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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:34 PM
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Jewish dance group stoned in Hanover, Germany
Edited on Thu Jun-24-10 12:51 PM by demoleft
Source: bbc

German police are investigating the stoning of a Jewish dance group trying to perform on the street in the city of Hanover.

Youths reportedly shouted "Juden Raus" (Jews Out) as they attacked the dancers of the Chaverim ("Friends" in Hebrew) dance troupe last weekend.

Police said several Muslim immigrant youths were among the attackers and two youths were being questioned.
...
Charlotte Knobloch, president of the Central Council of Jews in Germany, told the Die Welt newspaper that anti-Semitic feelings were widespread in both far-right and Muslim communities in the country.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/10406344.stm



well to hear muslim boys use nazi slogans gives shivers.
bad episode, and bad omen.

the haaretz, on the episode:

Police suspect Muslim youth in attack on German Jewish dancers
Police were interrogating two immigrant teenagers, 15 and 19, in the incident. It was not yet clear whether the attack had been organized in advance.
Hannover police spokesman Thorsten Schiewe said the teenagers used a megaphone to shout anti-Semitic slurs before hurling stones at the troupe, in an attack which wounded one of the dancers.
The dance group canceled their performance after the incident.

http://www.haaretz.com/jewish-world/police-suspect-muslim-youth-in-attack-on-german-jewish-dancers-1.298072
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:37 PM
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1. *pfffffffffft*
That's the sound of a huge spliff being toked....
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geardaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:41 PM
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2. uncool n/t
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:48 PM
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demoleft Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:53 PM
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5. which "islam" are you talking of? n/t
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theorbiter Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:59 PM
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6. Well..
Sunni, Shiite, anyone remotely supporting concepts such a Sharia law. With the exception of Sufism, yes, mostly a far right spiritual, political expression.
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:58 PM
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21. True.
My best pal who is Sufi says the same. And I think he is drifting out of Islam because he despises the anti-semitism as well as the sexism. (He happens to be gay.)
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:11 PM
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11. "expression"?
I thought it was a religion; no more valid or invalid than Christianity.

It sounds like you might be as unpleasant as the Muslim youths that perpetrated this bigoted hate-crime.

No welcome from this DUer.
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theorbiter Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 02:14 PM
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15. So...
referring to something as a spiritual expression is akin to the open stoning of Jews in the street, for the crime of group dancing? Sorry but I call all religions spiritual expressions.
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Dogtown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 03:13 PM
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16. False entomology.
You can make up words if you like, but expect that your meaning will be unclear.

I see a lot of useless explanations in your future.

Also, I didn't object to the ignorance of your labeling, I objected to the mean-spirited characterization of Islam, a *religion* that I doubt you have any more understanding of than you do philology.

Those who attempt to dehumanize a group of people are just as damaging as the one's who throw stones at those dehumanized by bigots. It's merely a matter of degree, and I suppose those who hurl invective will switch to more lithic projectiles under safe enough circumstances.

My opinion stands.
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theorbiter Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 04:56 PM
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20. Of please...
what a horrendous load of pretentious crap. Please keep in mind that the ability to use a thesaurus in an attempt to legitimize an ignorant posture does little to make your position any more valid. When logic fails bust out the 10 dollar words and pretend to have intellectual fortitude. Tiring and unimpressive.

Being an ex Muslim and one who understands full well many of the inherent traits of the said spiritual expression, I need nothing more "lithic" than my experience to hurl toward Islam and it's hatred of Jews. BTW....where is an Islamic culture that a modern, progressive liberal would feel welcome?

Sorry, but I stand by my statement that Islam, is for the most part, a far right expression.
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timtom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 05:20 PM
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22. Sorry, but I have to do this...
"Entomology" is the study of insects.

The word you want is "etymology."
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REP Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 05:28 PM
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23. I think what was really meant was "analogy" unless dancing bugs are being discussed
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 12:51 PM
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4. Well, there's a surprise.
Dancers. Probably the least political people on the face of the earth.

Germany's come such a long way.
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amandabeech Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:05 PM
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9. From my experience, most Germans have come a long way,
particularly those from western Germany.

The culprits here are far-right ethnic Germans and some immigrants who apparently do not approve of Judaism and think it okay to express their view violently.
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a la izquierda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 03:32 PM
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18. Wow, nice broad brush. nt
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TerribleLarryDingle Donating Member (231 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:01 PM
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7. Hatred against Jews?
I'm shocked. :sarcasm:
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corpseratemedia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:04 PM
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8. so odd that some Muslim youth in Germany would think or say that
there when so many Germans fiercely hate Turkish and the other Muslim immigrants
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papadog Donating Member (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:06 PM
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10. Sounds like they focused on the Muslims right away.
Notice they didn't say any White people or natural born Germans were being questioned. Although there were only "several" not "many" not the majority were muslim, they picked up 2 muslim immigrants. Are they the only two who didn't run? Doubtful. Easier to pick them up and make an example of them since it likely no one will care and they will be able to abuse them and act as if they are trying to enforce the law.
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theorbiter Donating Member (47 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:16 PM
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13. Yes...
let us turn the perpetrators of a racist violent crime into sudden victims of racism themselves. How convenient. Born at night, but not last night.
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SunnySong Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 03:25 PM
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17. Maybe it was the muslim youth throwing stones. nt
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MellowDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 10:31 PM
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24. Germany doesn't have the same racial dynamics as we do...
Most of the Muslims there are "white" as well, not to mention the Jews as well. So it's all pretty much "white" people. But it sounds like religion or ethnicity might have played into this.
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oberliner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 06:22 PM
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26. According to the AP: "Six suspects have been identified — five Arabic immigrants and one German"
Six suspects have been identified — five Arabic immigrants and one German — and police are looking for the other three, police said. The six range from nine to 19 years old and have been questioned by police.

http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5jKQiOG88RA8DaNOcbhz8DnIkUBdwD9GHNGJ01
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Viva_La_Revolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:11 PM
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12. My first thought was "party on dudes!"...
then I realized... :(
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Beacool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 01:44 PM
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14. Gee, 70 years later and this crap still goes on???
x(
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cyr330 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jun-24-10 03:56 PM
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19. Horrible
Particulary that it had to happen in Germany of all places with their ugly history.
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jazzelle Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 06:16 PM
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25. Horrible
welcome my friends to the show that never ends.
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U4ikLefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jun-25-10 07:05 PM
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27. The jewish dance group should not get stoned..makes it hard to dance.
Spark em after the dancing is over.
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