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Newsjock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:36 PM
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Calif. requires TVs to be more energy efficient
Source: Associated Press

Power-hungry TVs will be banned from store shelves in California after state regulators Wednesday adopted a first-in-the-nation mandate to reduce electricity demand.

On a unanimous vote, the California Energy Commission required all new televisions up to 58 inches to be more energy efficient, beginning in 2011. The requirement will be tougher in 2013, with only a quarter of all TVs currently on the market meeting that standard.

The commission estimates that TVs account for about 10 percent of a home's electricity use. The concern is that the energy draw will rise by as much as 8 percent a year as consumers buy larger televisions, add more to their homes and watch them longer.

... Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger praised the commission's action as another signal of California's leadership on environmental matters.

Read more: http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/n/a/2009/11/18/financial/f011205S05.DTL&tsp=1
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truebrit71 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:38 PM
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1. I know how to do that for free. Turn the bloody thing off and read a book...
...
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elocs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:42 PM
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3. Well, it's all about choice and feeling self righteous.
I know some Pentecostals who feel particularly self righteous because they do not believe in watching tv. Don't they make strange bedfellows with some Liberals who also feel self righteous about not watching tv.
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Arctic Dave Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:49 PM
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6. Yes, it's all about feeling self righteous. That is until they all lose power due to lack of energy.
Oh, and that pesky enviromental issues, I mean, how dumb.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:43 PM
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4. Do books come in 1080P yet? nt
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:05 PM
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12. that won't help
you have to unplug them, they draw power constantly so they are 'instant on'

that being said, my hubby LURVES his 40-50-60 whatever flat screen and that's the one fight I always lose, I want to put it on a power strip, he swears it will kill the TV 20 times faster to starve the board for power

:shrug:
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Robb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:32 PM
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15. OT solution for ya
...I think "Monster," the company that makes those gigantic speaker cables, makes an auto-switching power strip just for expensive televisions, promises not to hurt them and switches off other A/V stuff (DVD player, cable box etc.) when it senses the TV is off. No affiliation with the product, but I seem to recall my brother-in-law has one and swears by it.
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NMDemDist2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 06:55 PM
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18. sweet!! thanks for the recomendation
I swear this tv/surround sound/dvr system is cosing us $30 a month

:yourock:
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brendan120678 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:41 PM
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2. Why don't they just decree that by the year 2015...
all electrical appliances have to run on human mind power alone?
You know - hook up some kind of brain-wave power harness whenever you want to watch TV, or run the washer, or power-up your computer?

That's a sure way to reduce electricity demand!
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The2ndWheel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:45 PM
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5. Increasing efficiency is not decreasing demand
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:51 PM
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7. Yet another brain-dead move by the idiots in Excremento
People who really want the big TVs will get them by mail order, and the state will lose out on more sales tax revenue.
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Garbo 2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 01:29 PM
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14. TV's already sold now that meet the most strict future CA effiiciency stds. So stds possible to meet
and big screen TV's will still be available here in CA. These "brain-dead" regs were developed in public hearings with input from the public, consumer, environmental and industry groups and also with the support of some manufacturers.

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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:32 PM
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16. People who want plasma or other less efficient sets will simply buy them in other states
In person or through Internet or mail order.

This kind of policy cannot work as planned unless it is implemented at the federal level. As it stands, it will just hurt California's economy.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:55 PM
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8. Good. Those energy hogs aka plasma TVs are an abomination.
Better yet, turn the goddamned thing off and read a book or go out in that BEAUTIFUL CA weather and get some frickin' exercise.
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 03:58 PM
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9. Yeah, but I rarely see Frank Gore in beautiful 1080P resolution
run for 100 yards when I'm outside. I guess I could if he was jogging nearby. :)
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Iggo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 05:20 PM
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11. I read, I excercise, and I watch my 54" monster TV.
There's room in my life for all of it and more.

You're right about our weather, though. It's fabulous. Only about 50 degrees at sunrise lately. But the temp still flirts with 75 degrees later in the day.

B-)
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tomm2thumbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 04:13 PM
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10. 10 % of home's electricity use - wow, the computer being the other 90%
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Odin2005 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Nov-18-09 10:09 PM
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13. Wow, I see this thread has brought out the luddites.
Edited on Wed Nov-18-09 10:10 PM by Odin2005
Nothing wrong with making household electronics more energy efficient. :eyes:
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Nov-19-09 03:33 PM
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17. Making appliances more energy efficient is a very good thing
But in order to be effective it has to be handled at the federal level.
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