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mia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:37 PM
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Fort Hood shooting: Kim Munley hailed for bravery in shooting Hasan
Source: Telegraph.co.uk

Mrs Munley was one of the "first responders" who returned fire after army psychiatrist Maj. Nidal Malik Hasan went on the rampage at the sprawling Fort Hood base in Texas.

She shot Hasan four times but was herself wounded in the gun battle. Her condition is now stable, according to military officials.

The police officer has been praised for her bravery and for preventing what could have been an even worse massacre....



Read more: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/6518136/Fort-Hood-shooting-Kim-Munley-hailed-for-bravery-in-shooting-Hasan.html
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Bluebear Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Nov-06-09 11:44 PM
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1. I think that woman saved a LOT of lives through her actions.
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karmaqueen Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 12:23 AM
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2. She also saved her partner's life once!
She is from our small town here in NC. Her partner was just on talking on tv about how she came to his rescue by wrestling a big guy off of him when he was down. She is only 5'3" but a powerhouse! She did save a lot of people by her actions. I will send her my wish for her speedy recovery and my thanks.
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rollin74 Donating Member (489 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 01:41 AM
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3. I hope she fully recovers from her injuries
her actions were truly heroic
:thumbsup:
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rasputin1952 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:16 AM
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4. She is the classic hero...
first on the scene, took action and stopped the carnage.

May her recovery be speedy and complete...:patriot:

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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:40 AM
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5.  I'm sorry she got wounded but I'm grateful she was on the scene.
She saved lives.
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Gin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:09 AM
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6. her partner was on CNN and he said he shot Hasan....that she was on
the other side of the building...wounded...and that he shot Hasan....frankly..I'm just glad someone shot the basturd.
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FarCenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:57 AM
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10. She may have shot Hasan first, but apparently did not finsh him
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/33738752/ns/us_news-washington_post/

Munley, who had been taking her patrol car in for maintenance, was the first armed police officer to arrive at the readiness center. For the first few minutes, she was the only person other than Hasan who had a gun. "She was a single patrol officer," said Medley, her supervisor.

The details of what happened are still unclear. Munley's supervisor said she and Hasan shot each other at nearly the same moment. Another officer at the scene recalled that Hasan paused to reload his pistols just seconds after unloading his weapon into Munley.

"He's reloading! He's reloading!" screamed a soldier hiding behind a vehicle.

As Hasan fumbled with the magazines, another police officer, who had arrived on the scene just minutes after Munley, fired his weapon and felled Hasan, said the soldier, who was crouching in the parking lot.

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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:25 PM
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17. In some ways I'm glad she didn't kill him
because now we get to figure out what was going on in his head, and the state gets to punish him (I always feel like the criminal got away with it if they die by their own hands or in the course of the crime rather than being tried and sentenced).

On the other hand the trial is no doubt going to be a circus and we might have been better off just ending it that day.
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:35 PM
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20. It happened in Texas. He'll be executed for sure.
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KathyTeaches Donating Member (6 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 09:07 AM
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25. Well, Texas has nothing to do with
He's a military officer who committed a crime on a military base. He will be tired, and if found guilty, most likely executed by the military, not the state of Texas.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 02:52 PM
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26. Federal/military issue
not state.
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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:06 PM
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24. They will have to check the bullets to figure out who actually
shot him.
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Honeycombe8 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:41 AM
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7. Oh, but WOMEN shouldn't be police officers! (remember that one?)
Remember Coulter all over TV saying that women shouldn't be police officers, after the female cop was overtaken by a prisoner, who escaped? THEN, barely 2 months later, the same thing happened again elsewhere, only that time it was a MALE police officer. Coulter was nowhere on TV saying that MEN shouldn't be police officers. Just the sounds of crickets.

In the first instance, it wasn't even the officer's fault. That enforcement facility hadn't followed common sense rules and regs in having TWO officers escort a violent criminal. (altho she'd made the mistake of hanging her gun up on the wall, which the male prisoner then snatched after knocking the officer down.)

