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Renew Deal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:18 AM
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US reports largest mumps outbreak in 3 years
Source: AP

ATLANTA — U.S. health officials say the largest U.S. outbreak of mumps in three years is occurring in New York and New Jersey.

About 180 cases were identified in those two states from the time an investigation began in August through the end of October. Another 15 cases tied to the same outbreak have been reported in Canada. Three people have been hospitalized but no deaths were reported.

The U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention said the outbreak was first reported at a boys camp in Sullivan County, N.Y. It may have been triggered by an 11-year-old boy from the United Kingdom, where an ongoing mumps outbreak has sickened about 4,000.

Mumps is spread by coughing and sneezing with the most common symptoms being fever, headache and swollen salivary glands under the jaw. It sometimes lead to serious problems such as hearing loss, meningitis and fertility-diminishing swollen testicles.

Read more: http://www.google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5hWyGhtbrhcNIZ1HGUatrSOqzmtiAD9BU9PE01



Aren't people vaccinated for this?
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:24 AM
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1. Many illegal immigrants are not vaccinated and there are always..
the anti-vaxers.
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Crowman1979 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:32 AM
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7. You mean the Alex Jones fans?
THERE'S MERCURY IN THE VACCINES! BOOGA-BOOGA-BOOGA! :sarcasm:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:42 AM
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8. But ionic silver can protect you.
:)
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:27 AM
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2. Interesting. I had swollen glands on and off for a couple weeks in October.
Could just be a coincidence.

:shrug:
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WriteDown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:35 AM
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3. More likely tonsilitis.
But anything is possible.
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rfranklin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:41 AM
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4. Were your testicles swollen?
That's another symptom.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 10:43 AM
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5. Thankfully, no. My salivary glands were, and my right tonsil.
It's always the right one.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:30 AM
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6. Lay this one at Andrew Wakefield's feet
He was the author of a fraudulent study in the UK linking the MMR vaccine with autism, thus sparking a huge vaccination scare, which unfortunately convinced a lot of well-meaning parents to not vaccinate their kids. This of course led to an increase in measles, mumps and rubella.

A lot of great information on Wakefield and his fraud of a study can be found here:
http://briandeer.com/mmr-lancet.htm
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surrealAmerican Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 11:55 AM
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9. There are always some vaccinated people ...
... who are still susceptible. It's a small minority, but it happens.
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mzteris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:00 PM
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10. "Aren't people vaccinated for this?"
The ones with smart parents are.


The "anti-vax" crowd is seriously misinformed and putting not only their children in danger, but other people as well.

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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:11 PM
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11. This is just going to get worse
with so many opting out of vaccinations. Wonder when we'll see polio again?
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:19 PM
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12. "Wonder when we'll see polio again?"
Polio returns to Minnesota
17 April 2009

Poliovirus has been isolated from a patient who died last month in Minnesota. Is this incident related to the outbreak of polio in an Amish community in the same state four years ago?

More: http://www.virology.ws/2009/04/17/polio-returns-to-minnesota/
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prolesunited Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:18 PM
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17. Thanks for the info
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Posteritatis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:16 PM
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16. It makes me really, really glad that smallpox is extirpated
The idea of that making a resurgence only to get further encouraged by the antivaxxers is kind of nightmarish. Polio's bad enough, and that's reappeared in the US.
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bikebloke Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:32 PM
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13. Isn't mumps another childhood disease?
Like chicken pox (or pops, as we called it back then) and measles. I know I had the mumps, as the rest of my grade school class at the same time.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:05 PM
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15. So did I, had both back to back, but that was in 1958
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 01:07 PM by dmr
Never got to finish Kindergarten. Lost the hearing in my right ear too.

My dad walked me to the school and we stood in a very long line for the miracle (as he called it) polio vaccine.

Edit: spelling
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The Backlash Cometh Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 01:42 PM
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18. That was the sugar cube vaccine, wasn't it?
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 06:20 PM
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23. No, this was the shot, but I did get the oral vaccine (liquid) later on
and my mom took me for that, and again, in a long line at the school.
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tonysam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 06:23 PM
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24. It used to be the rule kids got the mumps, measles, and chicken pox
Edited on Mon Nov-16-09 06:24 PM by tonysam
as a rite of childhood. Now, though, there are vaccines for all three. The first two diseases are rather rare now, and chicken pox is on the way out, too. The vaccine for it has only been available for a decade or so.

I don't remember having the measles as I was too young when I had it, but I do remember getting the mumps when I was in first grade in 1961 and chicken pox when I was in seventh grade in 1968. The latter especially was a pain in the ass.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 12:44 PM
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14. Congress really fucked up with it gave Pharma special immunity from Vax lawsuits
The special immunity really plays into people's fears of vaccines and huge profit-hungry corporations who push products thru the FDA as soon as possible to boost profits.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:02 PM
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19. Not really.
The stupid people would still be worked into a froth.
The only difference would be no vaccines for *anyone* because no company would want to get sued non-stop by people that make Orly Taitz look professional. It'd be easier and more profitable for them to just not make the vaccines at all.
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PHIMG Donating Member (814 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:11 PM
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20. Well what to do with "the stupid?"
If as a public health matter you want to encourage people to do vaccines you shouldn't do anything that undermines the public's trust in them, like giving corporations "get out of jail free" cards.

People who make Orly Taitz look professional. Like Robert F. Kennedy, Jr.

You sound like you are channeling Pfizer.
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Spider Jerusalem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 02:21 PM
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21. RFK Jr is a crank and an ex-smackhead...
who has as much authority to speak on medical and scientific issues as I do about nuclear physics. The fact that his name is Kennedy doesn't give him some sort of mystical knowledge.
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JoeyT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-16-09 04:52 PM
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22. Yep!
I are teh shillz!
Last time I saw Robert F. Kennedy speaking on vaccines he most certainly *was* completely ignorant about them.
The only doctor to find a "link" between MMR vaccines and autism had a competing vaccine that couldn't be approved unless the existing one was discredited. Doubly so since his vaccine used a completely insane process that would've never worked. So yes, Orly looks mighty professional compared to a doctor that doesn't know evolutionary biology or germ theory.

So when thimerosal was removed from virtually all vaccines, the anti-vaxxers all went and got vaccinated and everyone lived happily ever after, right? Cause what I seem to remember happening was they went seamlessly from screaming about mercury to screaming about aluminum and unnamed "toxins" and "Live viruses to make you sick!" and so on. So since they claim to be anti-toxin instead of anti-vaccine, exactly what can be left in vaccines that they'll accept? The answer of course being "Not a damned thing.".

Clearly anyone that points out that the conspiracies are insane or dares to mention actual science is a representative of a guilty party. Look, absolutely no one likes pharmaceutical industries. No one. I personally loathe them for their constant pirating of public research that they alter slightly/refine and demand ridiculous sums of money for the end result. Their ability to force us to pay up or die for research that our tax dollars funded infuriates me. I just don't believe that the enemy of my enemy is my friend, nor do I believe that anything that smears someone I don't like is good. Especially given the damage those smears do.
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