(ABC News) EXCLUSIVE: CIA Secret 'Torture' Prison Found at Fancy Horseback Riding Academy

[sabra]

Source: ABC News

ABC News Finds the Location of a "Black Site" for Alleged Terrorists in Lithuania

The CIA built one of its secret European prisons inside an exclusive riding academy outside Vilnius, Lithuania, a current Lithuanian government official and a former U.S. intelligence official told ABC News this week.

Where affluent Lithuanians once rode show horses and sipped coffee at a café, the CIA installed a concrete structure where it could use harsh tactics to interrogate up to eight suspected al-Qaeda terrorists at a time. A full report on the can be seen on ABC's World News with Charles Gibson tonight.

"The activities in that prison were illegal," said human rights researcher John Sifton. "They included various forms of torture, including sleep deprivation, forced standing, painful stress positions."

Lithuanian officials provided ABC News with the documents of what they called a CIA front company, Elite, LLC, which purchased the property and built the "black site" in 2004.

Lithuania agreed to allow the CIA prison after President George W. Bush visited the country in 2002 and pledged support for Lithuania's efforts to join NATO.

"The new members of NATO were so grateful for the U.S. role in getting them into that organization that they would do anything the U.S. asked for during that period," said former White House counterterrorism czar Richard Clarke, now an ABC News consultant. "They were eager to please and eager to be cooperative on security and on intelligence matters."

Read more: http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/cia-secret-prison-found/story?id=9115978

[gateley]

1. Disgusting. nt

[Christa]

2. Sick

:cry:

[Downwinder]

3. Is George accepting donations for a recreation at his library site? n/t

[Hulk]

4. Knowing Lithuania's history...this is no surprise.

I visited Lithuania and Latvia a couple years back. I would HIGHLY recommend a visit to anyone. Their history is so horrid and filled with rape, plunder and pillage. They have the "Occupation Museum" in Vilnius, I believe it is. Totally shocking what those people have been through.

The site where thousands of Jews were marched to their death, and the open pits are still there as a shrine to the torrid horror that took place in that land.

Yes....fitting that w would chose this as a place for continued torture. I wish he would get some of his own medicine.....he and that disgusting pig darth and his family. Disgusting human filth.

[Rhiannon12866]

5. K&R. Jesus. What more is there?

Something tells me that this is just another tip of a huge iceberg... :scared: :-(

[Rosa Luxemburg]

28. Why aren't Bush and Cheney in jail?

[Rhiannon12866]

31. That is the question that should be on the lips of every citizen in this country...

And our traditional allies weren't too thrilled with them, either... :grr:

[Rosa Luxemburg]

32. so what is stopping it?

[Rhiannon12866]

34. Good question. This administration because they don't want to "look back?"

Canada and Spain are on board. But the US should be leading the effort. :-(

[Rosa Luxemburg]

36. they could create a special department

[Rhiannon12866]

37. But who is "they?"

Nobody wants to be seen leading this effort, more's the pity. :-(

[WriteDown]

6. Who was running it? Auric Goldfinger? nt

[Captain Hilts]

8. THAT is exactly what I was thinking!

Next stop, Vilnius...

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_IH9A-1Sbod8/SZJqj_mEjuI/AAAAAAAAEJU/q05e3-nDqPo/s400/pussy+galore.jpg

[librechik]

9. dang, you beat me to it--except I was going to say Pussy Galore

and somebody downthread put her pic up!

[Raster]

16. "No Mr. Bond, I expect you to die."

[ixion]

7. "where it could use 'harsh tactics'" == where they could TORTURE

say the word, damnit!

[Krashkopf]

14. +1

Here's how it should have read:

"the CIA installed a concrete structure where it could torture up to eight suspected al-Qaeda terrorists at a time."

The truth hurts, but we can never recover our humanity, let alone regain the moral highground, until we face it, and hold the torturers, and the torture planners, accountable.

[katty]

10. there's always more, and more and more....

[cali]

11. Vile. There aren't words strong enough.

[Mari333]

12. Thats YOUR tax dollars folks

gonna see an investigation? see anyone held accountable? dont hold your breath.

[KingBob]

13. At work?

IMO, it's our tax dollars hardly at work.

[mbperrin]

23. I'm not holding my breath, but HELL YEAH! I'd like to see accountability.

Prison? Hanging? Please?

[Solly Mack]

15. K&R

from august 2009

http://i.abcnews.com/Blotter/story?id=8373807

"Irresponsible" To Identify Secret Sites, Says CIA; Lithuania Denies Allegation
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4024407&mesg_id=4024407

Oct 2009
Lithuanian President Announces Investigation into CIA Secret Prison

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=102&topic_id=4112522&mesg_id=4112522

[boppers]

17. "forced standing"?

Maybe I grew up differently than other people (actually, I'm pretty sure I did), but...standing?

Don't we do this to our own soldiers?

Is it torture there, too?

[Judi Lynn]

18. Don't try to mock the seriousness of the charges. They wouldn't bother to mention something trivial.

Try to find out more about the subject first then treat everyone to your opinion.

Why bother to quarrel with every article? Pick your battles wisely or risk sounding stupid.

[boppers]

19. I was beaten as a child for not standing "properly".

I am not mocking the seriousness, I am asking about the relativeness.

I'm willing to risk sounding stupid, but also know that I'm an outlier.

[no limit]

21. Lets force you to stand for a few days and see how serious such a thing is.

[boppers]

38. Thanks for the explanation.

A few hours is easy, a few days is a tad harder.

[TheMadMonk]

22. Have a friend choose a posture for you to stand in. Now hold it exactly...

...for several hours. Have that friend use a night stick to knock your limbs back into position whenever you deviate from the prescribed position. You should soon get the idea.

[jsamuel]

27. forced standing for many hours or days

means you can't sleep

if you do, you fall flat on your face with no protection, which could cause serious injury

I am sure there is also intense paid in the legs and back.

[Festivito]

20. Notice the article writer chose three examples, no more.

"including..." then only three examples, examples that don't sound that awful when written.

Some examples are reported as being raping the children of the tortured. So far, the pictures are being held against court order by Obama's request not to release whatever those new pictures will tell with indelible clarity.

[Crowman1979]

24. All the more reason to disband NATO!

[New Dawn]

35. +1

[Blue_Tires]

25. probably much more where those came from....

[Soylent Brice]

26. K&R

i don't even know what to say about this anymore.

[winyanstaz]

29. So why is there still a cia when they are doing illegal things?

[Overseas]

30. K&R to highlight more of the Bush Gang's legacy. //nt

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