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kpete (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:43 PM Original message |
Dem leaders unite on health care strategy |
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Kurt_and_Hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:44 PM Response to Original message |
1. Good. I hope the rank & file goes for it. |
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Iowa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:52 PM Response to Reply #1 |
23. It depends on what changes they make... |
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Toots (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 09:03 AM Response to Reply #23 |
45. If they make a single change to the Senate Bill Health Care is dead |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 10:44 PM Response to Reply #45 |
51. If they go with the Senate bill, health care is dead |
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liberal N proud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:47 PM Response to Original message |
2. Maybe the Massachusetts election is just what Democrats needed. |
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grytpype (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. PTDB!!! |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. I wonder how this meshes with the spending freeze |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:21 PM Response to Reply #4 |
12. The only spending freeze that will actually help is a military spending freeze. |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:22 PM Response to Reply #12 |
13. We don't need to be the world's largest weapons manufacturers and salesmen |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:25 PM Response to Reply #13 |
15. Get rid of the filibuster, focus on fixes via reconciliation but for now Pass the Damn Bill |
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wordpix (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 11:22 AM Response to Reply #12 |
48. +1 our major export: military equipment, weapons & bombers. What a nation |
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BunkerHill24 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
5. Reflection is a good thing, n/t |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 10:55 PM Response to Original message |
6. DO IT NOW or we'll never see nutin' nt |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:28 AM Response to Reply #6 |
29. Do it and you'll never see real reform, AND you'll be out $$$ for crapsurance that never pays out. |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
7. I might be the only one here saying this |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. The bill has too many good things in it but is surrounded by lies and misinformation |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:28 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Once passed then we can immediately fix what's wrong with it-or else we get nothing |
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flamingdem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:14 AM Response to Reply #16 |
24. YES, pass the bill and it will improve nt |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:17 AM Response to Reply #16 |
25. The so-called Cadillac tax is not a lie |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:54 AM Response to Reply #25 |
33. The mandatte is not a lie, either. |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:53 AM Response to Reply #16 |
32. Too many good things? |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:34 AM Response to Reply #32 |
43. Not enough good things soon enough |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:52 AM Response to Reply #7 |
31. I don't think most Americans know what is in the bills as currently crafted. I think a lousy |
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customerserviceguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 08:36 AM Response to Reply #31 |
44. You're right, no one has |
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Pirate Smile (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:01 PM Response to Original message |
8. Thank God. Pass.The.Damn.Bill! |
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Guilded Lilly (960 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:03 PM Response to Original message |
9. This was never an absolute. |
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New Dawn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
10. The "health" insurance industry demands that they force the fascist Individual Mandate on us. |
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Melissa G (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:15 PM Response to Original message |
11. Another fine whine about how tough it is not having 60 votes.... |
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placton (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:23 PM Response to Original message |
14. Fuck this evil choice |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:30 PM Response to Reply #14 |
18. We will kill 30 people, but with this bill we will kill only 5. "Screw it, kill all 30" |
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bjobotts (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
19. Get the point!. PTDB...then work on saving the other 5. |
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ShortnFiery (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:32 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. Once the insurance cartel gets their hands on billions upon billions of MANDATE BUCKS ... |
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PSPS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:49 PM Response to Reply #20 |
21. And they will freely funnel those billions into election coffers to guarantee their hegemony. |
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tomhayes (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:10 AM Response to Reply #20 |
37. You think that the poor will be forced into debtor's prison?? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:24 AM Response to Reply #18 |
27. No you kill all 30, but con 5 into thinking they'll be saved, yet get $$$ from all 30! |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-25-10 11:51 PM Response to Original message |
22. Ramming this bill through now is political suicide, |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:26 AM Response to Reply #22 |
28. Unless they are after the big insurance billions unleashed by SCOTUS. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:20 AM Response to Original message |
26. Why couldn't they do this w/ Medicare expansion & without Nelson & Liebermann? |
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tomhayes (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:09 AM Response to Reply #26 |
36. Really? |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:46 AM Response to Reply #36 |
40. Yes. The Clinton bill was also a sell-out to big insurance - you have to expand Medicare. |
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tomhayes (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 04:55 AM Response to Reply #40 |
41. They can't pass another bill (or incremental changes) |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 10:55 AM Response to Reply #41 |
47. The same way the Repubs passed the "Tax Increase Prevention and Reconciliation Act of 2005" |
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wisteria (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 12:44 AM Response to Original message |
30. If something passes, it will make the Massachusetts loss less significant |
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change_notfinetuning (750 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
34. Passing a bad bill will just prove the Dems didn't learn a thing from Mass. and |
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tomhayes (476 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:07 AM Response to Reply #34 |
35. So a "BAD" bill is better than NO ACTION FROM DEMS in elections?? |
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mvd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 02:15 AM Response to Reply #35 |
38. The mandates are a big sticking point with me, plus.. |
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grahamhgreen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 03:44 AM Response to Reply #35 |
39. Yes. Dems MUST pass a bill - this one is not going to guarantee you anything that they can't blow-up |
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No Elephants (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 05:54 AM Response to Reply #35 |
42. IMO, they're screwn either way. If they pass no bill, they may be |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 07:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
50. As I said in my other post on this thread: No accommodating & KISS |
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groundloop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 10:47 AM Response to Original message |
46. "Dem Leaders Unite..." - We're supposed to believe that? |
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emsimon33 (904 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Jan-26-10 06:58 PM Response to Original message |
49. Stop accommodating & KISS! |
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