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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:22 AM
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Dean: Lieberman Should Give Up Chairmanship If He Backs GOP Health Care Filibuster
Source: Huffington Post

With Additional Reporting By Julian Hattem

Former DNC Chair Howard Dean called on Sen. Joseph Lieberman (I-Conn) to resign as chair of Senate Homeland Security Committee if he can't bring himself to oppose a Republican filibuster of health care reform legislation.

Appearing on "The Joe Scarborough Show" on WABC, Dean stressed that he had no problem with Lieberman opposing the bill on its philosophical merits, or lack thereof. But he insisted that it was irresponsible and unprincipled to not allow the legislation to come to an up-or-down vote.

"I think that is a very complicated guy," said Dean. "He does because he says he's a principled guy but there's nothing principled about holding up a bill... If he was a principled guy he'd resign his chairmanship."

"If you are with a caucus you don't owe the leader any vote on any substance," Dean added. "I have no problem with him voting against the public option... You owe it to Harry Reid to allow him to run the Senate. And if you're not willing to do that the proper thing to do is to step aside."

Read more: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2009/11/25/dean-lieberman-should-rel_n_370685.html
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DonkeyHoTay Donating Member (81 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:26 AM
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1. Love Howard; loathe Joe
'Nuff said...
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no_hypocrisy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:30 AM
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2. Lieberman resign his chair?
Get real.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:33 AM
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3. It'll be a cold day in this place


Before that clown Liebermann willingly resigns his chairmanship.

Which is why I wish the caucus would grow a spine and take it from him.
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MurrayDelph Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:02 PM
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13. Same comment I made in another DU board
Susan Collins of Maine is the ranking member of the Homeland Security committee.

Let's make a deal with her: if she switches parties and votes for cloture, we'll give HER the chairmanship.
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:05 PM
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29. That will never happen
Edited on Thu Nov-26-09 04:06 PM by MaineDem
Snowe is more likely to vote for the HC bill than Collins. And even that is iffy.

But switch parties? Never.
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Name removed Donating Member (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-28-09 09:44 AM
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:04 PM
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27. They will have to drag him away kicking and screaming....
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 05:29 PM
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31. He'sthere for the WH to kill the PO. Now will exchange votes with Snowe for 60th and trigger
killing the PO because a trigger option is no Public Option at all which is what Rahm Obama wanted all along...remember.
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 05:32 PM
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32. He got rid of the torture photos ever beingreleased via FOIA when Obama couldn't get it done thru co
courts
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bjobotts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 05:36 PM
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33. Now he's back to get rid of the PO so we have to accept Snowe's trigger to get 60th vote
for clothure.

Without a public option the reform bill becomes merely an 'exchange' bill.

Millions of new customers in exchange for no pre-existing (though htye will pay higher premiums) etc.
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lsewpershad Donating Member (964 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 07:18 PM
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34. No he would not
resign. He should be kicked out.
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:34 AM
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4. +1
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MannyGoldstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:37 AM
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5. BS. We Have To Be Very, Very Nice To Lieberman
So he'll vote with us.

'kay?
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ensho Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:45 AM
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6. he'd have to be dragged away kicking and screaming


I'd help to do the dragging.
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johnhoover70 Donating Member (10 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:47 AM
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7. Just another...
...hypocrite in office. >:-(
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polichick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:56 AM
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8. Lieberman should be tarred, feathered and run out of town...
But too many Dems are as corrupt and self-serving as he is.
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TheEuclideanOne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:49 PM
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20. I kind of like the idea of tarring and feathering him and just placing his tarred and
feathered shell in a Senate seat as a permanent reminder. Just leave him there.... it would be kinda funny IMHO.
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Not Sure Donating Member (334 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 11:13 AM
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9. Why the hell is Lieberman still relevant?
How can one insignificant little whiny douche wield so much power? What does that say about who's in charge?
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MaineDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 11:37 AM
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10. Thank you, Howard.
Edited on Thu Nov-26-09 11:38 AM by MaineDem
But I don't think we should wait for Joe to give it up. Reid should remove him from that position.
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maglatinavi Donating Member (614 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 11:56 AM
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11. Joe L.
Get him off any chairmaship or important committee leadership NOW!!! ... we won the elections, he is independent, Reid nor any democrat owes him anything... let him be just another independent ... Geez...

:kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick: :kick:

Kick his ass to the bottom of the line... and to think he ran for vice potus ... sigh!
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AzNick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 11:59 AM
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12. Oh hell yeah nt
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Krashkopf Donating Member (965 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 12:20 PM
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14. And, if he doesn't give it up . . .
Harry Reid should fuckin' take it from him.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:33 PM
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37. Harry would have to grow a spine first.
:rofl:
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JEB Donating Member (134 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:04 PM
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15. Give 'em Hell Howard
Can you imagine where our country would be right now had the "Liberal" media not railroaded him out of his run for POTUS by replaying that bad recording of his whoop? I'm thankful that we have Howard Dean fighting for us. Happy Thanksgiving.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 07:02 AM
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45. It wasn't the liberal media that railroaded him.
It was the corporatist Democrats Kerry, Edwards, & Gebhardt with Clinton, Emmanuel and McAulliff running things behind the scenes. Dean wasn't "electable," remember? Their hand-chosen stooge, Kerry, then proceeded to lose against the worst. president. ever. Remember that the next time some Party Faithful tells you someone is "unelectable."
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aikanae Donating Member (165 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:12 PM
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16. Joe's seat should have disappeared a year ago after McCain campaign
Are Dem's naive or too stupid to learn that there are no real "deal's" or "compromises"? The only thing it does is make them easy prey.

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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:16 PM
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17. The Dems need to throw him out face first through the door.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:30 PM
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18. Resign, hell. He never should have been given it. And, it should be stripped now.
Gore's running mate ended up being one big fucking loser.
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colsohlibgal Donating Member (670 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:43 PM
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19. Poor Excuse For A Democrat
But then he's hardly alone in being a wolf in sheep's clothing. Droopy Dog should be drummed completely out of the party. Al Gore has done a lot of good, he seems like a brilliant man - but his brain must have been out to lunch when he picked this complete loser as his running mate.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 01:49 PM
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21. It’s Democratic leadership that’s allowing Lieberman to act this way.
Edited on Thu Nov-26-09 01:50 PM by tjwash
The guy's been a fucking asshat forever. Why Dems like Obama and Dodd didn't throw more support behind Ned Lamont, I don't know.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 02:17 PM
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22. Ah, yes
Ol' loathsome Joe. Traitor Joe. Joe Schmoe. Joe Mama. A wolf in sheep's clothing, Joe.

Joe Holeo.

How do Joe sleep at night?

Not well?

Joe conscience bothering you?

It should.

Joe Facade.

Will fall over and smash you flat.

Joe flat.

Smashed flat.
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Catshrink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 08:34 PM
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38. Senator Aetna doesn't have a conscience.
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libodem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 04:01 PM
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51. Joe right
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VPStoltz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 03:08 PM
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23. Lieberman, that prick... He should have been ousted long ago!
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Dinger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 03:10 PM
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24. "If he was a principled guy he'd resign his chairmanship." . . . God, I Love That!
:) :thumbsup: :headbang: :patriot:
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:04 PM
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28. and if the Queen had balls, she would be King.
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 01:25 AM
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42. agree. if he was a principled guy he wouldnt have to resign. nt
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 03:17 PM
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25. Lieberman should have lost that for supporting McCain
His office should be in a broom closet in the basement!
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UrbScotty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 03:50 PM
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26. Why can't they just take it from him?
I mean, John Dingell, a good progressive House Dem, got his chairmanship taken from him.
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Kingofalldems Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 04:11 PM
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30. Lieberman's DU pals must be outraged over this
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musicblind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 06:03 AM
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44. Lieberman has DU pals? n/t
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DebbieCDC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 07:22 PM
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35. Love that Dr. Dean
He's always spot on. The Dems need MORE like him.
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RainDog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 07:26 PM
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36. I am thankful for Howard Dean
because he speaks for me.
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droidamus2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:04 PM
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39. No way
If Lieberman backs the GOP they should take his chairmanship away and tell him to go caucus with the Republicans. No more mister nice guy if you don't get with the plan we have no use for you.
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Rosa Luxemburg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-26-09 10:24 PM
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40. Someone is keeping him there
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 01:06 AM
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41. Democrats should be pushing him out of that Chairman's seat --- !!!
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 05:17 AM
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43. Lieberman is not principled.
And any Democrats voting against the public option are not doing so out of principle, they are doing it because they were bribed with insurance industry money.

Sometimes the simplest explanation is the best one.
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The Wizard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 08:23 AM
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46. Holy Joe
is a cancer on the Senate and the Democratic Party in particular. What is wrong with Connecticut Democrats.
That Liebermann got 80% of the Republicans to cast a ballot for him says all anyone needs to know about the slimy reptile's loyalties. The word scalawag comes to mind.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:09 AM
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47. Be nice to hear that from Harry Reid. Yeah. I'll walk on Mars first.
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:30 AM
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48. I think this just goes without saying
This should already be understood by all parties.
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zbdent Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 09:48 AM
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49. (Holy) Joe (I-Lieberman)? Resign?
naw ... he's getting far too much money from Republicans to be their "liberal" voice on Faux and the wannabees ...
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-27-09 10:11 AM
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50. "Give it up"? It should be wrenched away from him!
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