Virginia passes bill banning chip implants as ‘mark of the beast’

[meegbear]

Source: RawStory.com

Concerns over privacy have aligned with apocalyptic Biblical prophecy in a proposed Virginia law that limits the use of microchip implants on humans because of a lawmaker's concern that the chips will prove to be the Antichrist's "mark of the beast."

On Wednesday, Virginia's House of Delegates passed a bill that forbids companies from forcing their employees to be implanted with tracking devices, a move likely to be applauded by civil libertarians.

But Virginia state Delegate Mark Cole's reasons for proposing the law have as much to do with the Book of Revelation as they do with concerns over privacy in the digital age. Cole says he is concerned that the implants will turn out to be the "mark of the beast" worn by Satan's minions.

"My understanding -- I'm not a theologian -- but there's a prophecy in the Bible that says you'll have to receive a mark, or you can neither buy nor sell things in end times," Cole said, as quoted at the Washington Post. "Some people think these computer chips might be that mark."

Read more: http://rawstory.com/2010/02/virginia-passes-law-banning-chip-implants-mark-beast/

[KamaAina]

1. Do products in Virginia stores have bar codes?

I know of people who believe UPC codes are "the mark". :eyes:

[No Elephants]

16. Credit card numbers, too--no ability to buy or sell without the mark of the Beast, and all that.

It all fits.

:eyes:

[Thor_MN]

36. Cash has serial numbers!!1!!!1!!!!

To any end-timers out there, I will do you a valuable service by properly disposing of those pieces of green evil in your wallets and purses!!! Just mail them to me at P.O. Box 7, Minneapolis MN...

[tekisui]

2. They'd be the 4th state. No where in the article does it say

anyone or company was actually trying to force others to get an implant.

[No Elephants]

11. The Beast is very powerful, seductive and persuasive. Virginia has to protect

protect its weaker citizens, those who may not be able to resist the Beast's tempting ways.

:eyes: :eyes: :eyes:

This is the most important issue facing Virginia today. Sure, health care can save a life, but a life and a lifetime is diddly squat compared to a soul and all of eternity.

The Virginia legislature has to step in bc God is apparently either unwilling or unable to do that; and Virginia legislature should never hesitate to rush in where the Almighty has chosen not to act. Because, apparently, the Virginia legislature knows better than God.

Some might accuse the Virginia legislature of hubris. Others may accuse it of violating the separation of Church and State and causing one of its most famous citizens, Thomas Jefferson, to spin furiously in his grave.

I, however, recognize and applaud those who, finding a godless planet, are aspiring to fill that void by functioning as God on earth. I fervently hope they continue, at least until God steps up and does His own job.

:sarcasm:

[phantom power]

3. Yay! More bronze-age religeon in our 21st-century politics!

:woohoo:

[No Elephants]

13. IMO, this is an offshoot of "Christian" televangelism, not Bronze Age at all.

[anonymous171]

29. So you think that companies should be able to do this?

[Posteritatis]

67. Do you think a religious reason is adequate for forbidding it when there's so many others? (nt)

[drm604]

4. Good idea... ludicrous reason.

I can't argue with the proposed law. Companies should absolutely NOT be able to force employees to accept implantation of tracking chips.

Cole's reason for proposing it, "mark of the beast, yada yada yada" is batshit insane.

[KILL THE WISE ONE]

39. Right for the wrong reason

it's cheaper to implant chip in the badge I must wear. Our cooperate overlords know all about cost effectiveness.

[IndianaGreen]

5. Don't we need the Antichrist to take over in order for Jesus to return?

Preventing the "Mark of the Beast" merely delays the glorious return of Jesus to unleash the bloodbath promised in the Xtian scriptures. Who are we to delay such a momentous occasion?

:crazy:

[No Elephants]

15. Please. Do not try to dampen what passes for religious zeal with mere logic.

[Joe Bacon]

30. My family says the Antichrist is here, I.G.!

So do a bunch of religious nutcases at work. They tell me that Obama is the Antichrist.

Then, I remind them who the REAL Antichrist was:

RONALD=6
WILSON=6
REAGAN=6

The look on their faces--Priceless! :rofl:

[ixion]

6. the right move for the wrong reasons

I don't know whether to applaud or cry.

