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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:36 AM Original message |
Fire Departments Charge for Service, Asking Accident(and Fire) Victims to Pay Up |
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dixiegrrrrl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:39 AM Response to Original message |
1. Insurance companies have to pay? |
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Raven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:40 AM Response to Original message |
2. Not surprised. This is part of the "freestater" agenda. Dismantle government. |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
22. Republicans want to privatize everything including the fire service |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:16 PM Response to Reply #22 |
31. This is a fairly common practice in Arizona |
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Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:35 PM Response to Reply #31 |
34. it's disgraceful! |
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Delphinus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 06:22 PM Response to Reply #31 |
35. No! Seriously??!! |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:54 AM Response to Reply #31 |
39. They would extinguish the blaze in your neighbor's house |
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KamaAina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 12:14 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. But see, the neighbor's house wouldn't have caught on fire in the first place |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:19 PM Response to Reply #42 |
45. Not necessarily |
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AlienGirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 03:42 PM Response to Reply #31 |
60. If the flames spread to the house next door, you'll get sued for any damages |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 03:00 AM Response to Reply #22 |
57. Until they are the ones that have to pay up |
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SpiralHawk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:43 AM Response to Original message |
3. Republiconomics |
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DBoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:49 AM Response to Original message |
4. "why should *I* pay to put out a fire in someone *else's* house" |
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tomm2thumbs (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:09 PM Response to Reply #4 |
7. heard across America from red staters far and wide - until THEIR house catches fire |
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pattmarty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:23 PM Response to Reply #7 |
21. I believe you meant THEIR trailers. How many........ |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 03:41 PM Response to Reply #21 |
49. Mocking people living in trailers is uncool. n/t |
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RaRa (705 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
10. Tom Hartmann yesterday |
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Lasher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:29 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. Libertarians are anarchists with money. |
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MilesColtrane (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 12:31 PM Response to Reply #13 |
59. Libertarians are Republicans who like to get high. |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #10 |
40. Does Tom read DU? |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:20 PM Response to Reply #40 |
46. Drew Carey (Libertarian) says much the same. |
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opihimoimoi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 11:53 AM Response to Original message |
5. This was tried in many cities o9ver the past 200 years...its not good |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:07 PM Response to Original message |
6. Nero fiddled while Rome burned. (Because his thugs had started the fires!) |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 11:02 AM Response to Reply #6 |
41. Bull. |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 01:08 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. Yeah right. Then, Nero blamed the fires (in the poor sections of Rome) on the Christians |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:17 PM Response to Reply #43 |
44. Who are you rating as the two worse presidents than Bush? |
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FailureToCommunicate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 05:20 PM Response to Reply #44 |
50. In OUR lifetime: Reagan worst, Dubyah tied with Nixon for second place. I defer to your |
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jmowreader (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 05:37 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. I think Dubya was worse than Nixon by orders of magnitude |
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BostonScorpion (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 11:15 PM Response to Reply #43 |
55. not to get |
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Doremus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:11 PM Response to Original message |
8. Antique fire markers are lots of $$$. |
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enlightenment (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:09 PM Response to Reply #8 |
18. The Sanborn Fire Insurance maps. |
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Lorien (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 03:06 AM Response to Reply #8 |
58. And they soon discovered what a terrible idea that was |
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jdlh8894 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:15 PM Response to Original message |
9. FWIW Not all fire depts. are taxpayer funded |
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sinkingfeeling (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:22 PM Response to Reply #9 |
12. And volunteer fire departments are hiring billing companies and levying fees as well according to |
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shraby (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:49 PM Response to Reply #9 |
15. Even as volunteers, the fire trucks and equipment are |
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SharonAnn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:46 PM Response to Reply #15 |
54. Not in our area. All fire equipment is paid for by donations. None is from taxes. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #9 |
24. And for some areas volunteers make sense. |
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Jefferson23 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:20 PM Response to Original message |
11. This is a new low in America, completely disgusting. |
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musiclawyer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:32 PM Response to Original message |
14. In CA many small fire districts are broke |
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Gormy Cuss (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 03:48 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. Do taxpayers know this? That is, were all taxpayers notifed when the change was made? |
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Wizard777 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 12:54 PM Response to Original message |
16. Here in Maryland we had a Vol. Fire Dept. sit around and watch a house burn to the ground. |
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activa8tr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 06:51 PM Response to Reply #16 |
36. Good for him! That dues thing is criminal !! n/t |
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melm00se (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:06 PM Response to Original message |
17. i have no issue with |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:39 PM Response to Reply #17 |
25. IMO that should be called a fine or civil penalty not a 'bill' |
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Xithras (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:10 PM Response to Original message |
19. My dad's in a volunteer fire dept that does this. It never went away in rural areas. |
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RamboLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:36 PM Response to Reply #19 |
23. In the OP article the FD in story is using a Billing Service |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:12 PM Response to Original message |
20. Maybe it should just be included in property taxes like garbage pick-up is in some areas |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:42 PM Response to Reply #20 |
26. Maybe? |
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blueworld (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:54 PM Response to Reply #26 |
48. Well I agree with you, but I don't see that happening for quite a while |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 01:51 PM Response to Original message |
27. Does anyone have a list of states where this is Illigal?? |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
29. What a load of crap! |
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tanyev (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 04:10 PM Response to Original message |
30. Welcome to the Tea Party's Vision for America, |
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Blue_Tires (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:05 PM Response to Original message |
32. holy fuck -- even the Pentagon would blush at this bill padding: |
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Earth_First (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 05:26 PM Response to Original message |
33. Gotta pay for the volunteer 'clubhouses' somehow... n/t |
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Dappleganger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Feb-04-10 07:22 PM Response to Reply #33 |
37. Please don't fault the firefighters. |
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Realityhack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 07:50 PM Response to Reply #37 |
52. +1 n/t |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 10:09 AM Response to Original message |
38. Funny when libertarian ideals clash with reality. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 02:23 PM Response to Original message |
47. Doesn't this give firefighters incentive to set fires? |
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Bombero1956 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Feb-05-10 09:42 PM Response to Original message |
53. you get what you pay for folks |
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jobwithout (118 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Feb-07-10 01:34 AM Response to Original message |
56. A foreseeable consequence |
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