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dipsydoodle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:22 PM Original message |
Key oil figures were distorted by US pressure, says whistleblower |
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onehandle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:24 PM Response to Original message |
1. Oil will not be easily replaced unless we start in earnest now. |
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ThomCat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:11 PM Response to Reply #1 |
5. You are very right. This is going to be painful. |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:47 PM Response to Reply #5 |
17. But who knows that? I mean who really knows it? |
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bhikkhu (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:22 PM Response to Reply #17 |
18. Good questions - but there is good answer |
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napoleon_in_rags (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:59 PM Response to Reply #18 |
27. That actually gives me a lot of hope. |
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zogtheobvious (119 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:51 PM Response to Reply #1 |
7. Sure, but... |
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Indenturedebtor (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:25 PM Response to Reply #7 |
14. We still need oil for fertilizers and plastics |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:34 AM Response to Reply #14 |
30. most fertilizers for crops come from natural gas... |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:56 PM Response to Reply #14 |
34. if we cut back dramatically on the oil we use for fuel, we would still have some for fertilizer |
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NickB79 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:57 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Biodegradeable plastics are produced from plants, but farmland is limited |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
38. it would be a transitional fuel. Also, you aren't taking into account algae-based |
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WriteDown (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:44 PM Response to Reply #1 |
36. Exactly right, everyone look around themselves and see how many products.... |
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WinkyDink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:48 PM Response to Original message |
2. And yet, the world's largest cruise ship was just launched. We waste fuel every second. |
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RedCloud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:56 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. And Nascar keeps right on wasting it. |
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Spider Jerusalem (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:13 PM Response to Reply #4 |
13. Pfft |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:27 AM Response to Reply #13 |
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Javaman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:41 AM Response to Reply #4 |
31. Ironically, NASCAR is probably one of the least polluting of the various |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 11:49 AM Response to Reply #2 |
32. The naval technology geek in me is itching to put a nuclear power plant in that beast... |
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BREMPRO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 06:52 PM Response to Original message |
3. this may just be a ploy to raise oil futures prices- like to see the facts. |
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Prometheus Bound (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 07:15 PM Response to Reply #3 |
6. Fact or fiction? Here they are. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:27 PM Response to Original message |
8. We've known for decades that burning fossil fuels is SUICIDE .... move on!!! |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #8 |
35. move on to another issue, or move on to actually doing something perceptible to fix it? |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:28 AM Response to Reply #35 |
40. eh . . . seems clear that we need to nationalize natural resources . . . |
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CHIMO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:31 PM Response to Original message |
9. Key oil figures were distorted by US pressure, says whistleblower |
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Xipe Totec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
10. Meanwhile, our brilliant friends at Ford launch a muscle car campaign... |
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happyslug (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:32 PM Response to Reply #10 |
16. And bring the new Ford Fiesta to the US in the summer of 2010 |
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mikekohr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:25 PM Response to Reply #16 |
19. I Owned A Ford Fiesta Back In the Late 1970's It Got 40+ MPG |
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Angry Dragon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:31 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. I guess I need to do my oil change soon then |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 08:53 PM Response to Original message |
12. K&R /eom |
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OnyxCollie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 09:30 PM Response to Original message |
15. There was a great post a few years back that hypothesized |
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Psephos (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:47 PM Response to Reply #15 |
22. you forgot the sarcasm thingie |
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Terry in Austin (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 05:35 PM Response to Reply #15 |
39. Conventional oil peaked in 2005 |
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pscot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:32 PM Response to Original message |
20. This is not news |
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Lint Head (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:42 PM Response to Original message |
21. We need to kill more dinosaurs! |
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WestSeattle2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:10 PM Response to Reply #21 |
25. LOL! Too funny. Thx for making my day. n/t |
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L0oniX (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 10:54 PM Response to Original message |
23. Knew all that long time ago. Hubberts curve ...peal oil. |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
24. "As our fifth strand, we have to wonder why the kings and nobles . . . |
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Strelnikov_ (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-09-09 11:19 PM Response to Original message |
26. Peak Oil = Peak Profits |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:31 AM Response to Reply #26 |
41. Not exactly . . . because as the oil gets more expensive - unaffordable, in fact -- |
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Igel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 10:33 AM Response to Original message |
29. Odd. |
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yurbud (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Tue Nov-10-09 12:55 PM Response to Original message |
33. letting oil companies continue to dictate our foreign and energy policy will literally kill us |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Wed Nov-11-09 02:32 AM Response to Reply #33 |
42. Nationalize our natural resources -- get it out of private hands -- |
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