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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 04:59 PM Original message |
U.S. soldier 'waterboarded his own daughter, 4, because she couldn't recite alphabet' |
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Sanity Claws (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. Where was the mother? |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:04 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Not if she was there and allowed it to happen, she shouldn't |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
118. Deleted message |
bkohatlanta (63 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:07 PM Response to Reply #7 |
126. Charge her too |
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AlbertCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #7 |
141. Not if she was there |
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rucognizant (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 04:15 AM Response to Reply #7 |
156. The Mother is in Kansas............ |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #156 |
172. More info? If a court awarded custody to father, mother must have been a problem too |
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BonnieJW (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:37 AM Response to Reply #7 |
177. article says she lives in Kansas |
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swilton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:19 AM Response to Reply #177 |
183. I was thinking the same thing |
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varelse (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:29 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. In Kansas, apparently |
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vegiegals (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:38 PM Response to Reply #1 |
27. The mother is the one who called the police.................... |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:29 PM Response to Reply #27 |
91. Wrong. |
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vegiegals (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:22 AM Response to Reply #91 |
159. ah, yes, I see it is the girlfriend. Thanks for the correction. But, for |
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intheflow (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:03 AM Response to Reply #159 |
181. Agreed! |
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yava (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:00 PM Response to Reply #27 |
125. probably one of four possibilities |
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WhoIsNumberNone (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:33 PM Response to Reply #125 |
130. 5) |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #130 |
169. 6) |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:20 AM Response to Reply #125 |
184. I know you're not excusing his behavior... |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:11 PM Response to Reply #184 |
192. He should be shot. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:30 PM Response to Reply #125 |
200. Another possibility |
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Suich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:14 AM Response to Reply #27 |
152. Welcome to DU, vegiegals! |
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vegiegals (179 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 04:52 PM Response to Reply #152 |
212. thanks. hope I will. |
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Enthusiast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:26 PM Response to Reply #27 |
198. She better learn the ABCs! |
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Jennicut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. Please tell me this is untrue. I have a 4 year old. They are notoriously inconsistent |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
33. Not trying to answer you question, just want to say you are right |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:03 AM Response to Reply #33 |
138. A year in prison? The guy should be castrated!! |
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jberryhill (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:01 PM Response to Reply #138 |
196. I don't think prison or castration will help with memorizing the alphabet... |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #196 |
213. No it won't. But it will ensure he'll never be able to father children ever again!! |
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yava (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:54 PM Response to Reply #2 |
132. I was too tough with my second son about math questions when he was 12 |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:39 AM Response to Reply #132 |
143. I'm sure it was nothing compared to some of the sick shit I've read recently (including |
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karmkay (88 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:46 AM Response to Reply #143 |
180. hamster |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:37 PM Response to Reply #180 |
204. ??? I wasn't making a comparison between the OP and the hamster story |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:43 AM Response to Reply #132 |
149. And I'm sure it didn't do anything to further his interest in math, either. n/t |
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yava (384 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:03 AM Response to Reply #149 |
158. no of course it had the opposite effect |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:07 PM Response to Reply #158 |
215. I assume you've told him how sorry you are? |
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CoffeeCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:57 AM Response to Reply #132 |
190. Have you apologized? |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:07 PM Response to Reply #190 |
191. Apology can lead to forgiveness, and the combination is a very powerful healing force. |
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Laura902 (333 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
3. Sicko n/t |
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Demoiselle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:59 PM Response to Reply #3 |
54. Yes. Very very mentally ill. That poor little girl. |
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ellie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
4. Oh my god. |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
5. 'Can-do' mind set, bizarre cultural 'norms', tacit approval of torture, drugs? |
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BrklynLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:05 PM Response to Reply #5 |
8. My very thought. what have we created? |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:15 PM Response to Reply #8 |
16. This is a tradgedy. Even the dad, how far from normal have they pushed him? How many tours? |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #16 |
73. That's something I think about when I hear stories like this - |
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Tumbulu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:25 PM Response to Reply #73 |
103. You always write the perfect responses |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:07 PM Response to Reply #103 |
202. Thank you. I've had a long time to think abt this one. |
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marshall (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:18 PM Response to Reply #8 |
17. We would likely be horrified to know all the things that go on behind closed doors |
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Cirque du So-What (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:08 PM Response to Reply #5 |
12. My first thought was echoed in the body of your post |
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CountAllVotes (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:52 PM Response to Reply #12 |
109. pick up a history book |
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pundaint (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #109 |
207. Aw, you're just trying to scare us with that truth pertains nonsense. |
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DutchLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:24 PM Response to Reply #5 |
62. Nothing they didn't already do for the past 100 years... |
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havocmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #62 |
87. I call BS on that. Psy-ops much more effective anymore |
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pipoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:29 PM Response to Reply #5 |
64. We've not done this to the troops |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:04 PM Response to Original message |
6. please tell me this child will never see that man again/nt |
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thunder rising (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:19 PM Response to Reply #6 |
18. That's the easy solution. The real solution is therapy until he finds his way back from the mental |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:30 PM Response to Reply #18 |
24. More mental health care for military is extremely urgent. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:01 PM Response to Reply #6 |
75. Sadly, she probably loves him very much. I've seen kids who have been sexually and/or physically |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:20 AM Response to Reply #75 |
140. At age 4, you'd assume that whatever was happening was SUPPOSED to happen |
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bluestateguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
9. Cheney says it's not torture, so he should only get a light sentence |
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Betty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:07 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Cheney would give this guy a medal |
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bread_and_roses (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:08 PM Response to Original message |
11. the nuclear family strikes again (n/t) |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:23 AM Response to Reply #11 |
173. But whatever you do, don't let gays adopt!! |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:09 PM Response to Original message |
13. Kee-rist. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:12 PM Response to Reply #13 |
82. Worse, she'll fear relationships, loving someone, etc. I doubt this was the only time he's been |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:55 PM Response to Reply #82 |
124. My daughter, for some reason, was afraid of baths |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
14. The Daily Fail, people . . . |
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muriel_volestrangler (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:21 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. It does appear in a local paper too |
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The abyss (930 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:28 PM Response to Reply #20 |
22. Thanks for finding that one! |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:31 PM Response to Reply #14 |
66. Hello? The posters tracked down more sources for you |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #66 |
99. Hello? Perhaps if the OP had done that the first time, |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:18 PM Response to Reply #99 |
127. lol |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:27 AM Response to Reply #66 |
174. And thanks to them...actually Enlightenment is right to be sceptical about info from the Daily Mail |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:53 PM Response to Reply #14 |
72. Well, the Associated Press isn't known for making things up. |
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Alcibiades (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:46 AM Response to Reply #72 |
166. The AP does make things up |
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Doctor_J (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #14 |
206. Because the other news org's think waterboarding is fine? |
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90-percent (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:11 PM Response to Original message |
15. Sad |
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Berry Cool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:33 PM Response to Reply #15 |
25. Oh, I can connect it, all right. |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:14 PM Response to Reply #15 |
58. Many Americans can so comprehend just fine. We have Vets even from WWII yet. |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:52 PM Response to Reply #58 |
208. I know two WWII vets who came back and were "never themselves" again. |
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AtheistCrusader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:04 PM Response to Reply #15 |
100. This guy was never deployed. |
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lbrtbell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:30 AM Response to Reply #15 |
176. I'd have to know about his past before making judgment |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:19 PM Response to Original message |
19. The guy is fucked up, and we are making plenty more. |
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ck4829 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:21 PM Response to Original message |
21. And conservatives want the people responsible for torture to get off scot-free |
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Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:36 PM Response to Original message |
26. Turn him loose with a tattoo on his face saying what he did. (n/t) |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:40 PM Response to Original message |
28. This is a side effect of sending our young people off to kill Iraqi's and Afghani's. nt |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:25 PM Response to Reply #28 |
39. forgive them, for they know not, what they do. You are right. Do we want to enjoy pointing |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:44 PM Response to Reply #39 |
48. Teach troops "positive thinking" rather than treating them for PTSD? |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:00 PM Response to Reply #48 |
74. I think it was intended to mean the opposite. nt |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #74 |
81. Thank you. Reread it and I was wrong. Sorry. Thanks for catching me. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:16 PM Response to Reply #81 |
84. no prob. I read it that way first also. How are you uppity? |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:40 PM Response to Reply #84 |
120. The economy has struck here. |
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LiberalEsto (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:30 PM Response to Reply #28 |
42. All kinds of people abuse children |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:05 PM Response to Reply #42 |
