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ChromeFoundry Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:00 PM
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Offshoring creates good jobs in poor countries: Study
Source: Reuters

13 Jul 2010, 0400 hrs IST,REUTERS

Offshoring and outsourcing in services from call centres to accountancy and medicine have created good jobs in terms of pay and working hours in Latest buzz in developing countries, according to a study published on Monday.

But the International Labour Organization (ILO) study found that improved work practices in the outsourcing industry could reduce excessive rates of staff turnover.

The study gives the lie to claims that outsourcing of such work has created "cyber-coolies" or "electronic sweatshops", said Jon Messenger, an ILO researcher and main editor of the study.

"The jobs being created in offshore business services in developing countries are reasonably good quality jobs by local standards in terms of wages and working conditions," he said.

The book looks at outsourcing in the two biggest markets, India and the Philippines, and two growing Latin American centres, Brazil and Argentina.



Read more: http://economictimes.indiatimes.com/infotech/ites/Offshoring-creates-good-jobs-in-poor-countries-Study/articleshow/6160968.cms
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DJ13 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:05 PM
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1. .... and?
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jody Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:06 PM
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2. That's not new, a job in location A is better than "no job" even though that means "no job" in
location B for those who lost once held "good jobs" that were outsourced to another location.

That's true whether the locations are A like in India or Alabama and locations B is like in Michigan or California.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:11 PM
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3. in the meantime my boss got laid off today
Edited on Mon Jul-12-10 10:12 PM by Skittles
and I've had to see excellent coworkers walked out so their jobs can be pimped off to complete nitwits offshore
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:18 PM
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4. I hear you....
Seeing and hearing it everywhere.
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:29 PM
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7. OMG the stories I could tell you about offshore idiocy
with your stories.....heck, there must be a website we can post them
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:31 PM
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8. Hell....between the both of us, we could write a book! n/t
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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:36 PM
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9. got another system being backshored
because - Panama this time - FUBARed it. Why they thought Panama would be any better than Brazil is a huge puzzler.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:42 PM
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10. As somebody who lost their good-paying job to outsourced hacks
I have seen this too.

I'm ready to completely change careers and move into something that can't be outsourced, working at the local grocery store (well, not so local, but it's a regular on the Forbes Top 100 companies to work for).

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sakabatou Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:21 PM
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5. And how the hell does that help us at home?
Tell me that, Reuters.
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KakistocracyHater Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:25 PM
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6. chasing the world's cheapest workers, to counter the multi-national corps
we need a multi-national union for workers. & CEOs are a direct challenge to Presidential authority, see BP for details.
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OHdem10 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 10:42 PM
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11. If your country is so, you never had a job then 39 cents an Hr
can certainly be considered improvement over what things were.

In many countries including China, workers cannot afford to
buy the things they make.

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DatManFromNawlins Donating Member (640 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jul-12-10 11:07 PM
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12. I built a software system that makes $500K a year
I can't afford to buy it either.
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:07 AM
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16. Nader wrote many books on this. The truth is, when companies come in, change the whole
Edited on Tue Jul-13-10 11:12 AM by superconnected
economic subsistence structure and then leave, the places they left are devastated. Usually this is because their local economic system was thrown out and exists no more so going back to even those 39 cent jobs isn't an option anymore.
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leveymg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:49 AM
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13. The global market for IT services is expanding rapidly. U.S. firms can compete in high-end
development and customer service sectors. The bigger problem is the lack of a coherent national education strategy to make graduate education affordable. The greatest need is older US workers who must enhance their credentials and skill sets to remain marketable.

The only difference between an out-of-work 54 year old programmer and a 30-something software engineer with a MS, Comp Sci. making $100,000 is about two years of post-graduate education. Certification and credentialing costs must be brought down if workers are expected to continue to compete for scarce jobs requiring higher skills.
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 10:58 AM
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14. And illegal immigration creates good jobs for poor people from other countries...
here, at the expense of American citizens. Illegal immigration is pretty much just the reverse of outsourcing. Bring the cheap labor here rather than move your business to the cheap labor. The only positive is that at least the work is being done in the US, but of course almost all jobs illegal immigrants do here have to be done here anyways, otherwise they would have been shipped off long ago.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 04:29 PM
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19. Poor countries are outsourcing their workers
Thats a call for immigration reform
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superconnected Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 11:04 AM
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15. propaganda
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blueworld Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 02:38 PM
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17. Ah, the stupidity. Of course it does if they were in poverty before
Making $20. per day could be a fortune in some countries. Here's my question: how much do the companies make? Yes, I know. Meanwhile, in pursuit of the almighty buck they want Americans to downgrade to grass huts around a common well with communal outhouses.

I'm glad for anyone in the world who is sincerely helped. I hope the upper management of the outsourcing mega-corps all get festering boils on their asses, however. Big, pus-filled muthas.
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LongTomH Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jul-13-10 04:07 PM
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18. Wanna bet this 'study' was financed by the companies doing the outsourcing?
:grr:
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