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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:17 PM
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USS New York Officially Joins The Navy Fleet
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 04:24 PM by Rhiannon12866
Source: NY1 News

The ship partially forged from 7.5 tons of steel from the World Trade Center site officially became part of the Navy fleet today.

The commissioning ceremony for the USS New York on Manhattan's West Side began with a moment of silence for the victims of Thursday's shooting at Fort Hood, Texas and the September 11th terrorist attacks.

Mayor Michael Bloomberg helped set the first watch on the ship, while Governor David Paterson and former Mayor Rudy Giuliani attended.

Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, a former New York senator, said in her keynote address that the ship encompasses the durability and perseverance of those who sacrificed their lives in the September 11th terrorist attacks.

Read more: http://ny1.com/5-manhattan-news-content/top_stories/108580/uss-new-york-officially-joins-the-navy-fleet



Includes video. The ship was built in Louisiana by shipbuilders who lost everything to Hurricane Katrina and will be open to the public before leaving for its home port in Virginia on Thursday. The previous USS NY served in both World Wars and was present at Iwo Jima. Magnificent ship and quite a patriotic moment... :patriot:

Edited to add pic:

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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:23 PM
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1. Yankees win World Series to set the stage for the christening...
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 04:33 PM by SpiralHawk
Big Times for the Big Apple.

Tip O' the Cap from a Red Sox fan.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:26 PM
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2. Thanks! It looks like that's the only news story that wasn't included...
;)
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phasma ex machina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:31 PM
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3. "Strength forged through sacrifice. Never forget," nt
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:56 PM
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4. What brought down all 3 of the WTC Towers,
cause it wasn't just 2 airplanes & some fires?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:20 PM
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12. Um, "just...?"
And there were two towers, North and South. Terrorists seizing control of jumbo jets and flying them into tall buildings containing thousands of people, killing almost 4000 and changing the NY skyline forever, was a pretty monumental event in world history, no matter where in the world you're from. Because the fuel tanks were full, the fires that burned were severe enough to melt steel. This was huge, no matter what you believe... ;(
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pjt7 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:25 PM
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14. WTC7
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 07:29 PM by pjt7
doesn't make any sense.

3 steel skyskrapers, total collapse on there own structure @ free-fall speed, doesn't add up.

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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:42 PM
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16. WTC7 didn't collapse until 5:20pm.
All of the buildings surrounding the 110-story twin towers sustained severe structural damage after they collapsed. The collapse of WTC7 was anticipated and it had been evacuated. There was incredible "collateral damage" on that horrific day. ;(
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:55 PM
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20. They didn't collapse at free fall velocity!
Debris tossed out by the collapse hit the ground several seconds before the building fully collapsed. And that is proven by videos rather than crack addled delusions. Speaking of - Aren't you missing from some forum?
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:58 PM
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21. Nope, I was just answering the question.
This thread is about the commissioning of this spectacular ship. :-)
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:22 PM
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24. That reply wasn't to you. nt
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:55 AM
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39. The 2 towers collapsed at free-fall rate.
This is born out by timecodes on films and videos made the day of the tragedy. Furthermore, the debris landed neatly within the buildings footprints. Physics does not lie. Humans do, usually for gain...
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hack89 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:31 PM
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42. So why was debris falling faster than the collapse zone? nt
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:06 PM
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44. Neatly into the footprint?
Then why was debris covering the entire site?
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:50 PM
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19. The steel didn't melt - Its just gets soft like clay at high temps
And gets a lot weaker - hence the art of the Blacksmith. He heats the steel/iron till it glows red hot (but is still a solid) then pounds it into shape with a hammer. As it cools it gets harder, so he puts ii in the oven and reheats it and repeats till done.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:08 PM
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22. Okay, thanks.
I'm familiar with horses. My point was about the high temps. :-)
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:59 AM
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40. Explain
why the steel stories lower, tens of stories, also melted despite not being heated. Explain the obvious sparking of thermite charges at the corners of the buildings, the discovery of nano-thermite in the debris of the towers and the fires that raged under the structuresz for weeks. Too much to allow for the official view to be true. Question authority. BTW, less than 3,000 people were killed at the WTC.
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:05 PM
Response to Reply #40
43. Sure-
But only after you get off whatever the hell you're smoking...
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naaman fletcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:20 PM
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45. nice trick..
Explain "X,Y, and Z"

All of them are false. You come up with solid sources for each of your claims, and I will consider debunking them. dumbass.
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edwardian Donating Member (177 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:51 AM
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38. Good job
spreading the official version. It is a lie and you are doing the nation a disservice by repeating the lie. It was Goebbels who taught the world that a lie repeated often enough becomes accepted as truth. No matter what you believe....
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nuxvomica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:17 PM
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5. Here's more info on the type of ship
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 05:18 PM by nuxvomica
A "San Antonio-class amphibious transport dock"...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/USS_New_York_%28LPD-21%29
:patriot:


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Democracyinkind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:55 PM
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6. Oh, the IRONy. Sick shit. Bizarrely American.


It just sucks that I find this soooooo wrong. And nobody else does.

At least it's a transport ship, that makes it a bit more bearable.
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Duende azul Donating Member (608 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:36 PM
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25. + 1
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:03 PM
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7. the old USS New York was cool too.
Edited on Sat Nov-07-09 06:04 PM by Froward69


:patriot:
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:35 PM
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9. That she was
:patriot:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:12 PM
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10. Thanks so much for this pic!
I had intended to look it up... Wow, so much history there. My Dad was in the Navy, on the USS Ranger, aircraft carrier, and I love history, so I'm very interested in this aspect of it... :hi:
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:32 PM
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15. Funny but I found it on a republican
Blog commemorating the NEW USS New York labeled as the NEW USS New York...

:rofl: :rofl:
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:46 PM
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17. Huh? LOL...
Well, nobody ever said that the RW excelled at history, or current events. :crazy:
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pinniped Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:21 PM
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13. Speaking of old ships, the former U.S.S. Tripoli (LPH-10) is berthed at Pier 80 in San Francisco.
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liberaltrucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:33 PM
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8. Pardon me, there's something in my eye
:cry:

:patriot:
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:12 PM
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11. Actually she has been in commission for several weeks
at least. This was for a public show. She was commissioned some time back.
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:47 PM
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18. It's cool in a weird way. What would be more impressive to me
is if they used some of the steal to build infrastructure in Afghanistan. Ultimately, that sort of thing is what we are about.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:21 PM
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23. I first heard this story on CNN today.
And their story reported that a large number of those serving on this ship are from New York. I thought that it was pretty cool, too. :-)

As for Afghanistan, we don't yet know what's going to happen there... :-(
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Gore1FL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:31 AM
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32. Sadly, I don't think anyone does...
but I'd rather we sent cement, steam rollers, steel, an civil engineers than sandbags, tanks, guns, and soldiers.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 03:18 AM
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33. Me, too.
But I think that the choices are additional troops or nothing. :-(

As for the cement, steam rollers, steel and civil engineers, we could use them here. Our infrastructure is crumbling. There's a bridge just north of here that's in such bad shape that they've closed it, forcing drivers to take a 100 mile detour! But we seem to find the money to build mammoth structures in Iraq... ;(
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Oregone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:00 PM
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26. Because the US is in great need of more military vessels
And as a bonus, it has a faulty justification for perpetual war melted right on in there. Makes me wave my ol red, white and get-the-fuck-off-my-property-before-I-kill-you-taxman blue.
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 09:04 PM
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27. why couldnt they have used that steel as a memorial?
you know it has the victim's bodies in it in ashes. why a warring looking ship? I dont know, I wouldnt want my loved one's body being part of a ship unless it was a ship that promoted peace.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:35 PM
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28. I guess I didn't think of it that way...
I was thinking of it as a vessel that would be out there protecting Americans. And I found it reassuring that we now have a new ship in the fleet that's completely up to date... :-)
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:22 AM
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29. ick. That is just completely ghoulish.
It reminds me of those ads on tv advertising souvenir coins "recovered" from the World Trade Center sites.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 10:27 AM
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50. Exactly. What a horrible use of resources.
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StreetKnowledge Donating Member (921 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 12:34 AM
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30. Indeed so. And there are a lot of worse uses for steel from the Twin Towers.
And besides that, USS New York is something that benefits the Navy and the bean counters. New York and her sisters are designed to replace a substantial number of ships, thus substantially reducing the Navy's crew requirements. That's good, isn't it?

And just as an FYI, there was a USS New York between this and the WWI/WWII battleship. The previous USS New York City was a Los Angeles-class nuclear submarine, commissioned in March 1979 and decommissioned in April 1997.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 01:16 AM
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31. I agree. I thought it was one of the few good ideas...
And I didn't know that this would reduce the crews needed. Probably a good idea, too, with fewer folks signing up...

And you're right about the sub, the only naval vessel ever to be named after a city... Thanks for the info! :-)

Here she is: :thumbsup:
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:54 AM
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37. If I remember correctly of all Los Angeles class submarines
67 were named for U.S. cities and one was named for Admiral Rickover.
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 09:48 PM
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46. You're right. I misspoke.
USS New York City was the first vessel to be named after the city, and not the state, of New York. Thanks for the info... :hi:

The USS New York City:
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bigjohn16 Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 04:24 AM
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34. We can build a war ship but ground zero is still an empty hole. What a country. nt
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 02:11 PM
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41. AGREED!!!
blatant showing of misplaced priorities. there is still a hole in the heart of Manhattan.
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:16 AM
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35. namesake, NYC or state of New York? .nt
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 10:13 PM
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47. State of NY. It replaces the WWI-WWII battleship which was sunk
as a target ship in 1948. :-( The USS New York City was a nuclear submarine, the only vessel named after the city... :-)

USS New York (1914-1948):



USS New York City (1979-1997):
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excess_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 01:59 AM
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48. all the other ships in its class are cities .nt
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Rhiannon12866 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 02:23 AM
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49. Thank you!
I appreciate the information. :hi:
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Thothmes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:21 PM
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52. Except SSN 709 USS Hymen Rickover
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 05:17 AM
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36. Beautius!
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ProudDad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 12:23 PM
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51. WTF!???!!
Another POS to add to the bloated war budget...

We can spend a trillion a year on the fucking legions but we can't have Universal, Comprehensive NON-PROFIT BASED health care in the USAmerikan Empire, eh?

PISS ON ALL FLAGS!!!
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Owl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 08:01 PM
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53. Fine. Now let's cut the miliitary budget in half.
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