80. I certainly do not disagree. One way to help reduce domestic violence is to stop sending our young |
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yellerpup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:45 PM Response to Original message |
29. Makes we wonder why his little girl is "terrified" of water |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:50 PM Response to Original message |
30. Well, a 4 year old *should* be able to recite the alphabet |
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kiranon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:06 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. Why? n/t |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:14 PM Response to Reply #30 |
36. so you are saying this sick individual was justified? |
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alcibiades_mystery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:28 PM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Oy vey |
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lutherj (788 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:01 PM Response to Reply #40 |
55. The pious know no sarcasm. |
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rhett o rick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:19 PM Response to Reply #55 |
86. Sarcasm is tricky on the Internets. They should have at least given the benefit of the doubt. nt |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:44 PM Response to Reply #55 |
107. asking questions for clarity is about piety? |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:40 PM Response to Reply #40 |
106. did you see the question mark at the end? you know, like the one ending the previous question? |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:16 PM Response to Reply #36 |
60. Do you not get the TONE here? Look inside the post. |
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niyad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:51 PM Response to Reply #60 |
108. since I actually know people who think that way, I was simply asking |
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Faygo Kid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:51 PM Response to Original message |
31. Dittohead, no doubt. And Beck/Palin fan, too. |
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pettypace (695 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 05:53 PM Response to Original message |
32. If a story sounds too absurd and provocative to be true... |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:19 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. Ever work in CPS? |
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Posteritatis (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #32 |
38. That certainly makes for a cleaner, simpler reality, I suppose. (nt) |
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kestrel91316 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:38 PM Response to Reply #32 |
45. The guy admitted doing it. I suppose you think it's ok to TORTURE |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #32 |
71. Well, the Associated Press isn't known for making things up. |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:20 PM Response to Reply #32 |
88. Unfortunately, extreme child abuse is quite true -- although hopefully rare. |
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GliderGuider (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:07 PM Response to Reply #88 |
214. Rare? Sometimes I wonder. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:55 PM Response to Reply #32 |
209. So for the record do you think THIS story is true? n/t |
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GinaMaria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:12 PM Response to Original message |
35. these lyrics popped into my brain |
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provis99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:29 PM Response to Original message |
41. so he isn't even an overseas veteran; PTSD can't be used as an excuse. |
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harun (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:32 PM Response to Original message |
43. I find this very hard to believe. Will wait for verification. |
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Maine-ah (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:41 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. see post #20 |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:45 PM Response to Reply #43 |
50. Here. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:27 PM Response to Reply #43 |
63. Well? Was it verified enough for you? |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #63 |
76. Another link: |
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cindyperry2009 (49 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:38 PM Response to Original message |
44. Please telle me |
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spicegal (617 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:39 PM Response to Original message |
46. Oh my God. How could someone do that to a child? |
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Taverner (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:44 PM Response to Original message |
49. Jesus FUCK - - I'm fucking speechless... |
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truthisfreedom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:47 PM Response to Original message |
51. Hey bush and cheney... this is all in your lap. |
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nightrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
52. who could imagine? Dick Cheney? would he be proud? did the daughter |
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GreenTea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 06:51 PM Response to Original message |
53. These are the kind of psychopaths the military encourages & has doing it's interrogations |
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veganlush (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
56. if the cons are to be believed, .... |
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Hekate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:12 PM Response to Original message |
57. Plain old fashioned child abuse,& shd be prosecuted as such. Some abusers have always used torture |
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jwirr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
68. That is the question I have. Why did he get custody? |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:22 PM Response to Reply #57 |
89. You can get custody away from the mother if she's a drug user. |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:31 AM Response to Reply #89 |
146. Or if you divorce her while she is so ill from cancer that she can't provide care, then move |
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pnwmom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:41 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. True enough. nt |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:15 PM Response to Original message |
59. Child abuse - but this time with a lack of creativity some abusers employ |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:21 PM Response to Original message |
61. THIS is the result of abusive behavior -- insanity!! |
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heliarc (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:30 PM Response to Original message |
65. Calm down people... |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:33 PM Response to Original message |
67. I'm sure he did it in 'good faith' |
