MSNBC: Stupak Voting 'Yes' On Health Care (& Confirmed)

[kpete]

Source: MSNBC

MSNBC: Stupak Voting 'Yes' On Health Care
moments ago

MSNBC is reporting that Rep. Bart Stupak (D-MI) is voting "yes" on health care reform, citing "sources."

That would be a huge development. Stupak, a pro-life Democrat who voted for the House health care bill but has consistently said he won't support the Senate bill with its current abortion provisions, claimed earlier today that he controls eight health care votes. So if he switches, that's a big, big switch.


Read more: http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/live/countdown-to-reform-wire/?ref=fpblg

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CONFIRMED

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSN2113185320100321
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052748704454004575135791164496302.html?mod=WSJ_hpp_MIDDLTopStories
http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2010_03/022974.php

Update 2: And this is why you can't believe every report.

CNN's Evan Glass tweets:

Stupak: "I'm still a no // There is no deal yet. Its a work in progress. Maybe we'll get there today."

BASH - Giffords a yes, Baird a yes

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Executive Order Details Possibly Leaked
By: David Dayen Sunday March 21, 2010 9:56 am

For the purposes of this legislation, if this satisfies Stupak and his bloc the drama ends, because Pelosi and the team will have the votes to pass.

http://news.firedoglake.com/2010/03/21/executive-order-details-possibly-leaked/

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BREAKING: House Democrats have picked up critical health reform “yes” votes from a group of anti-abortion lawmakers, including Michigan Rep. Bart Stupak, according to senior Democratic aides. Democrats believe a breakthrough with Stupak's group - based on the promise of an executive order to be issued by President Barack Obama reinforcing a ban on federal funding for abortion - will help give them the 216-vote majority needed to pass reform on Sunday. (1:05 p.m.)
http://www.politico.com/politico44/

[amyrose2712]

1. Just mentioned on CSPAN.

[Name removed]

2. Deleted message

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[JerseygirlCT]

3. Good. Let's get him on the record, and then toss him

out in the primary later this year.

His fifteen minutes are long up. Time to go, Stupak.

[icee]

6. Agreed. I will send money to his primary challenger.

[JerseygirlCT]

7. I'd like to see her win

Personally, my tent isn't big enough to hold people who think that women's rights don't matter, or that they have a right to interfere with any woman's personal medical decisions.

[icee]

9. Go Connie Saltonstall!!!

[Bozita]

11. Connie Saltonstall. She's pro-choice. Link to ActBlue page...

http://www.actblue.com/entity/fundraisers/24052

[icee]

12. Yeah, I just found her. I'll save your site and send her a check

tomorrow. Stupak just ended his career.

[Barbara2423]

23. Agree

[stuart68]

31. Toss out Stupak or Obama ?

Obama either lied to him about an exec order to eliminate funding for abortion or didn't. I think they could both go...

[icee]

4. If true, that is the end of Stupak. Guaranteed.

[mvd]

5. So now we have a mandate AND an executive order..

that entrenches something anti-choice? Pretty expensive stuff for a bill that was stripped of everything progressives want. If this bill is not improved, there will be no real reform. But the reason I want this to pass is that the debate will continue.

[JerseygirlCT]

8. I wish I felt like they'd learned a lesson from this experience

that the only way to negotiate with the GOP is to offer to allow them to join us - NOT by giving up all our strongest points before the negotiations even begin.

[Mithreal]

10. We never needed to negotiate with them. They're proven obstructionists.

But, hey, they served a purpose.

[icee]

13. They served a purpose?

[Mithreal]

18. For New Democrats, Republicans may be co-obstructionists

Comprehensive quality public option available to everyone, single payer and a whole heap of other "lefty" reforms were swept off the table by Obama and I have this feeling they couldn't pass insurance profits protection without making it look like it was a long drawn out fight, wearing down both the legislators and average Americans while providing cover for the lobbyists to work their magic and other erosive effects.

[icee]

19. Ahhhhhhh........ Yes. Good.

[JerseygirlCT]

35. Exactly. I don't know why any of them didn't see it.

There was simply NO CHANCE of cooperation on anything, for any reason, at all.

So you make some tough speeches, and you go ahead and do what you were put into office to do, and you let them suck on their lemons and make their own speeches.

As people keep saying: elections have consequences.

All our fiddling around may just mean we get schooled in that lesson again after the mid-terms. I hope not, but piddling around with the GOP didn't do a damned thing for the American people or for the Democratic party.

[orbitalman]

14. Do we need this numskull's vote?? nt

[DCBob]

15. maybe not..

I hope not.

[DCBob]

16. CNN said a deal is "very very close"...

but Stupak is still a no at this point.. what an arse this guy is.

[jmodden]

20. "what an arse this guy is."

Butt an arse is occ quite useful.

[DCBob]

21. I think its an affliction common to conservatives..

genetic I presume.

[Blacksheep214]

17. We will not be held hostage

by religious douchebags!

The lack of healthcare is a bigger killer than abortions!

[Faygo Kid]

22. Agreed, and welcome to DU.

Stupak's district especially needs health care reform. Typical douchebag: Life begins at conception and ends at birth.

How about the already born, Bart? Do they count?

[stuart68]

32. Sorry, but you just were...

Obama agreed to issue an exec order to eliminate public funding for abortion. So who is the bigger d-bag ?

[Faygo Kid]

24. Stupak still a 'no' vote on healthcare bill

Source: The Hill

Rep. Bart Stupak (D-Mich.) is still a no vote, according to his spokeswoman.

In an email to The Hill, Stupak spokeswoman Michelle Begnoche stated, "There is not yet a deal and Congressman Stupak is still a NO vote right now."

At least a couple of news outlets reported Sunday afternoon that Stupak is now a yes vote, having reached a deal with Democratic leaders.

There is intensifying speculation that Democratic leaders will not have the votes unless they strike a deal with Stupak and other anti-abortion rights lawmakers.

Read more: http://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/88121-stupak-still-a-no-vote-on-healthcare-bill

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That sh*thead is the number one Dem that has to go. All about the unborn, while those already born in his rural district mean nothing to him. What a rotten and despicable excuse for a human being.

[MineralMan]

25. Without seeing a date and time for that email, I have to

take this blog entry with a large crystal of halite.

[Faygo Kid]

27. March 21, 1:45 p.m. EDT.

Later than the last in LBN.

[MineralMan]

30. That's the time and date for the blog entry, not the email, I think.

[vduhr]

26. The word on MSNBC is

that there is a deal, in which Obama signs a presidential mandate that no Fed funding of abortion is in the bill (not exact wording).

[icee]

28. Intrade has it at 93% for passage.

http://www.intrade.com/

[Guilded Lilly]

29. The milking stool needs to be kicked out from under

this repugnant obstructionist's butt, bigtime.

Despicable, even for a politician. Just repulsive. The worst kind of political hostage taker. And that goes for his pals, too. He doesn't give one genuine damn about the needs of the living. Particularly women.

[RyanClark]

33. At least he finally came around

[Myrina]

34. yeah, when he got an Executive Order on a silver platter,

... ensconcing his anti choice bias in the annals of history.

Fucking Obama. I'd like to play chicken in an alley with him, I could use a couple million dollars in "concessions". :mad: