Majority Of Republicans Think Obama Didn't Actually Win 2008 Election -- ACORN Stole It

[kpete]

Source: Talking Points Memo

http://publicpolicypolling.blogspot.com/2009/11/acorn.html
Majority Of Republicans Think Obama Didn't Actually Win 2008 Election -- ACORN Stole It!
Eric Kleefeld | November 19, 2009, 12:28PM

The new national poll from Public Policy Polling (D) has an astonishing number about paranoia among the GOP base: Republicans do not think President Obama actually won the 2008 election -- instead, ACORN stole it.

This number goes a long way towards explaining the anger of the Tea Party crowd. They not only think Obama's agenda is against America, but they don't think he was actually the choice of the American people at all! Interestingly, NY-23 Conservative candidate Doug Hoffman is now accusing ACORN of stealing his race, and Fox News personalities have often speculated about ACORN stealing the 2008 Minnesota Senate race for Al Franken.

The poll asked this question: "Do you think that Barack Obama legitimately won the Presidential election last year, or do you think that ACORN stole it for him?" The overall top-line is legitimately won 62%, ACORN stole it 26%.

Among Republicans, however, only 27% say Obama actually won the race, with 52% -- an outright majority -- saying that ACORN stole it, and 21% are undecided. Among McCain voters, the breakdown is 31%-49%-20%. By comparison, independents weigh in at 72%-18%-10%, and Democrats are 86%-9%-4%.

Read more: http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2009/11/poll-gop-base-thinks-obama-didnt-actually-win-2008-election----acorn-stole-it.php?ref=fpblg

[sinkingfeeling]

1. Talk about a leading question! Stupid poll.

[Gman2]

37. Not true. It is telling, of a demographic that will believe the sky is green, on cue.

[eomer]

61. It may be telling, in a way, but it is still a push poll. n/t

[Realityhack]

44. +1 n/t

[damntexdem]

53. Horrid question format -- idiotic question.

I don't trust anything from this group.

[Downtown Hound]

2. Is there any sin that Republicans themselves commit that they don't project onto others?

[L. Coyote]

29. Might as well read "Majority Of Republicans Admit Elections Can Be Stolen in USA"

Of course, that would not be news :rofl:

[CubicleGuy]

47. Since they know that Bush stole two elections...

... they have to assume that every election is now rigged.

[Lorien]

66. Yep. More classic projection. There's no possible way for ACORN to steal ONE

vote. They have never falsely registered anyone to vote; in fact, the charges of bogus voter registrations were filed by ACORN when they found out that a handful of people filled out joke voter registrations cards during their drives (not ACORN members but people off the street). However, Repugs KNOW that Diebold could steal millions of votes for them, and I'm sure that deep down they know that 2000 and 2004 were both stolen, thus the absurd projection.

[onehandle]

3. It's true.

Ha ha!

We stole it, knuckle-draggers.

And we'll do it again in 2012!

[CJCRANE]

4. As I said before...Repubs/teabaggers don't have any original ideas...

they just copy what left wing bloggers said about Bush!

[JHB]

12. Except when we said it we were accurate n/t

[LisaM]

5. So they are essentially admitting

that they don't believe most citizens have the right to vote. They believe in voting just for the elite.

[mrcheerful]

6. Projection the greatest thing republicons can come up with for everything

when they lose. Never mind that the republicons with their ties to Diebold more then likely stole 2 elections before the people started watching closely to see if their were going to be hanky panky in the last election. I still think the Diebold people would have flipped votes if the race had been close, but with McGramps and the former spread your legs for america moose lady they couldn't get away with flipping votes like they did in Florida and Ohio. BTW, has anyone heard anything more about the Ohio district that had 680 voters and over 4,000 votes for * were counted, outside of the machine was tired out from all the voting that went on it?

[byronius]

22. Damn your coherence. You're scaring everyone.

Yes, I'm still enraged about 2000, not to mention 2004. For the Party of Stealing Elections to whine about legitimate voter registration organizations just pokes a hot stick in those wounds, and stirs them all up again.

If there's a Hot Place, they're all going there.

[TheDebbieDee]

7. GET OVER IT!

That's all I heard from the repukes for the 8 years of *

$hit on them and the horses they rode in on!

[Tommy_Carcetti]

8. It's entirely consistent with those who believe Saddam Hussein was behind 9-11.

Sad, but true. Repeat a lie long enough, and well, you know the rest.

[RaleighNCDUer]

9. I would be very curious to learn just how ACORN stole the election.

Did ACORN own the voting machine companies? Is there any evidence of ballot stuffing? Did all the ACORN members register in multiple precincts so they could vote many times? Did ACORN control the vote count, so they could throw away Republican votes?

What mechanism did they use? I'd LOVE to know.

