New Thread at TOD--A Very Dynamic Situation and the Top Kill Setback

[profgoose]

Source: The Oil Drum

sorry everybody--wouldn't let me edit the other one to change the address.

latest "live" thread with insights from the engineers and geos: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6516

this morning's comment thread: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6515

Relevant links to top kill procedure (scroll to comments in each, they're very good.)

Deepwater Oil Spill - Permissions and Concerns about Top Kill
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6513

Deep Water Spill - Waiting for Top Kill (more updated tech)
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6509

The Gulf Deepwater Oil Spill - the Top Kill Attempt (the technical aspect of what just happened)
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6505

The Gulf Deepwater Oil Spill, barriers, flow rates, and top kill
http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6501

Read more: http://www.theoildrum.com/node/6516

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Feel free to move wherever this should go... I'm just trying to get the news out. :)

[BelgianMadCow]

1. No it's me that's sorry prof - apparently, your earlier post is a-ok for LBN :-)

We also have the report on "setbacks" in this other LBN thread - http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x4400997

Heading over to TOD to see if they coincide

:hi:

[profgoose]

2. added a new link...

...we had a new link node 6516...6515 filled up with 350 comments in a couple of hours. and it was too late to edit it.

let me know how you me to handle that. I don't want to spam...but this situation's just nutty dynamic.

K

[BelgianMadCow]

3. just edit new ones in, or post updates as replies to your OP when you can't edit anymore

should be fine - to be clear, I am not the right person to tell you how you should handle things, it's only my opinion

And I see the comments in the TOD thread do coincide with our other LBN thread, good (well, bad really).

BP news conference at 5.30 I see, good

[hootinholler]

4. Thanks for those links! n/t

[ShortnFiery]

5. LOL There's reports that BP stopped pumping mud in 16 hours ago but just informed the M$M.

Oh gee, what a surprise. :crazy:

[BelgianMadCow]

8. Confirmed in this twitter from a CNN employee

http://twitter.com/LisaDCNN/statuses/14862448752

[ShortnFiery]

6. Heads up: Seemingly more action at the live feed. eom

[BelgianMadCow]

10. unless I'm seeing things there are 5 plumes now instead of 4

or did the two smaller on the left join to form one big stream earlier?

What action were you referrng to by the way?

[Ruby the Liberal]

7. "No one has ever set a cement plug into a flowing well in the history of the oil business"

Oh dear. That was a comment in the link.

Full:

And everyone: you can stop taking about BP pumping cement into the hole to plug the well. I know it's difficult for most to envision what's going on down there. But this isn't a simplification of the situation: you have a pipe sticking straight up the air and it's flowing 10 gallons per minute out the top. You stick a tube down the pipe and start pumping cement. Question: how long for the cement to harden? Answer: never. The cement is going to mix with the water and flow out the end of the pipe. Honest...I didn't dumb down this example. That's exactly what would happen if the pumped cmt down the blow out if it were still flowing. No one has ever set a cement plug into a flowing well in the history of the oil business. But you can shove a packer down a producing csg string and stop or at least slow a flow considerably. But can't shove a packer down this hole: can't get it through the BOP. And if you could there's drill pipe in the way.

Sorry to be such a downer but I thought BP might have come up with a clever idea they weren't talking about. So far I still haven't heard of it.

I SO hope he is wrong.

[depakid]

9. Seems the admiral's comments may have been premature

Nice diagram here that gives everyone a simplified idea of what the operation looks like:


Section through the BOP, showing the anticipated mud flow path.