[No Elephants]

17. Did Virginia companies ever have the ability to force implants on their employees?

Was any Virginia company seeking that ability? If not, why would this be a sane move?

I don't think companies should be able to force anything on their employees that is not necessary. Things like punctuality and hand washing, fine.

Should we have a separate law for every single thing a company should not be able to force on its employees? Drinking, drug use, bedwetting, wearing orange lipstick, wearing shoes a size too small. So many, many, many things. Where to begin? How to prioritize?

Oh, I know. Let's start with some wackadoo's interpretation of the Biblical book of Revelations.

[jmowreader]

21. Let's start with the orange lipstick then immediately ban codifying Revelation interpretations

[No Elephants]

23. Absolutely! In fact, let's ban orange lipstick,. (Too far?)

[sybylla]

7. A broken clock is still right twice a day

This fundie just had one of those moments.

[Tabasco_Dave]

71. You beat me to it.

so i'll use another saying. "Never look a gift horse in the mouth".

[radhika]

8. When Will Those Endtimers finally Leave!

Instead of sullying the Earth with their war-mongering, civil liberty crushing and meddling into affairs of state - they don't they just get Beamed Up? Like they keep prophecying they will. Enough - You are a pain the the f*ck butt. Get off the planet, go sit at the Right Hand of Whatever God you tithe to and enjoy Eternity somewhere else.

As for me, I'll gladly stay behind and tend to Mother Earth. I still believe this could be a nice place to live.

[customerserviceguy]

37. I'm guessing that it will be at the Rapture

Until then, we're stuck with trying to get them to do the right things, even if they're for the wrong reasons.

At least until we can educate their children away from the nonsense.

[Trillo]

9. One mark, two mark, three mark four....

Four dollars to spend buying something, or to apply to the cost of a biz license or merchants space to sell something.

[Abq_Sarah]

10. I can't imagine

Any sort of implant that would track an employee could legally be a condition of employment (or insurance) in any state.

[Kurska]

12. I don't care why they did it, I'm glad they did. n/t

[arikara]

14. Unfortunately this sort of nuttiness

only serves to make people more accepting of what should be unacceptable.

[MidwestTransplant]

18. Palin voter

[yellowcanine]

19. This sounds like a solution to a nonexistent problem. Is there ONE example of a company requiring

this? And even if there is, I very much doubt that a new law is needed to handle it. The employee can simply refuse and take the company to court and no doubt win a large amount of money since this would clearly violate the U.S. Constitution.

[Trillo]

28. You must not be a news addict....

From way back in 2002

First humans receive biochip implant "Chipping" promoted as medical benefit

© By Peter Chowka
All rights reserved

(May 15, 2002) Purported medical benefits have recently been cited as among the more compelling reasons why people should receive an implanted microchip or biochip. On May 10, three members of a family in Florida ("medical pioneers," according to a fawning report on the CBS Evening News) became the first people to receive the implants. Each device, made of silicon and called a VeriChip™, is a small radio transmitter about the size of a piece of rice that is injected under a person's skin. It transmits a unique personal ID number whenever it is within a few feet of a special receiver unit. VeriChip's maker describes it as "a miniaturized, implantable, radio frequency identification device (RFID) that can be used in a variety of security, emergency and healthcare applications."

http://www.iahf.com/other/20020516.html

Company requires RFID injection
Published: 2006-02-10

Two employees have been injected with RFID chips this week as part of a new requirement to access their company's datacenter.

http://www.securityfocus.com/brief/134

[undergroundpanther]

65. thank you

for posting those..

Not enough people paying attention.

[yellowcanine]

70. Ok there is one company - who has not yet been challenged in court - they will be if they have very

many employees - and they will lose. I still say it is a solution to a problem which doesn't exist. One company does not make a trend.

[eppur_se_muova]

20. This? is from? The Onion? Please? nt

[Divine Discontent]

26. regardless of your take on the reasoning, this is GREAT news. do you know how many people are for

the tracking of their children with chips, employers wanting to be able to track their employees every move, gov't wanting to be able to track anyone who committed a crime long after the punishment - there are millions of people who would GLADLY support & take a chip.