And if you (Hoffman, et al) can't tell HOW they did it, shut the fuck up.

[JHB]

17. Apparently a majority of Republicans are on acid...

...so mechanism just doesn't matter.

[zogofzorkon]

41. Somehow I cannot picture Republicans as disciples of Leary

or riders on the magic bus. Meth and heavy drinking maybe.

[JHB]

57. Leary never entered my mind.

Sam Kinnison did:

(at a scream)
"YOU WERE ON ACID, MANSON, IT'S A FUCKING ALBUM!!!"
"YOU WOULD HAVE HEARD THE SAME SHIT LISTENING TO THE MONKEES!!! AND THEY WEREN'T EVEN A REAL GROUP, YOU FUCK!!!"
"IT'S A FUCKING ALBUM!!!"

[louis-t]

40. Did they write the secret software?

Did the owners of voting machine companies promise they would "deliver their states" for Obama? Did ACORN register voters and then throw away the Republican ones?

[drm604]

51. They had their pimps go out and bribe election officials with free hookers!

Haven't you been following the news?

[JHB]

10. If my Irony Meter hadn't busted ages ago...

...it'd be busting now.

To think that when I was a teenager this same sort scolded me for "living in a fantasy world" because I played Dungeons & Dragons.

How many of these people even heard of ACORN before the Rethugs started using them as a punching bag (at the national level, anyway) about 3 years ago?

[L. Coyote]

36. How time flies. Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH, Prisoner No. 28882-016) is out of jail.

More like 4.5 years ago, while covering up the Ohio election theft.

ACVR's OHIO Report, Rep. Bob Ney (R-OH, Prisoner No. 28882-016)

OHIO ELECTION ACTIVITIES AND OBSERVATIONS
Report to the United States House of Representatives
Committee on House Administration, Representative Robert W. Ney, Chairman
Submitted by The American Center for Voting Rights, March 21, 2005
http://web.archive.org/web/20060209215847/www.ac4vr.com/reports/032405/OhioElectionReport.pdf

An old schoolboy trick, if you think you have been caught doing something wrong, better point the finger somewhere ............

[baldguy]

11. Right. A few volunteers in a handful of counties working for a single non-profit agency

are more powerful & deliver more fraudulent votes than the only three voting machine suppliers - which are controlled by Republicans, two Republican Secretaries-of-State, and three-Republican leaning broadcast networks combined.

[rucky]

13. The mighty and all-powerful ACORN strikes again!

funny, when I was active in ACORN we were busting ass to get $10 donations out of people.

[Walk away]

14. Acorn has 700 full time people nation wide.

That includes office works, tech people etc. That's 14 people per state and they have plenty of other work besides registering voters. Even if these registrations weren't completely vetted before a person received a VRC and could vote, it's moronic. So what else is new and who cares what they think.

[JanusAscending]

15. Didn't even bother to read the whole thing.....

but...:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: Good example of the "pot calling the kettle black"!!!!!

[byronius]

24. Except our kettle is actually quite shiny.

And that corroded old pot is simmering with toxic death.

[katkat]

16. t-shirts?

Should we get t-shirts made up? I Am ACORN, fear me

Sounds good, right? Maybe we can set ACORN to work on some Congressional races.

[GreenTea]

18. Ask them exactly how did ACORN steal it & the stupid republican fuckers couldn't tell you!

Liars, sour grapes, fools, Fox robots and slimy republican sheep...uninformed morons...ignorant republican zombies!

[intheflow]

19. Title correction: Majority of Republicans *polled* think Obama didn't win...

Although the polling company claims this was a national poll, I can't find any indication of how large a sample was polled. If it's 100 people, 25 from Florida, 25 from New Hampshire, 25 from Utah, and 25 from Arizona, they could truthfully claim it was a national poll, but the results would still be grossly skewed even if they didn't offer up a totally leading question.

Here is the polling company's press release with results: http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/PPP_Release_National_1119.pdf

[Fly by night]

20. Well since far-left Democrats own all the voting machine companies, of course we did.

Oops, my mistake.

All voting machine companies are owned by far-reich-wing, Dominionist Rethugligans.

But of course they wouldn't conceive of tampering with elections, even though they can do so without detection.

Right.

[superconnected]

21. When we get health care for all, are they going to finally get the psychiatric treatment they need?

[MoonlitwingsX]

23. what, you didn't know?

ACORN is Obama's secret army, akin to Mussolini's blackshirts and Hitler's brownshirts! Every piece of legislation that helps the people are all building blocks to his Socialist Communist Fascist Nazi regime! We shall rue the day when Herr Chairman, Dear Leader and our Celestial Father, Ba***k O***a (we are unworthy to even see his name, let alone type it!!) marches down the street with the People's Heavenly Army of ACORN, clothed in beautiful Soviet uniform of a once great Soviet regime, armed with Mosin-Nagant rifles as they take back what belongs to The People!

