind?
They better not have given that sorry bastard anything.
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Dr.Phool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:09 AM
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4. A woman, who looked suspiciously like Harry Reid,
Was spotted entering Nelsons office, wearing lingerie.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:11 AM
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5. Eeesh!
:)
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davidinalameda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:36 AM
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11. that's just nasty
Harry Reid would make one damn ugly woman

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Iowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:57 PM
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25. Hilarious!
:rofl:
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RUMMYisFROSTED Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 09:35 AM
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34. The completion of the watering down. nt
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bluestateguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:02 AM
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2. It's done. It will pass.
You can always count on Ben Nelson to vote for a bill-----once you water it down and take most of the good stuff out of it.
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joeybee12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:03 AM
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3. If anyone needed proof the bill is essentially a gift to Wall Street...
...look no farther.
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katandmoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:14 AM
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6. Thank you.
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florida08 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:14 AM
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7. agreed
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disillusioned73 Donating Member (963 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:22 AM
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8. Looks like the kabuki dance has been completed
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:29 AM
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9. I know, I know, the real proof of the gift is that...
the repubs aren't trying to filibuster it....oh, wait a minute....yes they are...damn guess they don't recognize the 'gift' you seem to see.

Oh, and btw, Nelson's vote became irrelevant when West Virginia Governor announced he will appoint Byrd's temporary replacement by Sunday. I suspect that is why he suddenly decided to support the bill, it is typical Nelson.

West Virginia Governor Expects to Fill Byrd Seat by Sunday

CHARLESTON, W.Va. – West Virginia Gov. Joe Manchin says he'll make a temporary appointment to the late Robert C. Byrd's Senate seat by Sunday.

Manchin said Monday he could announce his pick as early as Friday. Once he does that, he'll say whether he plans to run for the seat in November.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=433x372163

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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 06:13 PM
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27. they are just blocking everything; and you know it. thank God people don't
judge a bill by how Republicans do or do not react to it. they're no barometer.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 06:26 PM
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30. Gosh, you may have a point there...
it is not at all unlike how some on the left spit on any reform bill put forward by the Obama Administration simply because it IS the Obama Administration regardless of the real changes contained in said bills.

Barometers ARE funny things, aren't they!
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harun Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:55 AM
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12. Abso-frikken lutely.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:10 PM
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17. Not according to Elizabeth Warren, Sheila Blair, or Booksley Born
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 01:10 PM by karynnj
Here is Born:


In the 1990’s, Brooksley Born, who chaired the Commodity Futures Trading Commission at the time, tried to warn federal bank regulators, including Federal Reserve Chairman Alan Greenspan, about the www.stanfordalumni.org/news/magazine/2009/marapr/featur... |dangers of over-the-counter derivatives>. To put it mildly, her alarm-sounding did not go over well:

Of course, as we now know, the huge, opaque derivatives market helped to unleash a financial cataclysm, particularly by imploding the insurance giant AIG. “No federal or state public official had any idea what was going on in those markets, so enormous leverage was permitted, enormous borrowing,” Born said. “There was also little or no capital being put up as collateral for the transactions.”

Since Born saw the problems with the derivatives market where so many others didn’t, it’s significant that she has lent her support to the financial regulatory reform package that passed the House this week and is due for a vote in the Senate when the July 4th recess ends. “(The bill) is an important step forward in regulating the over-the counter derivatives market and I very much hope it is enacted into law,” Born said.

Despite the unfortunate watering down of the provision forcing banks to spin their derivatives trading desks into separately capitalized entities, the derivatives title of the Dodd-Frank financial reform bill is quite strong. It places standardized derivatives trades onto public exchanges (like the stock exchange) and forces customized trades to be cleared by clearinghouses (avoiding an AIG-type situation where one party to a trade has insufficient capital on hand to back it up). This is getting lost in the drama surrounding Sen. Scott Brown’s (R-MA) hemming and hawing over the bill, but it’s an important set of reforms that needs to become law.


Far more at the link:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=433&topic_id=363262

and Elizabeth Warren:

It has been more than 20 months since the largest financial crisis since the Great Depression, and we are still living under the same set of rules we had in place before the meltdown. Thanks to the leadership of President Obama, Chairman Frank, and Chairman Dodd, that's about to change. Members of the House-Senate conference committee and their staffs worked through the night to produce the strongest set of Wall Street reforms in three generations. They created a strong, independent consumer agency that will have the tools to rein in industry tricks and traps and to cut out the fine print. For the first time, there will be a financial regulator in Washington watching out for families instead of banks."


or Sheila Blair:
http://economistsview.typepad.com/economistsview/2010/06/sheila-bair-on-too-big-to-fail.html

These are three women of impeccable credibility on this issue - all known for their integrity.

ALL THIS IS FROM PROSENSE posts.
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backscatter712 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:08 PM
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22. Indeed. Wall Street is pissed, and switching all their campaign donations to Republicans...
which makes me like the bill! :evilgrin:
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:14 PM
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24. It's better than nothing,
So of course the support it over the alternative. However, it is far short of efffective, still allowing too big to fail. Wall St. of course is going to side with Repugs who always want no real controls on big business at all. It's still a shame that they couldn't just put Glass Stegall back in place and we'd have true effective control - but that's not what they want.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 05:02 PM
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26. The Volker rule has the same function
The key was to have a wall between riskier speculative trading and banking - at least only 3% of bank funds are allowed to be traded.
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lark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:09 PM
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23. Bingo to you and poster above
:toast:
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:36 AM
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10. "historic"? histrionic maybe but hardly historic.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:12 PM
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18. You know more than people like Brooksley Born, Sheila Blair, and Elizabeth Warren?
The fact is it is the biggest, most comprehensive new regulation since FDR.
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:15 PM
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19. Big and comprehensive and completely worthless
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:17 PM
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20. So you know more than these 3 women?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 08:11 PM
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31. I'm not a sellout to Wall St pimps
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:52 PM
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32. and they are?
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Roland99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 05:27 AM
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33. If they think this is a good bill, then yes.
This bill won't do jack squat
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No Elephants Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 06:16 PM
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29. FDR's was better, but this is about 65% of the way there.
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 06:18 PM by No Elephants
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AlinPA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:58 AM
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13. 57 democrats and three republicans-how can this be if Feingold is voting no on cloture?
There are only 57 Democrats.
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DCBob Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:08 PM
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14. Lieberman and Sanders will also vote for the bill..
The Dem caucus is 59.
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karynnj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:20 PM
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21. We have 58 - until next week when we are back to 59
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 01:22 PM by karynnj
So, it's 57 (all but Feingold) and 3
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lib2DaBone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:49 PM
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15. Of course Bill Nelson will vote for it...
He knows it is a toothless, worthless POS Bill that will do nothing to stop his Wall Street Masters.
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DimplesinMI Donating Member (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:00 PM
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16. Agree.....
Ben Nelson is a piece a S**T!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 06:15 PM
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28. Nice to see
that they've watered down the bill enough to get this right-wing fucker's vote :sarcasm:

Roast away, everybody!
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Guy Whitey Corngood Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jul-14-10 09:38 AM
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35. So, is it shitty enough for him to vote for now? Great! nt
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