That's the disturbing part, not those who believe in the long-ago prophecies declaring that a mark of the beast will be needed, as contained in Revelation 13. Sounds awfully prophetic to me.

[eppur_se_muova]

31. I wish the whole damned thing were from The Onion, actually.

The business of corpora-- excuse, me people as they call themselves now, wanting to plant chips in their employees has been lurking in the background for a few years now, and it's almost too PhilDickian to be believed. (Strictly speaking, the worst they can actually do is give you a choice between wearing the chip and losing your job, which is, by simple tautology, Wrongful Dismissal. At least until the SCOTUS is purged of its Bu**sh**-era members.)

Enforcable legislation needs to be based on a solid foundation of reasoned argument. The more care taken to justify the law, the better it will likely fare against challenges. A law based on Biblical interpretation is open to challenge as an "establishment of religion", and in danger of being overturned on first challenge, regardless of the intent or effect of the law.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Establishment_Clause_of_the_First_Amendment

"That's the disturbing part, not ..." We can only half agree. It's all disturbing.

[Jennicut]

22. So, how is everyone preparing for those "end times" anyway?

:rofl:

[avaistheone1]

24. Hooray for Virgina.

I don't care why they did it. I am just glad Virginia banned those stupid chips.

We are human beings not cattle.

[pasto76]

47. you should care why

while I agree forcing anyone to have a micrchip implanted for any reason is just stupid, there is no reason to reference anything religious, cause it has nothing to do with Jesus or Satan.

[undeterred]

25. Uh oh... my dog has a chip

and he can be a real beast sometimes.

[spirit of wine]

27. I feel it is too late

because Virginia State Delegate Mark Cole may very well be mephistopheles in disguise merely projecting and distracting away to the massive idiots that are his supporters.

[Canuckistanian]

32. They should go back to reading goat entrails

It's much more scientific.

[tomm2thumbs]

33. I think the Mark of the Beast may be party related - 'G.O.P.' or 'T.E.A.'

that and 'I Love Jesus' forehead tattoos.

[IDemo]

34. Virginia - soon to be re-nicknamed: "The 6,000 Year Old Dominion"

[Robb]

35. I'm going to go out on a limb and say

...I can think of security situations so deadly serious I wouldn't complain in the least if an RFID chip in someone's forearm was part of the equation. AMRIID comes to mind.

That said, I can think of very few examples in the private sector.

[leftrightwingnut]

74. It is very bad security to rely on chip implants.

First, the simplest ID chips can be read anywhere, and they can be cloned.

So, if I want to break into the datacenter, I scan employees at a restaurant or shopping mall, program the ID into my clone chip. Then I can waltz right in.

Second, if you use some sort of encryption scheme, someone will eventually break it. Then you have to remove all of your employees old chips and replace them with new ones. Ouch!

There is a reasonable argument for medical purposes, however, I think that it opens up some security issues, for example, letting *anyone* track your movements. Right now, only your telephone service provider and credit card company can track your movements.

[sakabatou]

38. *facepalm*

[shadowknows69]

40. But, but, I thought that didn't happen until after the Rapture?

What would a real Christian have to worry about? Someone not sure if they're going to make the first cut?

[LeftyMom]

58. Depends on the fundies.

While some of them believe that the rapture will precede the tribulation, others believe that the rapture will fall at the midpoint of the seven year tribulation or at the end. Getting them started arguing about it, or about whether or not non-believing children will be raptured, is great fun.

[shadowknows69]

63. I was always taught the real Christians would be gone before.

Hmmm, perhaps there's been a lack of faith in the last 25 years. They getting a little worried that their mythologies might be just that?

[Zorra]

41. I don´t care what their reason for banning chip implants is, as long as they are banned.

Companies forcing employees to be implanted with tracking devices? That's crazy. WTF is up with that?

[Mopar151]

44. Soldiers have to wear dog tags

And an RFID chip is safer to "wear" than a dog tag. Our dog has one - the reader has to be within a few inches of the skin, and it's implanted with a needle. You want someone to be safe from tracking, take away their cell phone.

[winyanstaz]

55. a chip is NOT "safe".....

