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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:53 PM Original message |
BP Oil Spill: White House Intervenes After Coast Guard Stops Two More Oil-Sucking Barges |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
1. I see the Coast Guard's position, trying to ensure safety for the workers, but the |
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deathrind (43 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:36 PM Response to Reply #1 |
18. Yup.... |
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MadMaddie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:34 PM Response to Reply #18 |
36. Bingo! The Coast Guard should be at a minimum allowed to |
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saigon68 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 05:57 AM Response to Reply #36 |
68. CRIMINAL |
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pleah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 03:12 PM Response to Reply #68 |
83. K&R |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
40. Yup, but, too late by the time ship is in Gulf -- should be checked out beforehand...!! |
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CreekDog (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:16 PM Response to Reply #18 |
43. the barges are already there, the workers already on them and the oil in the water with them |
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ShadowLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
45. Stopping them and leaving them waiting for orders out at sea won't help that |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:04 AM Response to Reply #45 |
69. Agree. Check them BEFORE they leave port. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:14 PM Response to Reply #18 |
49. Thank goodness the Coast Guard is not derelict in their duties! Thank you all for being competent |
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awoke_in_2003 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 01:50 PM Response to Reply #18 |
82. inspection is fine... |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
24. Mark my words!!! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:37 PM Response to Reply #24 |
39. Clean up workers don't have the gear they need or training . . . and by the time a ship |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:26 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. That is my point... |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:17 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. Obama is showing up and taking action and so is BP. And we need to keep pressing for knowledgeable |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #44 |
61. Well . . . wait . . . you're mixing in different issues . . . |
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amandabeech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 09:13 AM Response to Reply #61 |
71. Obama is far too trusting of business period. |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 11:23 AM Response to Reply #71 |
78. Thats the best view of the problem. It's gullibility, not three-dimensional chess that has been |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 05:59 PM Response to Reply #71 |
85. Completely agree wih your comments . . . . |
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Jawja (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:56 AM Response to Reply #44 |
70. The GOP press is shrilling "Obama is not doing enough!" |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:17 AM Response to Reply #70 |
91. Another thing many folks in the press... |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #70 |
101. Dems should get smart and throw that right back at repuke govs & congressmen |
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pezDispenser (443 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:05 AM Response to Reply #24 |
62. you again |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #24 |
86. Is Obama making sure even at this late point that clean up crews have appropriate gear? |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #86 |
93. I never said otherwise... |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 11:58 AM Response to Reply #93 |
95. The "big picture" is stopping off-shore drilling and restoring 26 year Moritorium -- |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 03:46 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. You preaching to the choir! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 09:05 PM Response to Reply #97 |
103. Ok . . . apologies -- caught your response late -- |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:58 AM Response to Reply #86 |
94. Read this! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 12:06 PM Response to Reply #94 |
96. If you're asking liberals/progressives to support wrong-doing as being correct ... |
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SkyDaddy7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #96 |
98. You know that is not what I am asking! |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 09:53 PM Response to Reply #98 |
104. What you mean is ... |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:14 PM Response to Reply #1 |
31. I disagree with you, gateley. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:18 PM Response to Reply #31 |
51. On second thought, the more you learn..... yikes! |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #31 |
53. Excellent point. Okay, I'm going to revise my view on this. Coast Guard |
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snot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:46 AM Response to Reply #53 |
63. How about having the Coast Guard deliver extinguishers & life preservers |
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JDPriestly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:57 AM Response to Reply #63 |
64. Or, better yet, have BP deliver them to each barge. |
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Starckers (82 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:24 AM Response to Reply #64 |
75. CG |
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gateley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 01:13 AM Response to Reply #63 |
65. Problem solved! I think that would be perfect and the easiest solution! nt |
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Vinnie From Indy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 09:55 AM Response to Reply #63 |
72. +1000 |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 06:11 PM Response to Reply #63 |
87. Right ... and how about checking this stuff out before ships arrive in Gulf--!! |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
48. Agreed. I feel safer. |
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BR_Parkway (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 03:32 PM Response to Reply #1 |
84. If the barge catches fire while sucking up all that oil - is a fire extinguisher |
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madokie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:45 PM Response to Reply #1 |
89. Me thinks in this case the coast guard should be giving out the needed safety equipment |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:57 PM Response to Original message |
2. just great, so when one of these things |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:13 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. According to AC360 last night, |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:18 PM Response to Reply #7 |
13. "That's when the fecal material hit the oscillating device." |
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dgibby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:42 PM Response to Reply #13 |
26. Feel free. |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 08:46 PM Response to Reply #13 |
102. really is a good line, think I'll steal it too if you don't mind |
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Nuclear Unicorn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
9. I seriously doubt any fire big enough to sink a barge... |
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WannaJumpMyScooter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #9 |
20. no, the hand-held devices stop |
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HysteryDiagnosis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Barges don't jump well and I barged in on this thread for no |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #2 |
14. Boool cheeeeeeeet nt |
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G_j (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 03:58 PM Response to Original message |
3. rom this point forward the Coast Guard can not interfere with cleanup operations, |
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FLPanhandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:21 PM Response to Reply #3 |
