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Poboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:23 PM
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Chinese rating agency strips Western nations of AAA status
Source: Telegraph UK

Chinese rating agency strips Western nations of AAA status
China's leading credit rating agency has stripped America, Britain, Germany and France of their AAA ratings, accusing Anglo-Saxon competitors of ideological bias in favour of the West.

By Ambrose Evans-Pritchard, International Business Editor
Published: 9:17PM BST 12 Jul 2010

Dagong Global Credit Rating Co used its first foray into sovereign debt to paint a revolutionary picture of creditworthiness around the world, giving much greater weight to "wealth creating capacity" and foreign reserves than Fitch, Standard & Poor's, or Moody's.
The US falls to AA, while Britain and France slither down to AA-. Belgium, Spain, Italy are ranked at A- along with Malaysia.

Meanwhile, China rises to AA+ with Germany, the Netherlands and Canada, reflecting its €2.4 trillion (£2 trillion) reserves and a blistering growth rate of 8pc to 10pc a year.
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, chief of the International Monetary Fund, agreed on Monday that the rising East is a transforming global force. "Asia's time has come," he said.
The IMF expects Asia to grow by 7.7pc in 2010, vastly outpacing the eurozone at 1pc and the US at 3.3pc. Emerging nations hold 75pc of the world's $8.4 trillion (£5.6 trillion) of reserves.
Dagong rates Norway, Denmark, Switzerland, and Singapore at AAA, along with the commodity twins Australia and New Zealand.

Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/china-business/7886077/Chinese-rating-agency-strips-Western-nations-of-AAA-status.html
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:27 PM
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1. Dagong Global Credit Rating Co
Who?
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:28 PM
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2. its expected when CEOs chose to outsource to China & other Asian nations
how soon til China hires debt collectors in America & Xe as the support?
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:29 PM
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3. fuck China
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totodeinhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:10 PM
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4. Oh yea, that's certainly going to help, especially since they are holding so much of our debt. n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:06 AM
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5. they can still fuck themselves
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yava Donating Member (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 07:23 PM
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10. OK dear Skittles, so who also would you like toi see go
fuck themselves?
Let me guess: Russia, Venezuela, Mexico, Brazil, Cuba, Iran, India, Europe EU, Japan?
Any others to add to your list?

And let me guess who are your good guys:
UK (the Brits), Poland, Georgia, Israel, anyone else?
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proteus_lives Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:12 AM
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9. That's their weight to bear.
They live in fear of the U.S. defaulting. We default and their economy goes boom.
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bossy22 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:12 AM
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6. anyone surprised?
that a quasi-government controlled rating agency from china made this anouncement.

i hate to say it but their opinion is almost meaningless when it comes to the world markets. I think its also telling that when i showed my friend who works in finance this article he also said "Who?"
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dkf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 12:30 AM
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7. Maybe that means China will demand higher rates or will invest elsewhere.
In that case it is a good idea to lower the amount we need to borrow.
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Socal31 Donating Member (707 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 01:13 AM
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8. The worst thing China can do to themselves is take steps to devalue the USD.
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