Don't be surprised when your pet comes down with a tumor or cancer.
Human beings are not pets or belongings to be tagged by the government.

[Zorra]

68. Well, if you want someone to plant a chip in you so they can keep track of you,

I wouldn't try to stop you, your choice.

Someone tries to plant a chip in me or a member of my family, they just might end up planted in the woods.

[Art_from_Ark]

73. There is a world of difference between dog tags and implanted chips

Dog tags-- worn outside the body, can easily be removed, used mainly for identifying dead and wounded soldiers on the battlefield

Chips-- can be implanted in anyone, cannot be removed by the wearer

[lynne]

42. The lesson is we should pay more attention to Revelations? Don't care why it's banned -

- so long as it is. If they want to credit Revelations, that's okay by me.

[Divine Discontent]

53. we need to give that line from Revelation it's props, it is talked about, what is going on in these

new rules of being a citizen/worker. frightening, but I trust in God. I certainly won't be taking a chip to be tracked if it comes to that. I hope none here thinks it can't.

[provis99]

43. Damn! Virginia foiled my plan for world domination.

I better tell my best buddy, the False Prophet, and see if we can shift to Plan B.
-the AntiChrist, known here as provis99

[Mari333]

45. ...

........(speechless)

[vanamonde]

46. 30 years ago

When ATMs were just hitting the north Texas area a friend had some missionaries arrive at her front door. They flashed an ATM card and explained to her that this was how we were going to be marked by the beast. How they came to that conclusion I don't know.

[Guilded Lilly]

48. I echo most here...Good Ban, unbelievable reason. (n/t)

[Enrique]

49. the VA state legislature is going to stop the Antichrist?

:crazy:

[troubledamerican]

50. Bush Admin's Tommy Thompson was chairman for Verichip, got an implant...

Ask a Christian Taliban about Tommy Thompson. You'll see they have different standards for Neocon RFID.

[MindPilot]

51. This reminds me of my dad's elephant fence.

What're those stakes in the ground?

Elephant fence.

What?!

See any elephants?

No.

Then it's working.

[bitchkitty]

52. Um....

[winyanstaz]

54. K & R

Although I am not a Christian...I applaud any efforts to stop the chipping of human beings.

[DesertDiamond]

56. A rare case where I agree with Christian extremists

[New Dawn]

72. Same here.

Wow.

[cartach]

57. My GOD !

Maybe they know who the Anti-Christ is. Wouldn't that would be something? Any bets as to who they would say it is if we asked them?

[Courtesy Flush]

59. It's hilarious

They give two rationales for the law: One for adults, and one for children. The kids can't understand the human rights aspect of the issue, so we'll explain that it's to keep the Boogie Man away. :crazy:

[Coventina]

60. I'm completely in favor of the ban. Don't really care what the

motivation is.

[undergroundpanther]

66. Same here

I don't want any asshole with a scanner knowing my medical history ss number etc.

Who knows how far people will tolerate corporate invasion of our lives,people tolerate pissing on demand and personality tests and more.

[Mopar151]

69. While I'm not flippin' out over the potential tumors

If you're not in a situation where they may have to ID your crispy remains (soldier, miner, fireman, construction worker) then running your records without cause is a big invasion of privacy. I've had it done to me a couple times, raised Cain about idle gossip in a couple other situations. Somebody that was temping in Criminal Records "ran me" to see if I'd be a good date for her sister! (No worries, I don't date outside my species...)

[WeekendWarrior]

61. It amazes me

that anyone in this day and age would take the Book of Revelation seriously. I mean, even if you swallow the rest of the New Testament -- in fact, ESPECIALLY if you do -- then the Book of Revelation is obviously the rantings of a mad man who was reacting to the atrocities of the Roman Empire. It does not in any way reflect the New Testament books that come before it, which teach of Jesus's love for mankind, etc.

Someone explain to me how a guy like Mark Cole is even ASKED a question about this, let alone quoted. In an intelligent society, you.... oh, wait. I understand now.

[LeftHander]

62. Ident-I-Chip Model 666 is being scrapped....

damn....

[woo me with science]

64. Now, see, astrology would not have done this.

:rofl: