Turkey's PM Erdogan vows to 'annihilate' PKK rebels

[oberliner]

Source: BBC

PM Recep Tayyip Erdogan said Saturday's "cowardly" assaults would not end Turkey's determination to fight the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK) "to the end".

The army said it had retaliated with a helicopter attack that killed at least 12 rebels.

There has been a sharp increase in the number of recent clashes with the PKK.

On Friday the Turkish military said it had killed about 120 Kurdish rebels since March, while 43 members of the Turkish security forces had also died.

Read more: http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/world/europe/10359237.stm

[David__77]

1. I would hope Turkey can be refounded as a multinational federative state.

Multiple nations, multiple languages, one state - peoples working together for common prosperity.

[Violet_Crumble]

2. And one that doesn't attack Israel the way it did! n/t

[iandhr]

3. they will use Israeli planes for this

http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/spat-or-not-turkey-still-using-israeli-tech-in-attacks-on-kurdish-pkk-rebels-1.297122

[David__77]

6. Huh? Did a war start?

I must have missed something. Is Israel aiding the Kurds now lol...

[oberliner]

7. When did Turkey attack Israel?

That is one bizarre comment!

[Violet_Crumble]

16. That's what the Hasbara types claim!

I was being facetious and having a dig at the Hasbara types who suddenly carry on like Turkey is some enemy forgetting that yr unfamiliar with sarcasm. My apologies!

[oberliner]

17. No idea what a "hasbara type" is but no one has made any such claim that I've seen here

Hasbara is, as far as I know, Israel's public diplomatic efforts. Israel has not made any kind of accusation that Turkey "attacked" them - that is preposterous.

In fact, I've seen the exact opposite claim made here - that Israel's actions with respect to the flotilla were an attack against Turkey.

Turkish public diplomatic efforts (not sure what the term is for those) have put the word out that Israel needs to apologize to Turkey for its actions.

[Violet_Crumble]

18. You do know because I've explained it to you before when you feigned ignorance

Yep, all that stuff I've been seeing about how Turkey attacked Israel's sovereignty and Democrat politicians demanding Turkey apologise to Israel are all just figments of my imagination in exactly the same way as I must be imagining that I explained to you before what Hasbara is. Will you be needing a refresher?

[oberliner]

19. "Democrat politicians" ?

I've never heard "Democrat" used as an adjective except by right-wingers like Hannity, Limbaugh, and the like.

Democratic politicians is what you mean.

[Violet_Crumble]

20. That's right. I said democrat politicians...

I don't really care what you claim to have heard or not heard before, btw. I dislike dishonesty, so I'll leave you to ponder that while I head off to work...

[oberliner]

21. Any comment on the OP?

Sorry that the thread got off track.

Any thoughts in general about the ongoing conflict between Turkey and the PKK that has resulted in the deaths of thousands of innocent civilians?

[Violet_Crumble]

22. Yep..that'd be the post where I replied to th OP

Yr apology for taking the thread ot is taken in the spirit it's given

[oberliner]

23. There is no such post

There is no post from you replying to the OP.

[Violet_Crumble]

24. I meant my first post in this thread

Most people could have worked that out for themselves

[oberliner]

25. I was just wondering if you had any thoughts on Turkey's plan

Do you support the actions they have taken/are taking against the PKK?

[Violet_Crumble]

26. I've made my comment about the OP.

I notice that you haven't...

[oberliner]

27. "And one that doesn't attack Israel the way it did!" has nothing to do with the OP

The OP is about Turkey's PM vowing the annihilate PKK rebels.

I do not see how your comment relates to the article or expresses any opinion with respect to the information contained therein.

[Violet_Crumble]

28. It did. But yr free to share yr views on the OP n/t

[oberliner]

29. How so?

It was a response to someone else suggesting that Turkey be refounded as a multinational federal state. Your comment seemed to be in response to that, rather than the OP, which is why I pointed out that you had not actually responded to the OP.

What Israel has to do with the OP, I still have no idea.

[iandhr]

4. i am sorry...

the PKK is a terrorist organization

[David__77]

5. I am not characterizing PKK.

I cannot explain PKK, as I have not investigated its activities.

[jazzelle]

8. Terrible

"Erdogan said Saturday's "cowardly" assaults would not end Turkey's determination to fight the Kurdish Workers' Party (PKK) "to the end"."


Erdogan wants to murder innocnt people and has been doing so sice he took power.

As a peace activist, these kind of aggression is repulsive.

[atreides1]

9. The PKK is "innocent"?

You'll have to explain that one.

[jazzelle]

10. Justice for Kurds in Turkey

A RECENT demonstration in Turkey led to the arrest of and an 8-year prison sentence for a 15-year old Kurdish girl named Berivan. Convicted of "terrorist" offenses, Berivan allegedly had thrown stones at police during a rally of the banned Kurdistan Workers' Party (PKK).

With over 2,600 minors serving time in Turkish prisons, the recent arrest of Berivan comes as no surprise. Kurdish children are being systematically imprisoned for merely singing their native songs, peacefully voicing concerns within their communities or simply being at the wrong place at the wrong time.

Although the Kurds represent the largest linguistic minority in Turkey, comprising about 20 percent of the population, they have been subject to methodical oppression since the 1920s. The Turkish government and military has continuously targeted the Kurdish minority with hateful sentiment and denied it national and human rights.

The PKK, a separatist guerilla movement, emerged as a voice for Kurdish citizens in the early 1980s. Since its foundation, the PKK aimed to overcome the oppression of the Kurdish minority in Turkey through the establishment of an independent nation-state.

In order to combat the suppression endured by the ethnic Kurds, the PKK felt obliged to take matters into their own hands. Its members adopted what some might deem "terrorist" acts after it was made clear that institutional structures of the Turkish political system would consistently work against them. This resulted in the Turkish government and media's classification of the organization as a terrorist group. The truth is Turkey's hands are far bloodier than those of the PKK.



http://socialistworker.org/2010/03/17/justice-for-kurds-in-turkey


the blood is on Erdogan's hands and the children suffer the most

[gerenimox]

12. quite funny

that the article doesn`t even mention about the Turkish children murdered by the Kurdish terrorists.

[jazzelle]

15. Interesting

i wonder why Erdogan couldnt wait to get those israeli "drones" ,specifically to eviserate an oppressed separatist movement that he has vowed to destroy??

[gerenimox]

11. maybe they would stop

killing "innocent" Kurds, when America stops killing innocent Muslims.

[gerenimox]

13. here is a Turkish child

killed by the innocent Kurds

[davidinalameda]

14. but he doesn't have problems with other terrorist groups

go figure

:shrug: