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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:00 AM
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Gov. Suggests Building Prison In Mexico
Source: KCRA

Gov. Suggests Building Prison In Mexico
Schwarzenegger Speaks To Sacramento Press Club

POSTED: 5:29 pm PST January 25, 2010
UPDATED: 7:02 pm PST January 25, 2010

SACRAMENTO, Calif. -- Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger floated an unusual suggestion Monday on how to cut the state's bloated prison costs with a private venture -- build a private prison in Mexico.

"We pay them to build a prison down in Mexico and then we have those undocumented immigrants be down there in a prison and with their prison guards and all this," Schwarzenegger told a gathering of the Sacramento Press Club. "It will halve the costs to build the prisons and halve the costs to run the prisons."

The governor's remark came amid alarm from law enforcement and crime victim groups about a new program meant to thin the state's prison population through early release.

"We're going to release early tens of thousands of criminals into your neighborhoods, many of them without parole supervision," Assemblyman Ted Lieu, D-Torrance, said.

Read more: http://www.kcra.com/politics/22338974/detail.html
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:04 AM
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1. He's just embarrassing. Someone make him go away.
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raccoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:56 AM
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9. I'm from SC, and I feel your pain. nt
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roguevalley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:07 PM
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20. I'm from Alaska and I'm glad someone else beside me is in pain. Unfortunately,
I was born in California. :P
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Cal Carpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:59 AM
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11. Love the implication that all undocumented immigrants are Mexican
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 08:59 AM by Cal Carpenter
Geez...what an ass he is.
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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:04 AM
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2. Huh?
Let me get this straight - we try and sentence them and then a foreign country imprisons them????

How can that be legal in either country??!!!??

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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:18 AM
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3. There is some benevolence in this
If it will allow prisoners to be closer to their families.
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tomhayes Donating Member (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:20 AM
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4. Yeah, he's a realt bleedin' heart
:(
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:03 AM
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15. I said some.
Some small states outsource their Maximum security prisoners hundreds of miles, and several states, away. I happenned to read a story in a little VT. weekly paper about it - from the point of view of the bus driver, who took a load of families to Virginia for Christmas. (Neat guy - he had been a bus driver before becoming a minister, and his church leased a bus to go south and help rebuild a burned church. He bought a used Prevost bus, and went ino business to do similar things. Drove all night to Va., spent the day at the prision, and drove home - because most of the families could,nt afford a motel)
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DRoseDARs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:51 AM
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6. You are aware that prison conditions in Mexico are abysmal, right?
God help you if you're ever arrested, convicted and sentenced there, because their judicial system sure as Hell won't.
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Mopar151 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:52 AM
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14. That's why I did'nt advocate prisoner exchange n/t
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Flaneur Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 01:58 PM
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19. Depends on how much money you have.
If I had money, I would much rather be imprisoned in Mexico than the US.

Hookers, cell phones, TV, drugs, fine wines...not so bad if you've got the bucks.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 02:22 AM
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5. Schwarzenegger is so way in over his head.
I wonder if he ever had anyone explain the Bill of Rights to him. I'm not asking him to know or understand the whole Constitution, but he should at least have a clue about the Bill of Rights.
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zogofzorkon Donating Member (256 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:45 AM
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13. The BIll of Rights is much like the Constitution
a quaint document of another time. The first, the forth, the fifth, the seventh, the eighth, and the ninth Amendments are already ignored.
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:19 PM
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21. You won't be staying long on DU unless you are joking.
Also, forth should be fourth.
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 03:52 AM
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7. They do release something like 450,00++ prisoners every year . . .
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 03:53 AM by defendandprotect
something for us to think about re this horrendous prisons system ---

Time to put a STOP to these outrageous levels of incarceration -- \

rather than frightening people about those being parolled!!

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Judi Lynn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:53 AM
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8. Schwarzenegger ponders building prisons in Mexico for illegal immigrants
Posted on Tuesday, January 26, 2010
Schwarzenegger ponders building prisons in Mexico for illegal immigrants

By Kevin Yamamura | The Sacramento Bee
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger on Monday offered yet another way California can save on incarcerating illegal immigrants: pay to build prisons in Mexico.

Schwarzenegger said in a Sacramento Press Club speech that rather than raise taxes, the state could find money by cutting pension costs, allowing offshore oil drilling and lowering prison expenditures.

His budget calls for an $880 million infusion from the federal government to pay for housing illegal immigrant prisoners who have committed crimes in California. The governor also wants to rely more on private prison companies.

But he also gave an off-the-cuff suggestion that California send undocumented inmates to Mexico and pay to build and run new prisons there.

"We can do so much better, in the prison system alone, if we can go and take inmates – for instance, the 20,000 inmates that are illegal immigrants that are here – and get them to Mexico," Schwarzenegger said.

More:
http://www.mcclatchydc.com/homepage/story/83027.html
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Demeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 08:59 AM
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10. Maybe It's Alzheimers, Early Onset
such a Reaganesque idea...
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 09:07 AM
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12. Idiot is as idiot does.
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JustABozoOnThisBus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:16 AM
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16. Why Mexico?
I'd think they can get the job done cheaper in India, China, N. Korea, or even Haiti. If the goal is to outsource punishment.

If we put the California governor's mansion in Bangladesh, we could probably save some money, too.

:hi:
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jasi2006 Donating Member (544 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:28 AM
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17. Prisons are BIG business and jobs... Look at the map where they are located.
Also, prisoners add to the census in the areas where they are located. Can even get more voting power for Congress. Check it out on-line.
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AlphaCentauri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-26-10 10:42 AM
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18. There is a nice place in Mexico for that project,
Edited on Tue Jan-26-10 10:45 AM by AlphaCentauri
Clipperton Island
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clipperton_Island

Since outsourcing is so popular, can Sacramento be outsourced to a Mexican state like Sinaloa? it would save a lot of money.
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