8. YES!!!! |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #3 |
19. The coast guard has been acting might queer if you ask me. |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:03 PM Response to Original message |
4. Determining if a boat is safe takes a few minutes... |
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Robbien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:08 PM Response to Reply #4 |
5. They can. Obama's order is that the Coast Guard can check it out |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:12 PM Response to Reply #5 |
6. Since when does the coast guard need anyone's permission -- Obama or otherwise -- |
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ProSense (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #6 |
11. They are trying to prove the government is too large and incompetent. |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:24 PM Response to Reply #11 |
52. deconstructionists attack! I prefer the original quote myself. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:34 PM Response to Reply #6 |
17. I wonder why he has the title of commander in chief. nt |
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lillypaddle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:05 PM Response to Reply #17 |
23. yeah, you would wonder that. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:57 PM Response to Reply #6 |
21. are you smoking crack? of course they need permission. |
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obxhead (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:36 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. No, the CG does NOT need permission to board a ship. |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. try reading the context next time |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:33 PM Response to Reply #21 |
54. No, the population of the last 30 years have been severely deprived and distracted from information |
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ixion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 05:23 AM Response to Reply #21 |
67. Any one of a half-a-dozen different agencies from the Coast Guard, to |
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anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 06:00 PM Response to Reply #67 |
100. i can see this concept is too complex for you |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
27. He's the Commander in Chief. |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
58. That is their current authorization. The CiC is entitled to change that. n/t |
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dbmk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:02 AM Response to Reply #4 |
73. I am still looking for where the OP says different.. |
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izquierdista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 04:40 PM Response to Original message |
10. Security! Security! |
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Grinchie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:14 PM Response to Original message |
12. Normally, the Coast Guard just issues a citation for lack of safety gear. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:33 PM Response to Reply #12 |
15. There was no problem with the safety gear |
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Ignis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:35 PM Response to Reply #12 |
37. +1. In this age of automated red-light cameras at every intersection... |
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mzteris (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 06:34 PM Response to Original message |
16. let someone die because the CG failed |
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DefenseLawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
28. By all means, cut corners on safety. What could go wrong? |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:05 PM Response to Original message |
29. Another black eye for government oversight of this disaster. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:47 AM Response to Reply #29 |
76. Fits in with the Right WIng theme that gov'mint can do no good. |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 07:40 PM Response to Reply #76 |
88. Actually, it fits in with the progressive theme that we should demand competent government. |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 12:56 AM Response to Reply #88 |
90. We still have a lot of Bush Cheeneey Leave-Behinds |
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WillYourVoteBCounted (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:08 PM Response to Original message |
30. Er if the oil catches fire, some fire extinguishers aren't going to stop it |
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CONN (249 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:21 PM Response to Original message |
33. hey that's BP's oil thy're sucking... |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:23 PM Response to Reply #33 |
34. +1 |
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Lurks Often (505 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:25 PM Response to Original message |
35. Total lack of common sense |
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madrchsod (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
38. the coast guard did the right thing for the safety of the crew |
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Blacksheep214 (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 08:47 PM Response to Original message |
41. Looking at the bigger picture... |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:08 PM Response to Original message |
42. "What we have here is a failure to communicate..." |
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pasto76 (835 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 09:34 PM Response to Original message |
46. Jindal should have a TF for ensuring PFDs and Fire extinguishers |
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Althaia (199 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
47. some clarification |
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civilisation (456 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:37 PM Response to Original message |
55. Safety, really? Pure power struggle more like,., |
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lovuian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
56. Someone needs to fire the Coast Guard |
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jonathan_seer (80 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #56 |
60. you got that right |
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Blacksheep214 (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:36 PM Response to Reply #60 |
79. Too bad they didn't harrass |
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lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 10:59 PM Response to Original message |
57. I can't find the last paragraph quoted anywhere else. |
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Jacobin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Jun-18-10 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
59. I've had dealings with the Coast Guard in the Gulf of Mexico |
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Hubert Flottz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 04:43 AM Response to Original message |
66. Admiral Fat Allen gets attitude adjustment... |
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rocktivity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 10:12 AM Response to Original message |
74. It's called being a commander in cheif. |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 11:23 AM Response to Original message |
77. Fire extinguishers and life vests? |
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Fastcars (121 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 01:37 PM Response to Reply #77 |
81. Aren't Barges Usually Unmanned? |
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sulphurdunn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 04:30 PM Response to Reply #81 |
99. Any flat bottom, blunt bowed, wide beamed |
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JohnnyRingo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jun-19-10 12:47 PM Response to Original message |
80. Extraordinary Circumstances |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jun-20-10 09:54 AM Response to Original message |
92. Foreign Rigs, Tax Evasion Dominate Gulf Drilling (re: Coast Guard role on OCS) |
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lonestarnot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jun-21-10 10:23 PM Response to Original message |
105. Now there is some fucking change I can believe in! |
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