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Ken Burch (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:02 PM Response to Reply #67 |
77. He probably thought it was "what Jesus would do". |
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anachro1 (388 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:40 PM Response to Original message |
69. Sanity break |
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John Kerry VonErich (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
70. delete |
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Fire1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
78. uh-oh! PTSD!! n/t |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 04:03 PM Response to Reply #78 |
211. Not necisarily, it could just be regular old child abuse. |
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benld74 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:03 PM Response to Original message |
79. But his guvinmint said it was not torture to do this |
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DesertFlower (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
83. this guy should spend the rest of his life in prison. nt |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:43 PM Response to Reply #83 |
94. Same guy had his Kevlar helmut on threatening to break windows. |
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burning rain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:17 PM Response to Original message |
85. I always tell right-wingers this when they defend torture. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
90. Interesting that severalsimply decide it's either not true or probably not true, without |
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Gman2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:37 PM Response to Original message |
92. And another friggin thing about a PTSD soldier, Thats not classic waterboarding. |
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caseymoz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:40 PM Response to Original message |
93. Left for war, came back with a monster in his head. |
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MrMickeysMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:57 PM Response to Original message |
95. Dear judge who ruled "daddy" should have custody - |
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AngryOldDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:58 PM Response to Original message |
96. Where's Lynn and Dick Cheney to defend this? |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 08:59 PM Response to Original message |
97. How is pushing his daughter's face into a bowl of water like waterboarding? This isn't clear to me. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:20 PM Response to Reply #97 |
102. Here is an article with more detail about what he and his girlfriend did. |
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Brickbat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:05 AM Response to Reply #102 |
182. Thanks for that. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:06 PM Response to Reply #97 |
113. You need to look into what waterboarding is then..obviously... |
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Soylent Brice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:02 PM Response to Original message |
98. fucking damn it all to hell. look what we have become. |
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Chulanowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:19 PM Response to Original message |
101. Ha ha ha just a frat prank! No harm done, ha ha ha. Oh, what a card! |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:27 PM Response to Original message |
104. This guy is sick, no question. |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:33 PM Response to Original message |
105. "admitted.... |
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Politicub (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:53 PM Response to Original message |
110. We will all pay the wages war for decades to come. |
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winyanstaz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 09:56 PM Response to Original message |
111. Oh that poor baby! |
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RoccoR5955 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:04 PM Response to Original message |
112. He was probably teaching her this alphabet. |
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MUAD_DIB (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:08 PM Response to Original message |
114. WTF!!?? |
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JVS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:11 PM Response to Original message |
115. What a scumbag! |
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Initech (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:16 PM Response to Original message |
116. What the fuck? |
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Radical Activist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:21 PM Response to Original message |
117. This is what war does to people. |
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D23MIURG23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:38 PM Response to Original message |
119. Not sure if this is PTSD or blatant sadism, but its abuse in either case. |
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PSzymeczek (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:48 PM Response to Original message |
121. Let's call it what it is. |
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Shining Jack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:39 PM Response to Reply #121 |
131. I totally agree. n/t |
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Suji to Seoul (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:50 PM Response to Original message |
122. But. . .but. . .but this isn't torture. Fixed Noise told me so |
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TheWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
123. Incarcerate him for the rest of his life. |
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patrice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:29 PM Response to Original message |
128. Yep, by god, Everyone who gets pregnant SHOULD be parents. |
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Hello_Kitty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:39 AM Response to Reply #128 |
154. Gawd never gets it wrong. eom |
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riskpeace (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:31 PM Response to Original message |
129. It's not for me to say, but |
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Zoeisright (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
133. I assume they will lose custody of this child? |
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Joe Bacon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:55 PM Response to Original message |
134. SICK! |
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guitar man (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
135. So? |
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on point (613 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 11:59 PM Response to Original message |
136. A natural consequence of lowering the bar |
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Harry Monroe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:02 AM Response to Original message |
137. Sick, sick motherfucker!!! |
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wial (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:10 AM Response to Original message |
139. now if only we can get Roger Ailes |