:rofl:

Republican stupidity doesn't surprise me one bit.

[Froward69]

25. Selected or elected...

... and they call us crazy for feeling Bush was selected in 2000.

when it comes to crazy republicans take the cake.

[joeglow3]

26. 9% of Demcorats think ACORN stole it?

Where do they find these mouth breathing idiots for their surveys?

[Ter]

31. Morons

:)

[yurbud]

27. how exactly would ACORN steal an election? are secretaries of state actually their moles?

[emulatorloo]

28. Are these republicans stupid or crazy? How the hell could ACORN steal the election

IDIOCY>

[L. Coyote]

32. Simple, Jive F. Turkey, Sr. and a lot of his co-conspirators simply

register to vote in every precinct in America, and then they mass produce Jive F. Turkey, Sr. ID's and go to every precinct to vote about six million times. :rofl:

That’s MISTER Jive F. Turkey to you!
http://www.texasrainmaker.com/2005/03/23/111162339524560782/ = Leave a comment

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[frylock]

50. now lou, nobody called anybody a j.t.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1sUvvGdNi9c&feature=related

[xxqqqzme]

30. I had no idea ACORN was so powerful.

Do you think they can get rid of stooo-pak in 2010? Do they take suggestions?

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[GinaMaria]

34. No Duh.. everyone knows ACORN went to the Supreme Court

to have Obama installed as pres..... wait no, I think that was someone else.

[defendandprotect]

35. ...and they've probably never had second thoughts about 2000!!

The right wing mind is laden with paranoia -- and blind spots!

Presumably it was a landslide for Obama . . . but we'll ever really know!

[AndyA]

38. Well, we KNOW Bush didn't win the 2000 election, the SCOTUS stole it for him.

But that's not the same thing. Not at all. :eyes:

[Dont_Bogart_the_Pretzel]

39. I guess they forgot about Bush's ties with Diebold.

[Cha]

42. They watch fauxsn00ze..wtf does anyone expect of

"the least informed Americans"?

[truthisfreedom]

43. Has anyone been asked how Acorn managed to steal it?

By what mechanism their few fake signups managed to somehow become real, appear on voter rolls, and actually walk in and vote?

Why is it that the Democrats have professors, scientists, and insiders reveal the way voting machines can give us a chimp as a president, but rethugs have nothing but crazed paranoia and nothing to substantiate it?

[Bitwit1234]

45. They ought to know about STOLEN ELECTIONS

Bush had two of them. One in Florida and one in Ohio.

[impik]

46. The Right and the Left will take Obama down in 2012

I hope everybody gonna be happy.

[Crzyrussell]

48. Who cares?

People still claim that bush stole the election.... now the shoe is on the other foot.

[RaleighNCDUer]

54. The difference is, the republican fraud can be proved and demonstrated,

and some of the fraudsters went to jail (though not enough of them). HOW did ACORN do it? Got ANY proof? ANY evidence? Even ANY guess? Did ACORN have access to any voting machines? Did ACORN count the votes? Has any ACORN member been charges with so much as being registered in two different precincts at the same time (as Ann Coulter was)?

[superconnected]

56. But bush actually did steal the election.

[laughingliberal]

64. I don't care cause I might have pizza, today nt

[last_texas_dem]

49. That's pathetic (pathetically stupid)

What's more pathetic is that it's apparently easier to convince Republicans of this kind of bullshit than to get the majority of Democrats to even pay attention to the theft that *did* take place in 2000. I don't remember seeing *any* polls where that high of a percentage of Democrats acknowledged *'s illegitimacy.

[depakid]

55. It's not even plausible!

Which makes it just bizarre.

Major segments of the American population are collectively delusional.

[damntexdem]

52. Well, they think that having African American votes means an election is stolen.

Just common garden-variety racism at work here.

[santamargarita]

58. When Shitbag Bush actually steals 2 elections it's OK

What a bunch of goddamn fucking idiots!

[LuckyLib]

59. Rewriting history already. The Repugs are working overtime. Creating their own reality.

[LynnTheDem]

60. It just can't be easy being as dumb as a republican.

Poor things.

[OnionPatch]

62. Who cares what they think? I couldn't care less.

They live in a fantasy world, anyway, what makes this any different? They don't believe in global warming or evolution, a large part of them think they're going to float up into the sky someday.....what's the big story here?

[Odin2005]

63. The lunatics are running the asylum.

[jpak]

65. Dingos ate me baby!!!!

:rofl:

[samsingh]

67. repugs are incredibly stupid and hypocritical

many brag about how they actually did steal the elections in 2000 and 2004