So, Ms. Coulter...what do you have to say about THIS female officer? Do you think any of the soldiers in that vicinity wishes she hadn't been there at that time in an officer's uniform, Hmmmmmmm?
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zonkers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:52 AM
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9. You sure are fired up and eady to go this morning!! Good on ya!
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Bigmack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 10:49 AM
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8. Big. Brass. Balls. nt
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tabasco Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 04:42 PM
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11. Well done, Mrs. Munley! n/t
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 05:54 PM
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12. But guns can never be used to stop a criminal
surely the article is in error. Guns only kill innocent people. Attempting to use them against criminals will only result in the weapon being taken away and used on you.
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Paladin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:37 PM
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14. Give It A Rest...... (n/t)
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 07:59 PM
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15. Who are you
and why are you following me?
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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 06:36 PM
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21. Idiot. Guns killed 13 innocent people in this case.
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Pavulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:09 PM
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23. All by their lonesome..
like my car will kill someone if I get all drunk and go driving. Damn those guns to hell. A cowardly asshole is responsible here, his method is irrelevant.
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JonQ Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 02:57 PM
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27. In the hands of a trained professional
isn't the usual grabber argument to take guns away from civilians, leaving them only for the police and military. How would that have prevented this? Unless you think our military should be disarmed, which is of course a moronic notion.
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mstinamotorcity Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 06:06 PM
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13. Ms Munley
Wishing you a speedy recovery. Sorry you had to draw your gun but if you didn't we may have lost more lives hope you get better soon. Hey it is what it is.
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Milspec Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Nov-07-09 08:08 PM
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16. Thanks Ms Munley
Saved lives there.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 08:38 AM
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18. May not be entirely true. The most recent story told by her partner
is that he shot the gunmen, but was unsure if Munley had also hit him.

Excerpt:

Civilian officers Kimberly Munley and Mark Todd arrived minutes later. They found the shooter outside, standing about 15 yards away, calmly firing at people as they ran.

"I yelled at him, 'Stop! Drop the weapon!' And that's when he raised his weapon and fired a couple of shots at me," Todd told CNN.

Munley and Todd took cover, the gunman walked behind a building, and the two officers apparently became separated. Todd said he went around the other side of building and exchanged gunfire with the shooter, who flinched, slid down against a telephone pole and fell onto his back.

The confrontation was over in less than a minute, Todd estimated. By then, Munley was down with gunshot wounds to both legs and a wrist. Todd said he did not know whether his fellow officer had wounded the shooter; earlier reports had Munley and the gunman wounding each other in an exchange of gunfire.

http://www.statesman.com/news/content/news/stories/local/2009/11/08/1108hoodtime.html


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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 09:23 AM
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19. according to eye witness he had to be told to shoot him
"After he shot the female police officer he was fumbling his reload and I saw the other police officer around the corner and yelled at him to come shoot the shooter. He did. Then I used my belt as a tourniquet on the female officer."
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2009/11/fort-hood-letter

If this is true, not only did he have to be told to shoot the shooter, he didn't go to the aid of his shot partner either. In my book, whether she shot the shooter or not, she was the hero in this.

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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-08-09 07:04 PM
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22. The confrontation was over in less than a minute.
Edited on Sun Nov-08-09 08:02 PM by LisaL
I don't understand what you are blaming this guy for.
If he is the one who shot the suspect in the end, then he saved many lives. I am also not sure if Kim Munley was his partner. According to other reports they arrived at the scene separately.
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TorchTheWitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 06:31 PM
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30. I'm not blaming him for anything
I'm pointing out the difference in his account and the eyewitnesses account. Sgt. Todd doesn't mention that he never fired until this eyewitness said to and he does say that instead of engaging the shooter he called out to him to drop his weapon and doesn't fire at him until Hasan fired at him. The post I was replying to originally made it appear that Todd was the bigger hero in this, and I don't see it that way. You and anyone else can see it however the hell you like. I don't care if Todd or Munley or both shot the guy or if they're partners or not. I am seeing a disparity in which of them acted more heroicly and it's my opinion that she did and even more so if the eyewitness account is true. The post I originally replied to made it appear that Munley was being hailed as a hero unjustly, and I don't see it that way at all whether she got any bullets in the nutter or not.



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LisaL Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 07:47 PM
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31. He is a civilian police officer. I am pretty sure they are trained
not to shoot first.
Sounds like he was following procedure.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:06 PM
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29. Sounds like they were working as a team. They BOTH acted courageously, imo.
I don't see a competition here.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-09-09 03:04 PM
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28. Regardless who felled the shooter, both of these cops acted courageously
I have nothing but respect for the two officers who engaged in fire with the shooter.

I wonder what military commendation is appropriate to award for civilian heroism?
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