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Flagrante (104 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:28 AM Response to Original message |
142. But Bush said torture is OK. |
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boppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:43 AM Response to Original message |
144. Child abuse = Frat pranks.... (hurl) |
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Octafish (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:15 AM Response to Original message |
145. So why aren't Bush, Cheney, Gonzales, Yoo, Bybee and the rest in jail? |
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wellst0nev0ter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 03:20 AM Response to Reply #145 |
153. They're Richer And MUCH More Important Than This Guy |
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alp227 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:32 AM Response to Original message |
147. Waterboarding really does reflect badly on America. |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:46 AM Response to Original message |
150. somewhere in Cali John Yoo is stroking himself while reading this story... |
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BluDemocratGirl (262 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:13 AM Response to Original message |
151. Lock his ass up! |
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AllyCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 04:12 AM Response to Original message |
155. Dear God what is happening to people? |
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dotymed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 06:02 AM Response to Original message |
157. Get that child |
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carla (294 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:52 AM Response to Reply #157 |
160. America, |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 08:40 AM Response to Original message |
161. Anyone who grew up in the military knows this not too far outside the norm |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:28 PM Response to Reply #161 |
193. I disagree, and I'm currently in the military and grew up in an Army family |
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burrfoot (801 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:27 PM Response to Reply #193 |
199. Glad to get the opinion of someone actually |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 07:38 AM Response to Reply #193 |
218. Personal experiences vary. |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 03:02 PM Response to Reply #218 |
219. Perhaps they do, but you'd think in 37 years of living in and around the military |
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Deep13 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 08:50 AM Response to Original message |
162. We've created a generation of monsters. nt |
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bdamomma (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 08:52 AM Response to Original message |
163. what a sick bastard!!! |
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Capt. America (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:04 AM Response to Original message |
164. Do onto him...the same. |
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Hepburn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:40 AM Response to Original message |
165. The asshole father admits to having done this before: |
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Tim01 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 09:53 AM Response to Original message |
167. nutcase. nt |
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mimitabby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:06 AM Response to Original message |
168. why do we have to go to Great Britain to read this? |
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LeftishBrit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:18 AM Response to Reply #168 |
170. You don't in fact - see Muriel Volestrangler's post 20 for other more local sources |
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earcandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
171. I've got a stomachache after reading this. Thanks for all of your comments. Devastating for the |
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Zambero (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:27 AM Response to Original message |
175. Solid conservative family values! |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:38 AM Response to Original message |
178. Disgusting. |
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NoodleyAppendage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 10:40 AM Response to Original message |
179. "Spare the Waterboarding...Spoil the Child" n/t |
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Blue Owl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:31 AM Response to Original message |
185. She's too young for fraternity pranks. |
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ooglymoogly (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:44 AM Response to Original message |
186. The slippery slope gets more slippery. kr nt |
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Ozymanithrax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
187. Christian Republicans/Conservatives say it isn't torture because we do it to our own... |
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Spoonman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:46 AM Response to Original message |
188. And yet to my suprise....... |
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fan of the arts (78 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 11:55 AM Response to Original message |
189. "Harmless prank", let's move on to health care and Palin |
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perdita9 (408 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:50 PM Response to Original message |
194. Support the Troops? |
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KansDem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 12:56 PM Response to Original message |
195. This is why Bush, Cheney and the rest of their ilk need to be prosecuted NOW!!! |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 07:35 PM Response to Reply #195 |
216. I don't see the political connection... |
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rackjite (1 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
197. Support our troops |
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PacerLJ35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:06 PM Response to Reply #197 |
201. This is an instance of one guy abusing his child...it's not indicative of anything |
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samplegirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:09 PM Response to Original message |
203. Guess he was a Hannity listner |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
205. there are some folks who deserve to be beaten to a pulp. |
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hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
210. I thought waterboarding was used to get people to divulge information |
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gimama (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Feb-08-10 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
217. VA short 800+ mental health professionals |
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Liberal_in_LA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Feb-09-10 09:25 PM Response to Original message |
220. awful!! |
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